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[Shadowrun3] [Session 3 7/28] Stealing magical prototypes for fun and profit

piLpiL Registered User regular
edited August 2009 in Critical Failures
"The past is past, the future unformed. There is only the moment, and that is where he prefers to be." -William Gibson
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This thread is an interest-check for a game of Shadowrun, third edition. Given the interest I've seen in Shadowrun before, I think it should work. First thing's first, I plan to run this game, via irc, from 6pm EST to 10pm EST on TuesdaysThis is the new time, is this good?. We can discuss this a bit, but that's about the timeframe I'm looking for. If you cannot make that time, fret not and read on! Alternate participation details will follow.

Shadowrun is a pen-and-paper role-playing game set in the middle of the twenty-first century. The world is controlled by corporate interest, and the return of magic has altered the world forever.
Game Structure
The game will have three major sections.

The IRC session - Probably considered the primary section of the game by the core players, this is a point where we will meet, and take care of the biggest section of the game: The Shadowrunning itself. I will be making a room on Slashnet, and the core players will log on and participate in the dealing, the run, and the action itself.

I also intend to include some sort of anonymous vote-for-MVP or best roleplayer award, but no details yet.

Homework - I wish I had a friendlier word for this, but basically once a week, I intend to give an assignment to the players. Maybe I'll ask you to flesh out some contact details, or detail your lifestyle. Nothing too strenuous, but something that doesn't quite fit into the actual IRC session itself.

Downtime - Downtime will take place between sessions via PBP in a PBP thread. Different players may participate different amounts, and that's fine. The goal here is to allow core players to seek things, pursue leads, and work with contacts.


This leads into the next aspect of the game
Players
I'm shooting for four to five core characters, but this is open to both fortune and discussion. Players will need to present concepts, and I'll probably go over them this weekend and make a decision. There will be a limit of two mages, or one mage and one adept. Restrictive? Yes. But there's a lot of roles in this game, and the last time I saw a game start up, it seemed like a huge magic-party. Lets avoid that.

As for concepts, being unique is cool, but don't forget that unique and silly straddle an uncomfortably thin line. I'd like the game to run somewhat iconically if it at all can.

As for people who aren't core players, whether that's because you don't want to be, you aren't lucky enough to have been chosen, or you can't make the meet time, you can still participate in the PBP section! This is something I want to try out, so you'll have to bear with me, and it might get axed if it becomes all-together too annoying, but Ive been toying with the idea of player-controlled contacts. Leave a concept for a contact, work with players if you'd like, and we'll try to work you into the game. I might give the players some free player contacts if there are enough. I'll have to work out something for stats, but I should be able to stat up most any concept for you.
Questions
This section will remain for questions that others ask, or that I think of. I'll start.

Why did you choose third edition?
The main reasons are that I've never actually played fourth edition, and that I also own way more books for third than for fourth. There are some flavor things I like better than third as well, although that's mostly minor to be honest.

I've never played before. Halp!
There are pre-generated characters to be found in the core rulebook, and I intend for the first session to include some NPCs to help new players get a feeling for the game. Additionally, I'll help to make characters, or tweak precons for interested newbies.

Who gets the mage slots?
I intend to hand them out based on concept, so if you're looking for that coveted spot, you might want a back-up. I've also sort of told INNS he could have one, although it better not suck!

Setting?
I'm thinking during Year of the Comet, since there's a lot of news around that time, which should help draw players into the world that's happening around them, I hope.
Right now, I just want to gauge interest, figure out what people want/need to know about the game and what people think. Then we can move onto the details. I hope to have the game up and running by next Wednesday. Let me know if you're interested, and start drumming up ideas for characters or contacts!

Thank you.


Edit 1 6:50EST 07-08-2009: Whoops I forgot that I'll have fencing class Wednesday nights when classes start in late August. Either we can use the time I listed for a while, or we can change the time. Either one will have to wait until after I get back in tonight.

Edit 2 5:43EST 07-09-2009: Tuesdays good?

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  • INeedNoSaltINeedNoSalt Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Fuck yeah, I am the magiest.

    Actually, I might be a shaman.

    We'll see.

    Edit: there's a w in shadowrun

    sometimes you just gotta do a thing
  • piLpiL Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Edit: there's a w in shadowrun

    You saw nothing.

  • INeedNoSaltINeedNoSalt Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I don't suppose you're feelin' Ghouls, huh, piL.

