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New Protomen Album is out! Arguments kinda suck when they're not in Rock Opera format

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  • Grey GhostGrey Ghost Look at this fuck wizard right hereRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I always assumed Joe was referring to Wily in Keep Quiet

    Wily is the only one who would have a metaphorical line for a dude to walk on the wrong side of

  • Grey GhostGrey Ghost Look at this fuck wizard right hereRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Wait, shit the "men say foolish things" line

    Duh, okay

  • Speed RacerSpeed Racer I'm Speed Racer and I drive real fast. I drive real fast, I'm gonna last.Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    DE?AD wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure it's Joe talking to Light, though I'm also thinking it's just some random guy - as far as I can tell the lines are "They say you'd kill a man just for walking the wrong side of the line" followed by "but they say a lot of foolish things".

    Yeah, but he also says to come out and fight him.

    So unless he changes who he's talking to halfway through he's talking to Wily the whole time.

  • Grey GhostGrey Ghost Look at this fuck wizard right hereRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    DE?AD wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure it's Joe talking to Light, though I'm also thinking it's just some random guy - as far as I can tell the lines are "They say you'd kill a man just for walking the wrong side of the line" followed by "but they say a lot of foolish things".

    Yeah, but he also says to come out and fight him.

    So unless he changes who he's talking to halfway through he's talking to Wily the whole time.

    He says "come out and fight" but not necessarily "fight me"

    If he means fight Wily then it actually makes OK sense

  • ProjeckProjeck Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    so nobody has their physical copy

    that sucks!

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  • DichotomyDichotomy Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    if the first person to get their booklet were to transcribe it here I would be most grateful
    most grateful

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  • ProjeckProjeck Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    hey guys check this out
    whoops that terrible picture is huge

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  • Speed RacerSpeed Racer I'm Speed Racer and I drive real fast. I drive real fast, I'm gonna last.Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Spoiler:

    I dunno, looking at all of that together it really sounds to me like he's talking about Wily.

  • KnobKnob TURN THE BEAT BACK InternetSuper Moderator, Moderator mod
    edited September 2009
    what i was hearing was that light and wily built some robots

    then one of the robots kills emily (probably joe)

    light is put on trial for this, joe is imprisoned

    mainly because panther uses a really distinctive low voice for light, and breaking out is totally not in that voice

  • ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Knob wrote: »
    what i was hearing was that light and wily built some robots

    then one of the robots kills emily (probably joe)

    light is put on trial for this, joe is imprisoned

    mainly because panther uses a really distinctive low voice for light, and breaking out is totally not in that voice

    I'm pretty sure you're right knob.

    That said it would be really nice to have access to the booklet to see exactly how they meant it to be interpreted.

  • WallhitterWallhitter Registered User
    edited September 2009
    My god this album is fucking good.

    (Did anyone else picture Wily as (based off his voice and lines) the "clean-cut smiling bastard" sort of villain?)

    Oh, also, I got my mom to listen to Act I. Her favorite song is The Stand.

  • CantideCantide Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Wallhitter wrote: »
    My god this album is fucking good.

    (Did anyone else picture Wily as (based off his voice and lines) the "clean-cut smiling bastard" sort of villain?)

    Oh, also, I got my mom to listen to Act I. Her favorite song is The Stand.

    I see him the same way. In The Good Doctor he's all cheerful and friendly, trying to persuade Light how much better everything will be after they take power. And then in The Hounds he's downright jolly, because he knows he's already won.

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  • YaYaYaYa Rick and Morty forever and ever 100 years! a100timesRickandMorty.comRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    so

    Protomen Rock Band tracks

    somebody should really make that happen

  • ASimPersonASimPerson And they will tremble again at the sound of our silence.Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    When the Rock Band Network is kicked-off that would certainly be something that could happen!

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited September 2009
    I just love the delivery of the line in the hounds:

    What was her name.

    Doesn't matter.

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  • AMP'dAMP'd Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I love "You forget who turned this city on

    "YOU FORGET WHO PLUGGED THIS CITY IN"

    *solo*

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  • DE?ADDE?AD Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    My favorite series of lines is probably:

    So I learned to bend steel
    I learned how to make it move
    I watched as it withstood
    All the hell we put men through

  • DichotomyDichotomy Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    If there ever was a time
    if there ever was a chance
    to undo the things I've done and wash these bloodstains from my hands
    it has passed and been forgotten
    these are the paths that we must take
    'cause you and I, Tom, we are men
    and we can bend, and we can break

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  • FedoraFedora Registered User
    edited September 2009
    Oh my god I love this album, "The Fall", I didn't think anything could top the "Final Countdown", but there it is. It's the most perfect example of synthesizers and electric guitar solo's.

