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Sen. Ted Kennedy dies at 77
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One of the grandchildren prayed to remove the division and hostility between people including "gay and straight" in the portion of the Mass where the assemblage asks "Lord Hear Our Prayer" (The Prayers of the Faitful)
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Margaret Thatcher
I agree, but that doesn't say good things about him at all.
Margaret Thatcher
If through his death we got healthcare for the masses, then I think it says GREAT things about the man.
The irony is that those sort of tactics will turn a lot of people off because it looks "crass" and "exploitive." Americans arn't stupid.
Margaret Thatcher
They hate us for our freedom, WMDs, Axis of Evil, Greet us as liberators....the list goes on.
Support for "Obama's health care" bill is 37%, in the same poll, after given a paragraph description of the health care bill the Democrats are pushing (I think the Senate HELP version), support is 53%.
I'll bet anything that within a week a majority of Americans will believe Kennedy hated this bill, even though his staff damn near wrote it.
And how smart is it to call americans stupid yet expect them to support your ideas and vote the way you want them to vote? It's that sort of arrogant, condescending, smug crap that pisses them off.
Yeah, insulting people is a *great* way to get them to come around to your point of view.
People like Obama and Kennedy succeeded because they didn't spit in the faces of their fellow countrymen.
Margaret Thatcher
I don't "spit in the faces" of my fellow countrymen. I do, however, base my assessment of political maneuvers in reality.
I asserted that americans arn't stupid.
You laughed.
That's a pretty strong indication that you believe this not to be true.
Are some americans dumb? Yeah, but the country as a whole is way too successful overall to be comprised of morons.
Margaret Thatcher
You don't have to be a moron in order to be stupid when it comes to politics, policy, or the arcane workings of Congress. So I'm really not seeing your point.
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Lazy really is the wrong terms, Americans tend to work pretty hard. I'm not sure what the right term is, but alot of the righties are locked in little cognitive feedback loops that refuse to accept reality.
I'd love for some psychologist to analyze the right as a whole, I mean it's groupthink 101, but there's more to it than that.
Intellectually apathetic, maybe? People get to a point where they have a little bit of information about something and they figure that's all they need. They aren't interested in informing themselves any further.
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See; your arrogance.
So what you're trying to say is that a lot of people have developed a trust in OptimusZed's arrogance?
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Very compelling argument there.
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Especially given polls where only a third of respondents can correctly identify the public option out of three possible answers and republican talking points are based on the claim that the public option isn't an option.
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Though I think if we are going to discuss this, we should probably move to a different topic than this one on the death of Ted Kennedy. I must admit Obama's eulogy was very well done and moving. Just reading it made me tear up a little.
There's nothing wrong with biased reporting provided you're upfront about it and actually doing good reporting. Biased shitty reporting is bad, but by the same token unbiased shitty reporting is also bad.
You should defend your sense of superiority over those who have a different opinion.
We're talking about a company that argued(successfully, I might add) that the media can lie legally.
I think the sense of superiority is completely warranted.
problem is most of what pundits say aren't opinions they're mudslingng as much stupid against the wall hoping one percent of it sticks.
I think there's nothing wrong with cutting people out of the discourse when they are not participating in good faith.
We can when that opinion is about established facts, such as the existence of death panels.
People are entitled to their own opinions, they are not entitled to their own facts.
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My favorite part of this is of course that if Kennedy weren't you know, a Senator or someone similarly powerful (like a Kennedy), that would have been his treatment under the current system.
Actually, from what I've read that basically was his treatment. He had a glioblastoma, which has a median life expectancy prognosis of about 15 months. Sure, he had the best care available, but this is a kind of particularly nasty cancer that has so far not had much success as far as treatment goes.
There really isn't much else that can be done other than managing the pain and symptoms, from what I've read.
Not to mention the fact that his health insurance is public already.