    (I am assuming a 'no' but I always ask!)

    sometimes you just gotta do a thing
  • piLpiL Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Actually, I'm willing (especially since I've always wanted to play a ghoul)! But I'll need to consider what everyone throws out, so keep a non-ghoul concept ready. If it turns into a shapeshifter-undead-dark-elf menagerie, then everybody can fuck the shit right off, but people can keep it cool and interesting, then a ghoul wont be entirely out of the question.

  • INeedNoSaltINeedNoSalt Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I'll write up a not-ghoul first, and make a ghoul as an alternative take on the same role to see how you feel about it afterwards, then!

    Does Shadowrun have dark elfs?

    sometimes you just gotta do a thing
  • SpectralSporkSpectralSpork Registered User
    edited July 2009
  • piLpiL Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I'll write up a not-ghoul first, and make a ghoul as an alternative take on the same role to see how you feel about it afterwards, then!

    Does Shadowrun have dark elfs?

    Yes, they're kind of neat. They're covered with a fine fur that's dark colored (black bluish or purplish), and they're super rare. They have a natural allergy to sunlight; I think it's weak, but I can't recall for sure. I don't know if there were any major plots involving them, but I think it could have been pretty cool, and I can't think they're anything but a response to dark elves.

  • INeedNoSaltINeedNoSalt Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    And lo, I am humbled.

    Man, Bear is all about healing and protecting, and his Disadvantage is, roll well or kill your team.

    What the fuck, Bear.

    Here's lol: forcing Ghouls (and nobody else) to roll to see how their stats turn out at character generation. My ghoul with 6 int, 6 cha, and 6 wp comes out with 2 int and 2 charisma because on 8 dice, i scored 0 successes.

    I will post my mage or shaman concept shortly ... ghoul mage clearly wasn't in the cards. :p

    sometimes you just gotta do a thing
  • INeedNoSaltINeedNoSalt Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Okay, here is what I have got concept-wise for my Shaman:
    Spoiler:

    The problem with this first one is that it doesn't have much spiritualism flavor. Maybe not ideal. It might be best to scrap the Shamanism part altogether, and just make her a mean angry mage.

    Looking at Ghoul, it's very, very difficult to make a useful a ghoul mage (since ghoul+mage eats up 40 points out of 105, it's hard to get reasonable attributes as well as skills.) Perhaps fill the same 'role' by making a bruiser type character with guns instead of magic? I don't know. There's so many options with Shadowrun. Hm.

    sometimes you just gotta do a thing
  • illgottengainsillgottengains Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Im very interested. Very interested indeed. Unfortunately Im not certain I can make 6pm-10pm est on wends... if you manage to push that back a few hours I could probably do it though. PS. I think I may have a cooler shaman concept than INNS :p

  • SpectralSporkSpectralSpork Registered User
    edited July 2009
    Im very interested. Very interested indeed. Unfortunately Im not certain I can make 6pm-10pm est on wends... if you manage to push that back a few hours I could probably do it though. PS. I think I may have a cooler shaman concept than INNS :p

    He changed that kind of, he has fencing untl 9:15 Wed.

    Probley best if you give him when you're available as I already have.

  • Romantic UndeadRomantic Undead Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I would like to voice my interest as well.

    Not sure how many of the 3rd edition books I'll still have, so I'll chime back in later to let you know.

    Concept: A smooth, Cybernetically-enhanced fixer elf, with a focus on Charisma and dexterity. Whatever he can't charm his way into, he can sneak off with. Focus on having a lot of friends and a lot of resources, but not a front line fighter.

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  • piLpiL Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I like both of these concepts, so far..

    INNS: Aztechnology is pretty evil on it's own. If you're willing to do what other branch managers aren't, then D: . Perhaps you should shoot for one of the less evil sounding subsidaries. Do you plan to have a lot corporate background and facey skills? If you have trouble fitting these in, you xould probably revise to something less managerial since RU has offered his face concept. As for the Ghoul, you don't have to be a mage. It's hard to be chromed out as a Ghoul too though. It's a tough character to build, but I think it can be rewarding.

    illgottengains: We're still hammering out the time. In my mind, Tuesday at around the same time seems even better, but I'll have to see what people can do still. Does back mean earlier or later?

    Romantic Undead: I love cov-ops and I love faces! Sounds good to me.