    It's the song you hear when you punch a high school bully in the face and then do a fist pump in mid air as the camera freezes.

  • DE?ADDE?AD Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    We will build cities in a day.
    (People would tremble at the sight!)
    We will be build towers to the sky.
    (Men were not meant for such a height!)
    We will be heroes!
    (We will build heroes!)

  • Fire TruckFire Truck Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Knob wrote: »
    what i was hearing was that light and wily built some robots

    then one of the robots kills emily (probably joe)

    light is put on trial for this, joe is imprisoned

    mainly because panther uses a really distinctive low voice for light, and breaking out is totally not in that voice

    I'm pretty sure you're right knob.

    That said it would be really nice to have access to the booklet to see exactly how they meant it to be interpreted.

    Yeah, this is more or less what I believe. Also, everyone is already quoting all of my favorite lines.

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  • Fire TruckFire Truck Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Fedora wrote: »
    Oh my god I love this album, "The Fall", I didn't think anything could top the "Final Countdown", but there it is. It's the most perfect example of synthesizers and electric guitar solo's.

    It's the song you hear when you punch a high school bully in the face and then do a fist pump in mid air as the camera freezes.

    hahaha

    Yes

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  • Speed RacerSpeed Racer I'm Speed Racer and I drive real fast. I drive real fast, I'm gonna last.Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    We've waited so long for this day!
    Someone to take the death away!
    No son will ever have to say
    their father worked into his grave!

    The lyrics themselves aren't anything too special, but something about the way they sound just makes me go "fuck yeah."

  • DichotomyDichotomy Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    after that monologue by Wily in The Hounds my favourite part of the album is the last two minutes of Here Comes The Arm

    Joe. When you see Emily, tell her to wait for me... 'cause I still have work to do.

    queue the music and the image of Light turning to a worktable and unveiling the blueprints for Proto Man

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  • Fire TruckFire Truck Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Breaking out confuses me, because the voice at the beginning sounds like Light to me, but then switches at some point during the song.

    I still like to assume that Here Comes the Arm is back to Light later in his life, after he's built Protoman and Megaman, revealing all of act two as his sad flashback when he realizes Megaman has gone off to fight Wily. He's despairing, then finds the letter from Emily and is like, "Ok, let's try this again."

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  • CantideCantide Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Fire Truck wrote: »
    Breaking out confuses me, because the voice at the beginning sounds like Light to me, but then switches at some point during the song.

    I still like to assume that Here Comes the Arm is back to Light later in his life, after he's built Protoman and Megaman, revealing all of act two as his sad flashback when he realizes Megaman has gone off to fight Wily. He's despairing, then finds the letter from Emily and is like, "Ok, let's try this again."

    I really hope this is true. Otherwise, the end of Act II is even more depressing than Act I.

    Listening to the song again, it does seem possible. Light's lines at the beginning - "A crowd has gathered here / Once again they fail to see / You can't just set the world at someone else's feet / And not get trampled underneath" would certainly fit Act I's massacre better than Act II's failed uprising.

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  • VeretasVeretas Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Get that shit outta here

  • DubhDubh BEST FRIENDS WITH FIRE Hudda!Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    it's like you guys don't even like Mega Man


  • Fire TruckFire Truck Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Koshian, what is this

    What are you doing

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  • Indie WinterIndie Winter Nattravnen Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    they will punish me for what he did to you
    but either way it's all my fault
    cause I made the man who laid his hand on you
    and I would tear him down, but I feel like a dead man
    what can a dead man do

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  • KoshianKoshian __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2009
    do you guys like my new sprite comic

    I'd like to credit the protomen, they were a big inspiration

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  • Grey GhostGrey Ghost Look at this fuck wizard right hereRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Cantide wrote: »
    Fire Truck wrote: »
    Breaking out confuses me, because the voice at the beginning sounds like Light to me, but then switches at some point during the song.

    I still like to assume that Here Comes the Arm is back to Light later in his life, after he's built Protoman and Megaman, revealing all of act two as his sad flashback when he realizes Megaman has gone off to fight Wily. He's despairing, then finds the letter from Emily and is like, "Ok, let's try this again."

    I really hope this is true. Otherwise, the end of Act II is even more depressing than Act I.

    Listening to the song again, it does seem possible. Light's lines at the beginning - "A crowd has gathered here / Once again they fail to see / You can't just set the world at someone else's feet / And not get trampled underneath" would certainly fit Act I's massacre better than Act II's failed uprising.

    I think it fits Act II's ending just fine, because it shows Light hasn't given up hope, he's still inspired by Emily's memory, and he's going to build a kick-ass robot

  • Fire TruckFire Truck Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Koshian, noooooooooooooooooooooooo

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  • Fire TruckFire Truck Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    Cantide wrote: »
    Fire Truck wrote: »
    Breaking out confuses me, because the voice at the beginning sounds like Light to me, but then switches at some point during the song.

