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I am playing Deus Ex for the first time.

Marty81Marty81 Registered User regular
edited August 2009 in Games and Technology
And shit just got real.
Spoiler:

I'll admit that I tried to play this game once a couple of years ago and I just couldn't get into it, but this time it sucked me right in. I'm loving just about everything about this game - the writing, the voice acting (!), the gameplay, and most of all, the attention to detail. I love how dialog and scenes play out differently depending on what you've already done, without feeling forced. I've taken the computer hacking skill, and I'm loving hacking into everyone's email accounts to get a sense of what's going on. There are insights as well as both subtle and not-so-subtle foreshadowing in the emails, the public terminals, the newspapers, etc. It's all just tied together so incredibly well so far. Hopefully this will be the case for the rest of the game.

Gameplay wise, I'm enjoying all the different ways you can get through situations in this game - sneaking, shooting, hacking security, disabling security with electronic tools or rockets, swimming around threats, blowing down doors/picking locks/finding keys, etc. The RPG-like stats upgrade system makes this interesting, and I can see me doing some kind of archetypal run-through after I finish the game. I'm playing a well-rounded character this time, with computer hacking, upgraded multitools and lockpicks, and the sniper rifle, GEP gun, and flamethrower as my main weapons.

Question about the baton: If I hit a guy in the right spot from behind while sneaking, I should score a one-hit knockout, right? I can get it to happen sometimes, but not always. I haven't increased my melee weapons skills at all, but a FAQ I was looking at said that shouldn't matter. I've taken to using napalm instead :/

Question about stats: Is there a difference in accuracy between untrained and master for, say, the pistol, once the targeting crosshairs are zoomed in all the way? I've figured out how to be pretty accurate with my weapons, so I'm wondering if I'd get much besides a damage boost by putting points in them. According to the description, upgrading a weapon skill carries an accuracy boost of some sort, but I don't know exactly what that means.

PS: Reinstall.

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  • AxenAxen My avatar is Excalibur. Yes, the sword.Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Good man, good man.


    also:
    Spoiler:

  • Kristmas KthulhuKristmas Kthulhu Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    You are in for a fucking treat, sir.

  • XtarathXtarath Registered User
    edited July 2009
    I am in the same boat as him, and I am kicking myself for not playing it sooner.

  • mere_immortalmere_immortal So tasty!Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    See, usually I'd be like "Awesome, you are so lucky."

    But every time I play Deus Ex it feels like the first time. The atmosphere sucks me in like nothing before or since and I doubt I will ever get bored of it.

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  • rayofashrayofash Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I could never get in to Deus Ex. It was kind of boring.

  • RobmanRobman Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

    Whelp Guess I'm digging out my install CD
    rayofash wrote: »
    I could never get in to Deus Ex. It was kind of boring.

    Infiidel

  • Steel AngelSteel Angel Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Marty81 wrote: »
    And shit just got real.
    Spoiler:

    The main plotline is pretty linear til the end. You've already been marked as a fallguy or pawn no matter how much you may argue. Powerful groups with plans in motion aren't going to change them because you make a pretty speech.
    Question about the baton: If I hit a guy in the right spot from behind while sneaking, I should score a one-hit knockout, right? I can get it to happen sometimes, but not always. I haven't increased my melee weapons skills at all, but a FAQ I was looking at said that shouldn't matter. I've taken to using napalm instead :/

    I think I read somewhere that the non-lethal weapons will sometimes just not do damage on a hit, likely to balance them out with the lethal weapons that always cause the enemy to scream on death. Hence the baton sometimes does that. Really, if you want to do the non-lethal, one hit takedown, you should just stick with the stun prod. Even if it fails the first time, they're stunned so you can try to knock them out again silently.
    Question about stats: Is there a difference in accuracy between untrained and master for, say, the pistol, once the targeting crosshairs are zoomed in all the way? I've figured out how to be pretty accurate with my weapons, so I'm wondering if I'd get much besides a damage boost by putting points in them. According to the description, upgrading a weapon skill carries an accuracy boost of some sort, but I don't know exactly what that means.