  • Romantic UndeadRomantic Undead Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I played this character in a short lived campaign a few years back. I was loving it, but then the GM decided he'd rather play D&D... boooo...

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  • piLpiL Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    To be honest, when I was putting this together, I kept thinking about how much easier it would be to just run D&D, and that I liked my ideas for that too. But there's already plenty of that on the boards, so I figure I'd aim for variety.

  • INeedNoSaltINeedNoSalt Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    piL wrote: »
    INNS: Aztechnology is pretty evil on it's own. If you're willing to do what other branch managers aren't, then D: . Perhaps you should shoot for one of the less evil sounding subsidaries. Do you plan to have a lot corporate background and facey skills? If you have trouble fitting these in, you xould probably revise to something less managerial since RU has offered his face concept. As for the Ghoul, you don't have to be a mage. It's hard to be chromed out as a Ghoul too though. It's a tough character to build, but I think it can be rewarding.

    Well, the concept was that she was pretty much ethically bankrupt and just did whatever it took to get things running smoothly. Her only social skill was Intimidate (Physical) 5/7. She was less involved in actually doing management than she was in carrying a giant shotgun around and ensuring other branch managers that if things didn't start going smoothly, she'd set things right.

    Hm. Chroming out a ghoul is tough... what about bioware? I'm not sure they've got any particular limits in that realm...

    I might have to rewrite some of the shaman's background, or just make her into a mage because I'm not fitting much mysticism into the concept beyond the 'embody shark's ideal of CONSTANTLY EATING' (which I re-imagined in this case as constantly trying to acquire material things.) Hm hm. Let's see what I can do with a ghoul.

    sometimes you just gotta do a thing
  • piLpiL Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I think you might be right about the hermetic. Then you could also excuse the threatening away with the fact that you've always posed an intimidating figure to those that know, having been a magician. If you did want to stick with shark, you might also want to include a tie to the sea, a constant yearning. You wouldn't need to do much as far as that goes, however, because fortunately, Seattle's a coastal city.

  • INeedNoSaltINeedNoSalt Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Yar, I'm putting together a mage that seems a lot more uh, natural than forcing Shark to fit that concept. Will post ideas re: that tonight!

    sometimes you just gotta do a thing
  • piLpiL Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I'm officially moving this boat to 6-10pm EST Tuesdays nights. Is there anybody this does not work for?

  • DarcDarc Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I has da interest, but I would throw a serious wrench into your game times. D'oh. If you ever get bored and feel like doing something that starts in the 10pm EST timeframe, I'm definitely game.

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  • illgottengainsillgottengains Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Tuesday is actually great for me. I typically work during this timeframe but for whatever reason they dont schedule me for tuesday. I'll work on my character concept. ( you said you would allow two magic users? Because I think I've got a pretty good concept for my snake shaman. If I can't play him, I'll send something else in, probably some nasty ork or something. ) Concept incoming..

  • illgottengainsillgottengains Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Spoiler:

  • INeedNoSaltINeedNoSalt Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    hope dude doesn't throw out a hip.

    what kind of spells are you taking, then? i'd spread my mage out to be a generalist, but hey, if i can focus on blowing stuff up exclusively, i'm pretty cool with that.

    sometimes you just gotta do a thing
  • illgottengainsillgottengains Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Im mainly taking things like control action/emotion, healing, and illusions. Yoshima will have zero attack spells and carry no firearms, although he may take a knife along, just in case.. so feel free to blow stuff up :D

  • piLpiL Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I like it. I like it a lot. I want to assist in the character creation process, so I hope you don't mind if I throw a few things at you and see what you think. I'll try to keep from taking over.

    One thing I wonder is when did Snake come to you? Is that something you wanted to happen in game, or to have already happened (your character is about 50 years old when this game begins, something I think is awesome). You talk much about what Yoshima did, but what did Snake do for Yoshima?

    The other thing, and you can do what you will with this (or nothing) is that I found this link http://books.google.com/books?id=gqs-y9R2AekC&pg=PA252&lpg=PA252&dq=snake+in+japanese+mythology&source=bl&ots=QZ3I_5nzfl&sig=qkwnI99yd94MNopEnuFkoZFXuDo&hl=en&ei=4LFWSuqWNNKgmAeqsI28AQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=6 about snakes in Japanese mythology. You might want to think about taking some of those roles on yourself, or applying some of those roles to Snake. Or forgetting about it all entirely and letting your own mythos serve. Just thought you might be interested.