    I still like to assume that Here Comes the Arm is back to Light later in his life, after he's built Protoman and Megaman, revealing all of act two as his sad flashback when he realizes Megaman has gone off to fight Wily. He's despairing, then finds the letter from Emily and is like, "Ok, let's try this again."

    I really hope this is true. Otherwise, the end of Act II is even more depressing than Act I.

    Listening to the song again, it does seem possible. Light's lines at the beginning - "A crowd has gathered here / Once again they fail to see / You can't just set the world at someone else's feet / And not get trampled underneath" would certainly fit Act I's massacre better than Act II's failed uprising.

    I think it fits Act II's ending just fine, because it shows Light hasn't given up hope, he's still inspired by Emily's memory, and he's going to build a kick-ass robot

    But if it's like how I think it is, then it's a kickass segue into Act III.

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  • SlyJokerSlyJoker Registered User
    edited September 2009
    After listening to Breaking Out and Keep Quiet a few times i'm convinced that light broke out of prison, left the city , tracked down his killer bot and disposed of it.
    The Other Dude as i'm calling him, left the city looking for light and heard that he had killed a man. Dunno if Joe is the bot or the other dude, but I think they are two separate people.

  • AbracadanielAbracadaniel COME ON AND DAN AND WELCOME TO THE DANRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    If Joe is a robot it's possible that Light figures out that he was tampered with, repairs the damage, and they ally together to stop Wily.


    Listening to The Hounds this morning, it makes me think that Light is out on the streets trying to find Emily's killer and discovers it was a reprogrammed Joe, all while Wily looks on via monitors and cameras.

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  • SlyJokerSlyJoker Registered User
    edited September 2009
    Smart Hero wrote: »
    If Joe is a robot it's possible that Light figures out that he was tampered with, repairs the damage, and they ally together to stop Wily.


    Listening to The Hounds this morning, it makes me think that Light is out on the streets trying to find Emily's killer and discovers it was a reprogrammed Joe, all while Wily looks on via monitors and cameras.

    After listening to Here Comes The Arm again it's clear that Joe is the dude who leaves the city in search of Light, Joe seems to have friends/family, or at least a girl hes leaving behind, just doesn't fit as the robot to me. And again, if Joe is the robot, then what man does he think Light killed?

  • Fire TruckFire Truck Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    SlyJoker wrote: »
    Smart Hero wrote: »
    If Joe is a robot it's possible that Light figures out that he was tampered with, repairs the damage, and they ally together to stop Wily.


    Listening to The Hounds this morning, it makes me think that Light is out on the streets trying to find Emily's killer and discovers it was a reprogrammed Joe, all while Wily looks on via monitors and cameras.

    After listening to Here Comes The Arm again it's clear that Joe is the dude who leaves the city in search of Light, Joe seems to have friends/family, or at least a girl hes leaving behind, just doesn't fit as the robot to me. And again, if Joe is the robot, then what man does he think Light killed?

    I still think Joe is talking to Wily in that song.

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  • SlyJokerSlyJoker Registered User
    edited September 2009
    Fire Truck wrote: »
    SlyJoker wrote: »
    Smart Hero wrote: »
    If Joe is a robot it's possible that Light figures out that he was tampered with, repairs the damage, and they ally together to stop Wily.


    Listening to The Hounds this morning, it makes me think that Light is out on the streets trying to find Emily's killer and discovers it was a reprogrammed Joe, all while Wily looks on via monitors and cameras.

    After listening to Here Comes The Arm again it's clear that Joe is the dude who leaves the city in search of Light, Joe seems to have friends/family, or at least a girl hes leaving behind, just doesn't fit as the robot to me. And again, if Joe is the robot, then what man does he think Light killed?

    I still think Joe is talking to Wily in that song.

    Really? in Breaking Out it seems Joe is searching for Light, if Keep Quiet is directed at Wily then who did he kill? And why would everyone in the city lock their doors at night for fear of Wily? To me it seemed like Wily ran the city from his tower, and Light was the demonized one, with the city turned against him. The beginning seems to illustrate this, and especially the last few lines of it seems more fitting to light than wily.



    I’ve seen your face in the shadows
    And I’ve seen your face in the places I wasn’t meant to be
    I’ve heard them whisper about you
    I’ve heard the men in the bars and I’ve seen the women lock their doors at night


    They say your world is on fire
    They say you killed a man for walking the wrong side of the line

    But men, they say a lot of foolish things
    And in the end the only words I can find to believe in are mine

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