    You can't go above 100% accuracy so you won't be seeing a further boost. It's one reason I never put accuracy mods into rifles if I'm maxxing them.

    Note that the damage boost still can be very significant. Master rifle skill lets the sniper rifle destroy camera, alarm panels, turrets, and some locked objects with a bullet, tasks that normally require an explosive or otherwise unsuppressible weapon. You start to go through rifle ammunition a lot quicker once you reach that phase though. 8-)

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  • mere_immortalmere_immortal So tasty!Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    If your rifle level is high enough a silenced sniper is ridiculously good.

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  • Marty81Marty81 Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Marty81 wrote: »
    And shit just got real.
    Spoiler:

    The main plotline is pretty linear til the end. You've already been marked as a fallguy or pawn no matter how much you may argue. Powerful groups with plans in motion aren't going to change them because you make a pretty speech.

    Ok, so I guess what you're saying is
    Spoiler:
    Marty81 wrote: »
    Question about stats: Is there a difference in accuracy between untrained and master for, say, the pistol, once the targeting crosshairs are zoomed in all the way? I've figured out how to be pretty accurate with my weapons, so I'm wondering if I'd get much besides a damage boost by putting points in them. According to the description, upgrading a weapon skill carries an accuracy boost of some sort, but I don't know exactly what that means.

    You can't go above 100% accuracy so you won't be seeing a further boost. It's one reason I never put accuracy mods into rifles if I'm maxxing them.

    And fully zoomed in crosshairs = 100% accuracy, regardless of my skill level? Sorry, I'm a newbie :P

  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu ___________PIGEON _________San Diego, CA Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
  • RobmanRobman Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    And it's on steam

    I was safe because I couldn't find the CD
    FFFFUUUUUUU

  • The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    For fucks sake. Time to reinstall.

    scarab you have mental problems
  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Wait until you get to Hong Kong. The game then becomes fucking hilarious.

  • KhavallKhavall Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Ha! I have to leave for a performance later today and then I have a party! You won't get me Deus Ex!

  • KhavallKhavall Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Couscous wrote: »
    Wait until you get to Hong Kong. The game then becomes fucking hilarious.

    Most offensive VA in history

  • AxenAxen My avatar is Excalibur. Yes, the sword.Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    My only complaint with the game:

    don't read unless you have beaten or got near the end of the game.
    Spoiler:

    its my only, and honestly, mild complaint with an otherwise fantastic game. Heres hoping the third one some how ends up as awesome as the first.

  • mere_immortalmere_immortal So tasty!Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Couple of worthy links.

    Deus Ex on modern systems - Fixes the game running too fast or slowly and other stuff like widescreen modes.

    The Nameless Mod - Bored of original Deus Ex? Then youre a tool, but try this anyway! The closest thing to playing the original game. Full voice acting, brand new world/story/weapons and everything. Really awesome.

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  • NeliNeli Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Are there any graphical upgrade mods?

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  • TrusTrus Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I dont like Deus Ex, there, I said it

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  • RenzoRenzo Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Couple of worthy links.

    Deus Ex on modern systems - Fixes the game running too fast or slowly and other stuff like widescreen modes.

    The Nameless Mod - Bored of original Deus Ex? Then youre a tool, but try this anyway! The closest thing to playing the original game. Full voice acting, brand new world/story/weapons and everything. Really awesome.

    You ass, my widescreen monitor was holding me back.

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  • AxenAxen My avatar is Excalibur. Yes, the sword.Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I remember my Dad walking in to check out Deus Ex when I had first bought it. He was reading the back of the box and said, "UNATCO? The U.N? You're playing as the bad guys you know." We laughed and laughed, unaware of how true his humorous statement would be.

  • Marty81Marty81 Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Renzo wrote: »
    Couple of worthy links.

    Deus Ex on modern systems - Fixes the game running too fast or slowly and other stuff like widescreen modes.

    The Nameless Mod - Bored of original Deus Ex? Then youre a tool, but try this anyway! The closest thing to playing the original game. Full voice acting, brand new world/story/weapons and everything. Really awesome.

    You ass, my widescreen monitor was holding me back.

    My GOTY from Steam has a 1920x1200 option built-in.

