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Fable 2: Sex, Children and Dogs.
Woodroez
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Two (or more) of which will hopefully be able to be combined.
So yeah, front page news: Peter Molyneux claims Fable 2 will take the relationship aspect of the original game further, allowing for the possibility to procreate. Naturally, you can be the father, but it will be interesting to see how being a mother works. Also, you get a dog. It suggests what you should do, and should the need arise, will pester El Gigante.
He also mentions the presence of GUNS in the game. Guns that shoot.
So...thoughts? Do you think Molyneux and his team can really pull all this off? How will guns affect gameplay? If you knock up the waitress at the bar, will the little bastard be able to put a good head of foam on your beer when he pours it? Discuss!
UPDATE: Fable 2 Gametrailers page ...Featuring dog demonstration, also combat
So yeah, front page news: Peter Molyneux claims Fable 2 will take the relationship aspect of the original game further, allowing for the possibility to procreate. Naturally, you can be the father, but it will be interesting to see how being a mother works. Also, you get a dog. It suggests what you should do, and should the need arise, will pester El Gigante.
He also mentions the presence of GUNS in the game. Guns that shoot.
So...thoughts? Do you think Molyneux and his team can really pull all this off? How will guns affect gameplay? If you knock up the waitress at the bar, will the little bastard be able to put a good head of foam on your beer when he pours it? Discuss!
UPDATE: Fable 2 Gametrailers page ...Featuring dog demonstration, also combat
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I hope something is said about it at GDC. We haven't heard anything really.
Ok, pup, I want to check my map so, ok, stop. No. Do not go over there and sniff that other dog, bad dog! Bad! DO NOT RUN AFTER THAT RABBIT, NO, COME BACK!
We've heard this before.
Color me skeptical.
edit - wait, no map?!
Oh... no.
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I miss when Gabe put more effort into his comics.
Molyneaux: "Oh, and we have a new feature for Fable 3. Your character can now TRIP and FALL DOWN, thereby stubbing his toe. He will actually start swearing and jumping up and down holding his hurt foot. You will see this throughout the game following, with your character putting less pressure down on his hurt toe."
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Plus my guy was 12 different flavors of HAWT. Sadly he got horribly scarred up because I never let him wear a shirt. That'll teach me to be dirty perv.
At least I see now why the straight boys likes them the bouncy jubblies in their fighting games.
actually, last i'd heard, they spent a long, long time 'experimenting' with all their ideas, finding what worked and what didn't, and then building them into the game. It was some interview with him where he said they didn't want to talk about stuff and then have to cut it, so instead, they took their time at the start testing all sorts of crazy ideas and things, and refining the best.
I'm one of the first people to go "wtf?" when some idea that i'm not familiar with is announced, and can't see how it's going to work. In this case though, i'm honestly interested to see what they mean, and how it works, before i write it off.
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A dog as the user interface. What. The. Fuck. If that's half as gimmicky and saccharine as it sounds... just. What? I can't even type anymore. My head hurts. WHAT?!
Seriously, a little focus. Fable could make a decent RPG without becoming an in-depth life simulator. I'd much rather adventure about than have to worry about a dog, a brat and a wife. RAWR.
EDIT - Or maybe the dog could get evil points...
The dog as the UI is a bad idea. No map? Even that long ago people knew how to make a god damn map.
I was lucky with Fable, I suppose, as I didn't buy into the hype (aka lies) for a second. Fable: The Lost Chapters was a basic but enjoyable action RPG, and I could live with that because I wasn't expecting the next coming of Pixelchrist.
Both Fable and Jade Empire strike me as extremely similar games, and they're both quite playable. But while Bioware's next console project is freaking Mass Effect, Molyneux wants to simulate pregnancy and the angst of anyone who's ever tried to get a dog to do something important.
See, that's also what the breathing mic could be for. You know how much you swear in real life when you, you know, try and get a dog to tell you your mission objectives for the day, or to select an alternate fighting style to avoid the muggers gang-stabbing you?
