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New Protomen Album is out! Arguments kinda suck when they're not in Rock Opera format

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  • -SPI--SPI- Osaka, JapanRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Which song has the line that makes up Knob's title/location?

    Breaking Out

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  • DichotomyDichotomy Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
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    WE WILL BE HEROES

    WE WILL BUILD HEROES

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  • Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I was listening to The Hounds as I was walking to class and I had this extra bounce in my step because of it and I think some people were staring at me

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited September 2009
    I'm the say way with "Light Up The Night"

    And I keep wanting to change the lyrics to "WE BUILT THIS CITY ON ROCK AND ROLL"

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  • DoobhDoobh She/Her, Ace Pan/Bisexual 8-) What's up, bootlickers?Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    it's like some of ain't hear 80's rock opera before, the way you're all goin' on about this
    since I'm not getting inundated with hype about the first album, I've started listening to it again

    it's good rock opera
    and Breaking Out reminds me of Meatloaf

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  • ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    So does anyone have a physical copy of the CD yet?

    I'd really love to take a look at the liner notes, they helped my understanding of the plot in Act I considerably.

    Plus I don't know if I'm dumb but I have a really hard time following the plot after Breaking Out.

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  • MugginsMuggins Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    So does anyone have a physical copy of the CD yet?

    I'd really love to take a look at the liner notes, they helped my understanding of the plot in Act I considerably.

    Plus I don't know if I'm dumb but I have a really hard time following the plot after Breaking Out.

    Don't worry a lot of people do. Having Joe come in with little introduction is kind of confusing.

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  • ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Veretas wrote: »
    So does anyone have a physical copy of the CD yet?

    I'd really love to take a look at the liner notes, they helped my understanding of the plot in Act I considerably.

    Plus I don't know if I'm dumb but I have a really hard time following the plot after Breaking Out.

    Don't worry a lot of people do. Having Joe come in with little introduction is kind of confusing.

    Yeah like, I know he's there, and I know he dies, but other than that I'm pretty confused.

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  • MugginsMuggins Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
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  • DoobhDoobh She/Her, Ace Pan/Bisexual 8-) What's up, bootlickers?Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
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  • NaphtaliNaphtali Hazy + Flow SeaRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    So does anyone have a physical copy of the CD yet?

    I'd really love to take a look at the liner notes, they helped my understanding of the plot in Act I considerably.

    Plus I don't know if I'm dumb but I have a really hard time following the plot after Breaking Out.
    I know the first Act has been out for a while, but I only looked at the story on Wikipedia today - I didn't realize Megaman leaves the people who revolted to their deaths via Wily after Protoman dies. Ouch.

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  • ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Naphtali wrote: »
    So does anyone have a physical copy of the CD yet?

    I'd really love to take a look at the liner notes, they helped my understanding of the plot in Act I considerably.

    Plus I don't know if I'm dumb but I have a really hard time following the plot after Breaking Out.
    I know the first Act has been out for a while, but I only looked at the story on Wikipedia today - I didn't realize Megaman leaves the people who revolted to their deaths via Wily after Protoman dies. Ouch.
    Yes, well, he was understandably upset. He'd been forced to kill his brother to save those people and they showed absolutely no compassion. I'm hoping in Act III we'll see Light be able to convince him to go back. It'd be nice to see something go right for Light once in his whole life.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited September 2009
    Clearly act III is gonna be all about Roll

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  • MugginsMuggins Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Calling a musical number with Rush

    just a bunch of Wooooof woooof baaaark bark bark baaaaaaaaaaaaark

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  • DoobhDoobh She/Her, Ace Pan/Bisexual 8-) What's up, bootlickers?Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Wikipedia wrote:
    Roll

    Roll (ロール, Rōru?) is a female robot designed for housekeeping instead of fighting. She is the younger female counterpart of Mega Man (formerly known as Rock, a play on the term rock and roll), and plays a supporting role in the games. Roll first appears very briefly during the ending of the very first game of the series. Because so, her name was never mentioned until Mega Man 3, marking her return, where her entry in Dr. Light's robot list is shown during the ending. It is likely that Mega Girl, in the Captain N: The Game Master cartoon, is Roll.

    She is usually depicted in a red outfit with blonde hair. While she was not designed for fighting, she is a combatant in the fighting games, Marvel vs. Capcom and Marvel vs. Capcom 2. She fights similarly to Mega Man and has an external "Roll Buster." She also appears in the similar Tatsunoko vs. Capcom: Ultimate All Stars, where she uses her Powered Up model. She is also a playable character in Mega Man Powered Up, where she uses a broom as a default weapon with her skill, the Roll Swing, which she uses to swing a close range weapon that deals a large amount of damage. Roll can be played in several unlockable outfits, each with its own variation of the broom weapon. The version of Roll in Tatsunoko vs. Capcom appears to be based on the Mega Man Powered Up version. Roll is also included in the Nintendo 64 game, Megaman64, Where she is portrayed as somthing of Megamans sister, if not his actual sister. There is a point in the game where you can walk into her bedroom in their ship, while she is undressing, and she kicks the hero out, where he promptly does a victory pump with his arm.

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  • -SPI--SPI- Osaka, JapanRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Clearly act III is gonna be all about Roll

    Dr Cossack. The whole thing will be in bad russian accents.

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  • ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    -SPI- wrote: »
    Clearly act III is gonna be all about Roll

    Dr Cossack. The whole thing will be in bad russian accents.

    Hope rides aloneski?

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited September 2009
    Isn't Roll the worst character in MvC2?

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  • Indie WinterIndie Winter die Krähe Rudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Isn't Roll the worst character ever?