    Can someone answer my two questions above, please?

  • RobmanRobman Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Yes, fully zoomed in crosshairs = 100%

    As for the plot question, welp, every man stands alone in Deus Ex. Experiment and enjoy.

  • augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Axen wrote: »
    Good man, good man.


    also:
    Spoiler:

    Dude that's one of the best decision points in the game.
    Spoiler:

    Spoiler:
  • mere_immortalmere_immortal So tasty!Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Neli wrote: »
    Are there any graphical upgrade mods?

    The HDTP project is apparently still in development, but honestly its been going so long I doubt it will be released.

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  • AxenAxen My avatar is Excalibur. Yes, the sword.Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    august wrote: »
    Axen wrote: »
    Good man, good man.


    also:
    Spoiler:

    Dude that's one of the best decision points in the game.
    Spoiler:
    Spoiler:

    Thats the option I normally took.

  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    august wrote: »
    Axen wrote: »
    Good man, good man.


    also:
    Spoiler:

    Dude that's one of the best decision points in the game.
    Spoiler:
    Spoiler:

  • The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Someone got a link to that high res texture pack? My Google-fu is surprisingly shit today.

    scarab you have mental problems
  • augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Marty81 wrote: »
    Marty81 wrote: »
    And shit just got real.
    Spoiler:

    The main plotline is pretty linear til the end. You've already been marked as a fallguy or pawn no matter how much you may argue. Powerful groups with plans in motion aren't going to change them because you make a pretty speech.

    Ok, so I guess what you're saying is
    Spoiler:
    Spoiler:
    Marty81 wrote: »
    Question about stats: Is there a difference in accuracy between untrained and master for, say, the pistol, once the targeting crosshairs are zoomed in all the way? I've figured out how to be pretty accurate with my weapons, so I'm wondering if I'd get much besides a damage boost by putting points in them. According to the description, upgrading a weapon skill carries an accuracy boost of some sort, but I don't know exactly what that means.

    You can't go above 100% accuracy so you won't be seeing a further boost. It's one reason I never put accuracy mods into rifles if I'm maxxing them.

    And fully zoomed in crosshairs = 100% accuracy, regardless of my skill level? Sorry, I'm a newbie :P[/QUOTE]
    Spoiler:

    Spoiler:
  • mere_immortalmere_immortal So tasty!Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    Someone got a link to that high res texture pack? My Google-fu is surprisingly shit today.

    http://www.offtopicproductions.com/hdtp/

    Thats the site, and the forums are still pretty alive, but only the beta pack is available.

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  • augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    My personal fav re: Anna is
    Spoiler:

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  • augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I'm sure the hdtp will be done sometime before I start pulling retirement. Maybe.

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  • augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Also the Shifter mod is a really great balance mod.

    edit:http://yukichigai.googlepages.com/shifter

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  • StollsStolls Brave Corporate Logo Chicago, ILRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    As Deus Ex is the first thing I install on any computer - even those that are not mine - I am immune to the reinstalling meme.

    However, I am now going to have to replay it. Paris, man. Paris. 8-)

    Higher skill levels mean more damage in general, in addition to better accuracy, recoil, reload time etc. When you look at a weapon's details, anything that's bolded is something that's affected by your current skill level, before factoring in weapon mods and the effects of augmentations. I don't know if they change damage done over time, like the crossbow, but I do know that at Master and sometimes Advanced pistol skill, a single tranq dart to the head will drop most human targets instantly.

  • rayofashrayofash Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Couscous wrote: »
    Wait until you get to Hong Kong. The game then becomes fucking hilarious.

    That's when I stopped playing.

  • kaliyamakaliyama Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    rayofash wrote: »
    Couscous wrote: »
    Wait until you get to Hong Kong. The game then becomes fucking hilarious.

    That's when I stopped playing.

    Stick to Daikatana and Madden games, then.

    As for me, i'm reinstalling. ^#!(^!it!

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  • OlivawOlivaw good name, isn't it? peach treesRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I VANTED ORANGE

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  • XtarathXtarath Registered User
    edited July 2009
    Olivaw wrote: »
    I VANTED ORANGE

    Best line.

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