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The Bitching About Bad Comics Thread
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that is exactly what I mean
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I much prefer the way Parker is handling him in the Dark Reign mini, not that bad a guy but into some seriously shady shit, who's keeping control because he doesn't pull all the stupid 'mwuhahahaha!' *shoots a henchman* bullshit, but looks after his crew.
Any time he fights Superman, he should die. I hate that everyone's like, "Well, with enough planning, Viagra and Kryptonite blah blah!"
WHILE YOU WERE THINKING THAT HE JUST KILLED BATS THREE TIMES!
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see if he did anything like this in New Avengers he might be interesting
but no
you are right, he doesn't go mustache twirly
he doesn't do anything remotely interesting other than recruit terrible villains
he is like a boring Kingpin
so boooooring
Why should Luthor be considered a threat to Superman if Batman isn't one as well?
And you know, I like when heroes employ strategy and utilize obscure contingency plans. There should be a reasonable limit to what you can prepare for, however, and it'd be nice if Batman's writers heeded that limit so that those instances where the character performs brilliantly stand out instead of seeming like another Mary Sue moment.
As for the Hood, I still don't understand how he became the new Kingpin anyway. All his strategy comes down to is paying a lot of C-Listers really well. If Osborn or any other rich villain wanted, he could just buy the Hood out.
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It's not the future of comics. Quit wasting time and resources for voices and other crap and just scan the fucking comic in and sell it to us for $1.50.
I never loved Spider-Man. It's not like I was reading, let alone collecting, his books with regularity when I would read them in the '80s. I mainly read them because everyone else I knew read them.
Well in a real world, no, Batman will die. Doesnt matter if hes coated in Kryptonite if Superman lunges at him at full speed and absolutely liquifies him. But while Luthor is probably Waynes scientific better, theres no reason he can be a villain to Superman and Batman can't be a counterbalance. Him building some form of super robot bat suit is probably the best way for him to go though.
This is the exact reason why every time in my past I've tried to get into reading Batman, it always fails.
I love the scene in GL: Rebirth when Alan Scott metaphorically says "Sit down, Bats, and let the guys with rings made by a post-Singularity alien race that can channel pure willpower fight this guy."
Did someone say masturbation and ham in the same sentence
I got here as soon as I could.
I haven't read BL but I glanced through it at the shop and there seemed to be so many words.
It's funny that you don't like Morrison's Batman since he's actually the one writer that handles your first problem incredibly well. He had Batman play the more stealth/strategist role in JLA, whether it's messing up white martians, infiltrating Darkseid's ranks or just encouraging Superman to fuck up Mageddon. His role in Final Crisis was pretty similar.
As for your second problem, I think it's been used so many times that Morrison just decided that it's become a trait of the character. I don't really mind it, so long as it's handled well.
And yeah, Tower of Babel sucks. Mark Waid really doesn't write a good Batman, neither does Geoff Johns.
Waid, Busiek, Johns, Morrison, Byrne, these are all Superman writers.
Rucka, Winnick, Dini, Dixon, Moench, these are the Batman writers.
Well in a real world, no, Batman will die. Doesnt matter if hes coated in Kryptonite if Superman lunges at him at full speed and absolutely liquifies him. But while Luthor is probably Waynes scientific better, theres no reason he can be a villain to Superman and Batman can't be a counterbalance. Him building some form of super robot bat suit is probably the best way for him to go though.
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I'd put Morrison and Rucka in both lists. Morrison's written some great Batman stuff across JLA, Batman and Final Crisis. While Rucka's has some really good Superman stuff too, notably in World of New Krypton and his Adventures of Superman run.
I mean, Batman's life has been so bad that his sad memories drive alien mutant supersoldiers to suicide? Really? His life has been so awful, any lesser being besides Batman couldn't possibly take it. Good thing Daredevil wasn't taken instead, I guess, because he would have been out of that trap in three minutes, all the bad memories that guy has.
I'm pretty sure it wasn't his shitty life that made them go insane but the overwhelming rush of shitty memories, which Batman had triggered by figuring out what they were doing.