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  • DoobhDoobh She/Her, Ace Pan/Bisexual 8-) What's up, bootlickers?Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
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  • ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Isn't Roll the worst character in MvC2?

    Yes, by far. She's on her own tier, below bottom.

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  • Indie WinterIndie Winter die Krähe Rudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    JAPAAAAAAAAAAAAAN

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  • OlivawOlivaw good name, isn't it? the foot of mt fujiRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    STOP RUINING THIS THREAD WITH YOUR JAPAN

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  • Indie WinterIndie Winter die Krähe Rudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    SERIOUSLY JAPAN

    WHAT THE HELL

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  • Fire TruckFire Truck I love my SELFRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I do think a Protomen take on Roll would be aces.

    And remember, if Japan hadn't created Megaman in the first place, the right-thinking people of the world wouldn't have been able to take it and create something as wonderful as this rock opera.

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  • DE?ADDE?AD Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
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    Also DE?AD my mother has proclaimed you 'thoroughly delightful' and 'exceptionally easy to talk to' and Dubh has been dubbed 'extremely lovely'

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    Dubh wrote: »
    it's like some of ain't hear 80's rock opera before, the way you're all goin' on about this

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    Also, now that I've listened to the album version of Breaking Out a bit more, I'm thinking that it's probably Joe's introductory song, with Keep Quiet being Joe seeking out Doctor Light for assistance in his rebellion against Wily, and Light Up the Night being their first duet. The vocal range is closer to Joe's, and the singer even uses the phrase "I could use a little guiding light."

    Furthermore, I'm thinking the motorcyclist on the cover is meant to be Joe. Still unsure about the shadow above Wily's bilboard, though.

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  • Fire TruckFire Truck I love my SELFRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I like DE?AD's explanation for Breaking Out better. The way I saw it, the choir in The City vs. Thomas Light was the jury proclaiming him not guilty, so it never made sense for Light to end up in prison. Do other people think it was Joe who actually killed Emily?

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  • ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Fire Truck wrote: »
    I like DE?AD's explanation for Breaking Out better. The way I saw it, the choir in The City vs. Thomas Light was the jury proclaiming him not guilty, so it never made sense for Light to end up in prison. Do other people think it was Joe who actually killed Emily?

    I'm not sure who the general public thinks killed Emily. I do wonder who Joe thinks Light killed for "stepping over the line," though, that's one of the things I can't figure out.

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  • Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Fire Truck wrote: »
    I like DE?AD's explanation for Breaking Out better. The way I saw it, the choir in The City vs. Thomas Light was the jury proclaiming him not guilty, so it never made sense for Light to end up in prison. Do other people think it was Joe who actually killed Emily?

    I'm not sure who the general public thinks killed Emily. I do wonder who Joe thinks Light killed for "stepping over the line," though, that's one of the things I can't figure out.

    It could be any random guy who didn't shut up when Wily told him to; I think it's just to establish Wily's totalitarian nature

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  • ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    Fire Truck wrote: »
    I like DE?AD's explanation for Breaking Out better. The way I saw it, the choir in The City vs. Thomas Light was the jury proclaiming him not guilty, so it never made sense for Light to end up in prison. Do other people think it was Joe who actually killed Emily?

    I'm not sure who the general public thinks killed Emily. I do wonder who Joe thinks Light killed for "stepping over the line," though, that's one of the things I can't figure out.

    It could be any random guy who didn't shut up when Wily told him to; I think it's just to establish Wily's totalitarian nature

    I'm actually referring to Keep Quiet, which is where I'm pretty sure Joe is talking about meeting Light, and he says he heard of Light killing someone. But again, without the liner notes I'm just kinda guessing.

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  • DE?ADDE?AD Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I'm pretty sure it's Joe talking to Light, though I'm also thinking it's just some random guy - as far as I can tell the lines are "They say you'd kill a man just for walking the wrong side of the line" followed by "but they say a lot of foolish things".

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  • ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    DE?AD wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure it's Joe talking to Light, though I'm also thinking it's just some random guy - as far as I can tell the lines are "They say you'd kill a man just for walking the wrong side of the line" followed by "but they say a lot of foolish things".

    Ah see I heard it as "They say you killed a man", what you said makes a lot more sense, just further slandering of Light's good name by Wily.

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  • Fire TruckFire Truck I love my SELFRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    uh...but don't they say that Light killed a woman?

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  • Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I always assumed Joe was referring to Wily in Keep Quiet

    Wily is the only one who would have a metaphorical line for a dude to walk on the wrong side of

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  • Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Wait, shit the "men say foolish things" line

    Duh, okay

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  • Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    DE?AD wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure it's Joe talking to Light, though I'm also thinking it's just some random guy - as far as I can tell the lines are "They say you'd kill a man just for walking the wrong side of the line" followed by "but they say a lot of foolish things".

    Yeah, but he also says to come out and fight him.

    So unless he changes who he's talking to halfway through he's talking to Wily the whole time.

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  • Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    DE?AD wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure it's Joe talking to Light, though I'm also thinking it's just some random guy - as far as I can tell the lines are "They say you'd kill a man just for walking the wrong side of the line" followed by "but they say a lot of foolish things".

    Yeah, but he also says to come out and fight him.

    So unless he changes who he's talking to halfway through he's talking to Wily the whole time.

    He says "come out and fight" but not necessarily "fight me"

    If he means fight Wily then it actually makes OK sense

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  • ProjeckProjeck Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    so nobody has their physical copy

    that sucks!

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  • DichotomyDichotomy Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    if the first person to get their booklet were to transcribe it here I would be most grateful
    most grateful

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  • ProjeckProjeck Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    hey guys check this out
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