    Edit: I was hoping we could kind of get characters in around Saturday or Sunday to see how that works.

  • illgottengainsillgottengains Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Hm.

    The way Im looking at is Yoshima used to be this sort of, well, he was a slacker, and mostly useless before his encounter with snake. He knew he wanted to do something to help others, although his focus was on his brother at the time, but he didn't really have the means to do much. Snake was a sort of door opener, a gentle hand to show him the way. I picture Yoshima on his rowboat sort of just thinking about stuff with a hook in the water when a water snake creeps up toward the boat, slithers up and sort of standing the way cobra's do (although his snake is not a cobra) and sort of start talking to him. Snake tells him that he has more important things to do and guides him to Yomi. Snake then conceals the boat and themselves, showing Yoshima this magical technique. And so Snake aids him on Yomi, which is sort of a training ground for him, before slithering off one day just a quickly as he came. Yoshima and Snake don't hang out as much any more but they do sit down for a chat on occasion.

    As for the mythology aspect I think that's pretty cool, snakes thought of as lesser dragons, and could maybe be worked in.. the only thing is that dragons tend to be thought of as all powerful, and terrible things, where as snake is a wise and gentle healer... the imagery works quite well though.

  • illgottengainsillgottengains Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Watanabe Yushima
    Snake Shaman
    Spoiler:


    Yushima is a pacifist. He will never (perhaps even in death) harm another person. However, he has no qualms about commanding a person to harm himself. Yushima just can't manage to do physical harm to another with his own hands. Bad nerves or something. He is a trader of secrets and a magical healer. He uses detection, illusion, manipulation, and healing spells. In combat he uses mass confusion to debuff his enemies, then one by one Influences them to run away, shoot allies, or throw themselves out windows.

    He is an older looking fellow with salt and peppered hair that he keeps in a short professional cut. He wears narrow rimmed eyeglasses and might be confused for a history professor if it weren't for the many colored tattoo's mainly of snakes and naked women.

  • ZellpherZellpher Hermit Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    GAH! whenever one of these comes up I never seem to have enough time for them. Well, if any assistance is needed or wanted with anything let me know.

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  • INeedNoSaltINeedNoSalt Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Okay, my concepts will be here, see what piL thinks. Each of these characters will have one another as contacts because I like them both.

    A) Esther Smith, elven street mage. She's a smart, capable mage who specializes in breaking things. She's fairly young, having Awakened fairly early in life (during high school specifically), and only recently graduated from the Dunkelzahn Institute, having transferred there upon its opening in 2057 from MIT&T. She majored in Destructive Thaumaturgy with a minor in Modern Anthropology.

    She's also something of a criminal, now. Tuition at MIT&T and the Dunkelzahn Institute wasn't cheap, and Esther had agreed to join the UCAS military and put her combat magic to use for the Government in exchange for their help in covering her student fees.

    After a year in the field, lots of training followed by a bit of actual field experience (where Esther learned to be a little more comfortable with a firearm), Esther decided she was unhappy with the life that laid before her, fighting as cheap labor for the Corporations that held most sway over the government.

    During a brief leave in the UCAS, Esther made herself disappear, escaping to Tir Tairngire for several months before donning her present pseudonym (you didn't think Esther Smith was a real name, right?) and moving back to the UCAS' territory in Seattle.

    She's been in Seattle for about six months, and her funds are drying up: she's starting to get desperate, and putting her magic to use on the street seems about her best option, here.

    B) Edward Mort, ridiculously cybered up bio-weapon style Ghoul with blades that shoot out of his hands. This guy used to be a regular human, and he attended MIT&T concurrently with Esther Smith, though he studied cybernetic technology development rather than the magical pursuits that interested Esther.

    Edward wasn't a great student - he was bright, but not a genius, and he had trouble keeping up with a lot of his peers at MIT&T - which wasn't a huge problem, because he really got into the school on a football scholarship, anyway. More reliant on performance on the field than in the classroom to retain his position, Edward resorted to abusing 'ware to keep up in a football league dominated by huge orks and the occasional troll.

    When he was spotted throwing a troll four feet taller than him to the ground with his shoulder, he was ousted from a game, tested, and found to have been using illegal bioware ... he lost his scholarship and was expelled from the school.