I'll bet you that the dog morphs with alignment
...in fact, why have an animal-based UI in the first place? Are enemies going to be able to cripple my mighty hero by kidnapping/eating/molesting my loyal canine companion? Or is he going to be magically invincible during chaotic battles?
You need them for cover. And decoys.
Because 9% think it's too high, and shouldn't be cut! 9% of respondents could not fully
get their arms around the question. There should be another box you can check for, "I
have utterly no idea what you're talking about. Please, God, don't ask for my input."
maybe it barks, and shoots bees out of its mouth. Maybe it only has three legs. Maybe it's got a frickin' laser gun attached to its head.
we don't know, people, stop acting like the world is ending because things in a game haven't been fully explained yet
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I don't get it.
Is your dog like that Navi idiot, or something?
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Hey, I'm fully aware the world will carry on regardless of Molyneux's current design concepts, it just seems a thoroughly weird thing to "reveal" when no more information is forthcoming- besides, speculating on things which (probably) haven't been finalised yet is an Intarweb tradition. But heh, I was kind of hoping your reply was going to say something like "look, Ed, Molyneux explained it before this story was even announced, jeez, relax, the dog is just a metaphor for a cursor or something [have a link]". No such luck.
i know it's a tradition, i'm just trying to counter all the serious drama-queen bitchery that happens whenever something Molyneux's working on is announced. He himself has acknowledged that his own personal hype for things is his biggest downfall, and apologised for this in the past. For Fable 2, as i'd said before, they made sure to spend their time testing everything first, seeing if it worked, how it worked, and if it could work in the game. Then started making the game. While this dog thing is a completely new concept to me, i'm assuming that's mostly because they've been saying nothing about Fable 2, at all. This is like, the first actual news we've had about it. It's weird, it's unusual, and it may well not work. But people are jumping on it like it's going to ruin the game, it can't possibly work, and it's all just going to fall apart. I know as little as you guys do, so i can't vouch for anything different. But like i said, i'm always one to go "wait, that's stupid, you're stupid, stop doing stupid things" when i read an idea i don't understand. Then i'll play it and go "oh, right.. that actually works really well, good show!". In this case, i want to know more, but i'm interested to see if/how it works.
edit: personally, i don't think it'll be a cursor or something like that. But probably something like the appearance and activities of the dog represent your own status or something. Rather than having bars and meters across the screen, it'll be reflected in the dog somehow instead.
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Ah, fair enough. Damn you for being reasonable and articulate.
I don't usually buy into the Molyneux-bashing (every goddamn dev drops some feature once in a while, it's just that Pete dropped enough to be called out on it) but this one just made me flip, especially after that interview where he admitted he needed to be more transparent about game dynamics. Honestly, I half thought the GUI dog was a joke!
Granted it'll almost certainly go beyond the exaggerated scenarios I've outlined, but I have to admit it sounds a bit... odd, as is.
I'm just a big dissappointed fanboy at heart, I'm afraid. I'm actually cautiously optimistic about Fable 2: I'm just getting angsty because I'm concerned it'll get screwed up by strange gimmicks- or the lack of strange gimmicks which put a lot of people off the original. I guess the poor bugger can't win, can he?
EDIT:
Hey, those hacks know nothing about knee-jerk reactions and overblown prose. We're the fucking kings of game-whining. GTFO!
I hope that was sarcasm when you said that that one involved more effort.
Sarcasm is so hard to read over the internet.
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It's only £15 for the PC, actually. I might pick it up.
If it does, then the good dog had better be as cool-looking as the evil dog. I don't want a repeat of my Black and White creature - that wolf was pink, for Christ's sake.
Physical morphing which affected the way that you used the dog would be quite cool - keep it leashed up to stunt its growth and make it able to sneak around for you, or boost it into a mount. I want to be riding around on either a great dane or a chihuahua strapped to each foot.
On the whole, I'm not a fan initially of the whole dog idea, but I'm not going to shit all over the idea until it's explained more fully. Until then, I'll entertain ideas of having a beast of burden/weapon/secondary spell caster/food source walking around with me.
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On reflection, I don't think that I need to worry about what the good form of the dog will look like.
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