right now, with a paper thin understanding of the subject
i think that the physical universe is wildly unpredictable due to quantum mechanics and materialistic determinism is completely impossible
this does not necessarily mean free will does or does not exist, just that chance exists and events are not predestined
this is what i think!
i have nothing but the faintest clue about quantum mechanics so just enlighten me for a second: does it suggest that random things can happen with no cause at all
well i mean this thread is, hypothetically, for discussion of determinism
if one wants to actually participate they must either already have some basic knowledge or acquire it so i linked the easiest way to get an overview of the subject
right now, with a paper thin understanding of the subject
i think that the physical universe is wildly unpredictable due to quantum mechanics and materialistic determinism is completely impossible
this does not necessarily mean free will does or does not exist, just that chance exists and events are not predestined
this is what i think!
i have nothing but the faintest clue about quantum mechanics so just enlighten me for a second: does it suggest that random things can happen with no cause at all
so far as i understand, which is little, particles are only PROBABLY gonna act like they turn out to, so chance is an inherent part of the physical universe
that is a gross oversimplification and probably wrong on multiple counts
if anyone could explain it in more detail please do
Music is music, it's always going to be just that.
There is so much amazing shit out there.
I can see where folks might try to draw comparisons between Western music these days as opposed to Western music in the "good 'ol days", but the fact is that great music continues to be released now, just as it did years ago.
I really can't see how free will can exist. I do believe that humans are all just animals with no souls as well, so it's a pretty easy belief to have.
so you are sixteen
That's silly. When I was 16, most people I knew were religious and believed in souls. When you are younger, you are more inclined to believe in imaginary things as far as I can tell.
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Life is too important to be taken seriously.
-Oscar Wilde
I really can't see how free will can exist. I do believe that humans are all just animals with no souls as well, so it's a pretty easy belief to have.
so you are sixteen
That's silly. When I was 16, most people I knew were religious and believed in souls. When you are younger, you are more inclined to believe in imaginary things as far as I can tell.
no I am fairly certain that most adolescents these days go through a period of "we're just animals and biology is my religion" before they begin to find deeper meaning later in life
yes, little kids are more likely to believe in imaginary things, but most hardcore atheists I know are teenagers
although I will grant that things were probably the other way around forty years ago
I really can't see how free will can exist. I do believe that humans are all just animals with no souls as well, so it's a pretty easy belief to have.
so you are sixteen
That's silly. When I was 16, most people I knew were religious and believed in souls. When you are younger, you are more inclined to believe in imaginary things as far as I can tell.
no I am fairly certain that most adolescents these days go through a period of "we're just animals and biology is my religion" before they begin to find deeper meaning later in life
yes, little kids are more likely to believe in imaginary things, but most hardcore atheists I know are teenagers
although I will grant that things were probably the other way around forty years ago
how delightfully arrogant of you to suppose that hardcore atheists are missing a 'deeper meaning'
I really can't see how free will can exist. I do believe that humans are all just animals with no souls as well, so it's a pretty easy belief to have.
so you are sixteen
That's silly. When I was 16, most people I knew were religious and believed in souls. When you are younger, you are more inclined to believe in imaginary things as far as I can tell.
yes but as you get older you also tend to mature and become self aware and are capable of seeing things as others view them
I really can't see how free will can exist. I do believe that humans are all just animals with no souls as well, so it's a pretty easy belief to have.
so you are sixteen
That's silly. When I was 16, most people I knew were religious and believed in souls. When you are younger, you are more inclined to believe in imaginary things as far as I can tell.
no I am fairly certain that most adolescents these days go through a period of "we're just animals and biology is my religion" before they begin to find deeper meaning later in life
yes, little kids are more likely to believe in imaginary things, but most hardcore atheists I know are teenagers
although I will grant that things were probably the other way around forty years ago
how delightfully arrogant of you to suppose that hardcore atheists are missing a 'deeper meaning'
well I guess I mean the kinds of atheists who are like "fuck religion/spirituality is retarded and we're all just chemical processes and science is as deep as anything gets"
the guys who are really vitriolic about their atheism
I really can't see how free will can exist. I do believe that humans are all just animals with no souls as well, so it's a pretty easy belief to have.