    Which is for the best, really, because there's a reason that used Bioware is so cheap, and street docs are so expensive: the illegal bioware still carried the Krieger strain of the HMHVV from it's previous host, and Edward began to suffer from it's effects not long after leaving the school ...

    (okay, so that one's not terribly complete, but I like it, and they both feel more natural than the shark shaman. also, i want piL's OK for the ghoul before i finish too much more on him... he's got something like 11 quickness, 11 strength, and 9+2d6 init, so he's kind of whacky... he also uses a ton of bioware (for +5 str and +5 qui) to get around the 5-essence-and-double-costs of ghoul cyberware.)

    sometimes you just gotta do a thing
  • SpectralSporkSpectralSpork Registered User
    edited July 2009
    So we got a Face, Snake Shaman and Mage/Ghoul, and I'll probley write up Mr. Kill Everything later. :P

  • Romantic UndeadRomantic Undead Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I'll make some time to write up Absalom (my elven former corporate fixer/face) on Saturday.

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  • piLpiL Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    illgottengains: I just skimmed, and it looks good from that; I'll take a closer look later, but looks good and I like where it is.

    Zellpher: Too bad. I offered to let other people play contacts during the downtime, and if you're into that, you can, but it doesn't look like all too many people are, so I might scrap that idea.

    INNS: Both look fine to me, so it'll be up to your choice. I'll end up coming up with notes for either, but that's just how I operate.

    Spork: Good to hear; looking forward to it.

    RU: Good stuff, I'll check it out once you got it.


    Looks like everything's on track to start on Tuesday. Looking forward to it!

  • Romantic UndeadRomantic Undead Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Oh I just wanted to add a note for Tuesdays: Generally, I have no problems with Tuesdays. Just be advised that where I live, Tuesdays are "cheap movie days" at the local theatre, so every now and again, I might be asked to go check out a flick. Won't happen too often, but it might happen, so just letting you know.

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  • SpectralSporkSpectralSpork Registered User
    edited July 2009
    Oh I just wanted to add a note for Tuesdays: Generally, I have no problems with Tuesdays. Just be advised that where I live, Tuesdays are "cheap movie days" at the local theatre, so every now and again, I might be asked to go check out a flick. Won't happen too often, but it might happen, so just letting you know.

    Does that mean you get demoted to ablative meatshield then? :P

  • Romantic UndeadRomantic Undead Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Oh I just wanted to add a note for Tuesdays: Generally, I have no problems with Tuesdays. Just be advised that where I live, Tuesdays are "cheap movie days" at the local theatre, so every now and again, I might be asked to go check out a flick. Won't happen too often, but it might happen, so just letting you know.

    Does that mean you get demoted to ablative meatshield then? :P

    Fine, I'll just have to make sure I'm not wearing my expensive Armani on those days :P

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  • SpectralSporkSpectralSpork Registered User
    edited July 2009
    Oh I just wanted to add a note for Tuesdays: Generally, I have no problems with Tuesdays. Just be advised that where I live, Tuesdays are "cheap movie days" at the local theatre, so every now and again, I might be asked to go check out a flick. Won't happen too often, but it might happen, so just letting you know.

    Does that mean you get demoted to ablative meatshield then? :P

    Fine, I'll just have to make sure I'm not wearing my expensive Armani on those days :P

    Armani? Is that some continental word for bandage? :P

  • Erich ZahnErich Zahn Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    You forgot to link NSCRG

    Are you using any of BlackJack's houserules?

    Anyway, throwing together a few characters. Troll mechanic(Contact), and a few variations on the theme of former corporate security.

  • SpectralSporkSpectralSpork Registered User
    edited July 2009
    Erich Zahn wrote: »
    You forgot to link NSCRG

    Are you using any of BlackJack's houserules?

    Anyway, throwing together a few characters. Troll mechanic(Contact), and a few variations on the theme of former corporate security.

    Whatever that file is, it does not exist.

  • INeedNoSaltINeedNoSalt Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    works fine for me!

    and NSRCG is awesome.

    sometimes you just gotta do a thing
  • SpectralSporkSpectralSpork Registered User
    edited July 2009
    Odd. Regardless, I'm going to have to bail on the lot of you. Professor is throwing more homework on us and I'm going to be hardpressed to keep up with that and work.

    Man, piL had actually talked me into wanting to do this.

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