Geoff Johns's take on Batman isn't my cup of tea, either. I can't quite place my finger on why. I think it's because his portrayal of Bruce Wayne has lacked many of the character traits that I find enjoyable. His Batman is just very plain - the only common ground his Bruce has with many others from the past ten years has been intensity. But even then, Johns doesn't direct that intensity in the ways I've grown to enjoy.
Oh, and the whole Batman having a nervous breakdown felt forced and diminished the character in my opinion. I suppose it made for a decent story at the end of the day/arc(s), though it unfolded in a painfully inorganic way.
Fucking extra Earth for no reason that will never be mentioned again. Goddamn "Doom's Master", super-the-most-best villain that's basically just a 1985 cameo and will, again, never been mentioned again.
It's like the main book has been a "What If?" for years.
And their appearances in other books boil down to "Wow, that Reed Richards sure is a world-class cockbite."
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I think the way we were meant to take it is The Hood essentially established a super villains union. They stick with him because it's a job that comes with health cover, being bailed out of jail, crap like that.
The Hoods cartel seems to encourage working together against common foes and looking out for each other whereas Kingpins resulted in the Sinister # all trying to kill each other with the Kingpin largely encouraging that.
Yeah, thats a good way to put it, unfortunately because of the way that comics work, the villains always lose. So as a result The Hoods crew only show up to attack the heroes and get their arses kicked.
The way I'd like to see it handled would be rather than having The Hood and co showing up to do stupid non-profitable crap like attacking the Avengers, use his organisation as a more responsive entity. Somebody like the Punisher or Daredevil shows up and starts trying to kill or interrogate a C-list villain, the C-lister makes a call and then the hero has to escape with the entire organisation coming for him.
It worked well at first. I was first introduced to him when he assaulted that Tiger lady and basically emotionally crippled her and threatened her and her entire family if she ever moved against him and his organisation. If he can get a team working together like the Avengers itd be pretty interesting and probably more cohesive than the Dark Avengers but yeah, victory for them means dead heroes unless theyre willing to just accept defeated heroes.
Some of the more standout stories I've seen are ones where villains win. Like the Wanted comic where all the heroes are dead. Old Man Logan was kinda interesting but more in a twisted way and one thats not sustainable, especially what Skull did to
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You know there is a mini-series about the extra earth, right?
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Im simple, its worked on me lots. Did anyone here watch MOrtal Kombat the series? Nothing like seeing the heroes be brutally executed at the end to mess with a little boys sense of right and wrong. In comics its the imagination that does it.
If a hero wins you know its not going to eb a long drawn out death for the villain, itll be a punch or a fall or a blast, theyll get out some final words and die.
But if a hero loses, you can guarantee they were probably skinned, deboned, raped, forced to watch everything they stood for be destroyed and then tortured, revived, tortured, revived and ultimately killed. And everything I know says that should never happen to the hero.
did you think of this?!
As for the demons and Nazis themselves, the fact that there isn't enough world to go around for all of them, even if they didn't have conflicting ethos that demands they fight each other if given the chance, sort of demands that any alliance between them last only as long as it takes for one to find the opportunity to backstab the other.
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Well, most villains didn't appear in Old Man Logan. The whole fight that sets the stage for the series takes place off-screen, after all.
One example that comes to mind, however, is Mysterio. Why the hell would Mysterio aid in the collapse of civilization?
And of course, there's the fact that Magneto is supposed to have teamed up with Red Skull in that big fight.
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Was that original Mysterio or a new one? I dont know what new Mysterio is like.
Skulls role was pretty fitting, but yeah you're right, most of those in Hoods outfit are low level costumed villains interested in money because they want it or need it and theyre tired of being manhandled by super heroes even when they aren't out villaining, just because of who they are.
P.S. New Mysterio sucks. Fuck you, Kevin Smith.
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Id have to assume ignorance on part of the writers. Other than that, probably was just promised freedom from heroic intervention rather than world domination/destruction.
Because 9% think it's too high, and shouldn't be cut! 9% of respondents could not fully
get their arms around the question. There should be another box you can check for, "I
have utterly no idea what you're talking about. Please, God, don't ask for my input."