so you are sixteen
That's silly. When I was 16, most people I knew were religious and believed in souls. When you are younger, you are more inclined to believe in imaginary things as far as I can tell.
no I am fairly certain that most adolescents these days go through a period of "we're just animals and biology is my religion" before they begin to find deeper meaning later in life
yes, little kids are more likely to believe in imaginary things, but most hardcore atheists I know are teenagers
although I will grant that things were probably the other way around forty years ago
how delightfully arrogant of you to suppose that hardcore atheists are missing a 'deeper meaning'
well I guess I mean the kinds of atheists who are like "fuck religion/spirituality is retarded and we're all just chemical processes and science is as deep as anything gets"
the guys who are really vitriolic about their atheism
that did sound pretty arrogant, I'm sorry :[
you don't really mean they're missing a deeper meaning at all
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Can't really bring myself to be bothered though, so I just don't worry about it/vote.
Oh I see why people are freaking out. I meant to say any music made after 2000.
Why does my brain write shit opposite of what I'm thinking?
Rar rar Republicans
Yor Yor Democrats
Rar Yor Rar Yor in the butt.
that's less dumb but still pretty dumb
How so? Like how do you stack up an album like Dirtchamber versus anything made later? You can't. It's not possible.
You'll be projecting yourself into the future and going insane trying. So don't bother.
oh man, I love Chopin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ef-4Bv5Ng0w
and Dvorak
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yctfXIqugXc
Need some stuff designed or printed? I can help with that.
let's go to a sock hop
i have nothing but the faintest clue about quantum mechanics so just enlighten me for a second: does it suggest that random things can happen with no cause at all
ok it's back to being 100% dumb again
coincidences/lines of causality
I just thought you might write your own OP
like a Cliff's Notes version
People who say good music doesn't exist these days aren't really looking hard enough.
Is music the "same" as it was "back in the day"?
I don't know, maybe?
that is a silly name for a thing
Need some stuff designed or printed? I can help with that.
but you're going to pick a shitty 1999 album and say that all music after it pales in comparison?
lol
Nuh-uh. I challenge you to a rock off. How do you like that?
Ain't so tough now that you've been all challenged and shit.
Lets see you pull any album from the Ohs out vs the Dirtchamber and see who comes out on top?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heisenberg_Uncertainty_Principle
so far as i understand, which is little, particles are only PROBABLY gonna act like they turn out to, so chance is an inherent part of the physical universe
that is a gross oversimplification and probably wrong on multiple counts
if anyone could explain it in more detail please do
god you are by far the single dumbest person on these forums
There is so much amazing shit out there.
I can see where folks might try to draw comparisons between Western music these days as opposed to Western music in the "good 'ol days", but the fact is that great music continues to be released now, just as it did years ago.
Way to bail and let down a decade hose brain.
bam
better than Dirtchamber
I win
edit: Shank I just bought that album on Vinyl the other day - :^:
meiz loses
That's silly. When I was 16, most people I knew were religious and believed in souls. When you are younger, you are more inclined to believe in imaginary things as far as I can tell.
-Oscar Wilde
It was determinism that lead us down this path
Shank you get +5 music points
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That is not this though
and this is better
I really really want this album
this is an album i perceive to be "good" and it came out like a week ago
no I am fairly certain that most adolescents these days go through a period of "we're just animals and biology is my religion" before they begin to find deeper meaning later in life
yes, little kids are more likely to believe in imaginary things, but most hardcore atheists I know are teenagers
although I will grant that things were probably the other way around forty years ago
This came out after 2000 and I like it, does that make me a bad person?
the earth is not a cold dead place by explosions in the sky
a single song on that album is far greater than the sum total of Prodigy's work
I'm gonna spend them on a fancy tie!
do you see what i mean
well I guess I mean the kinds of atheists who are like "fuck religion/spirituality is retarded and we're all just chemical processes and science is as deep as anything gets"
the guys who are really vitriolic about their atheism
that did sound pretty arrogant, I'm sorry :[
2002
Need some stuff designed or printed? I can help with that.
you mean that they're being brash
Look
This is me
I am the guy who enjoyed making fun of post-rock and was like what the fuck is this shit literally six months ago
How Strange, Innocence, is in my top five albums right now