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The Kanye West Appreciation Thread

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  • TehSlothTehSloth I'm so basic that when I drop acid I just get saltRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    zychi wrote: »
    saint2e wrote: »
    This thread is starting to turn truther-esque...

    "It couldn't just be that Kanye's a douchebag, the whole thing was an inside job!"

    It's clearly a publicity stunt, not like Bruno falling on Eminem setup, but where they knew how to play with the audience's emotions to get them talking about it. It's marketing 101.

    I was actually about to point this stunt out. Definitely not as obvious, but there were people who were sending me IMs of that clip the next day like, OMG can you believe that happened. I wouldn't have even known about this had people not been talking about it when I came in to work. I wouldn't have known The Jay Leno show is premiering tonight were it not for this, despite the absolutely ridiculous trailers they played in movie theaters.

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  • Venkman90Venkman90 Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Venkman90 wrote: »
    My only exposure to Kanye West is this article on Cracked.

    I thank him for inventing the phrase "Little Baby Tourettes".

    I linked that earlier...

    This isn't about you, it's about me.

    Your the Kanye to my Taylor...I like it

  • HalfmexHalfmex Matter of fact... I didn't even give you my coat!Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Yeah, it was pretty clearly staged. That doesn't mean Kanye isn't a pompous douche, but this particular event was clearly calculated to some degree.

  • QinguQingu Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    zychi wrote: »
    It's not an inside job, but it was clearly setup.
    Your thought process is fallacious.

    Just because people benefit from an event does not mean they must have planned said event.

    http://www.drury.edu/ess/Logic/Informal/Post_Hoc__Ergo_Propter.html

  • NarianNarian Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I agree with Kanye, Beyoncé > Taylor Swift.

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  • KalTorakKalTorak Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I think the awards said that too, since the Beyonce win category was bigger than the Swift win category.

  • ForarForar #432 Toronto, Ontario, CanadaRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Narian wrote: »
    I agree with Kanye, Beyoncé > Taylor Swift.

    But would you have the gall to verbally shit all over Taylor Swift during what should be a happy moment for her?

    I can't really speak to the music or videos of any of the above, but that doesn't mean I can't frown upon acting like a douchebag. I frown on that in general.

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  • PodlyPodly good moleman to youRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
  • ElkiElki GOBS OF PUKE!!! YES!!!!!!!Super Moderator, Moderator, ClubPA mod
    edited September 2009
  • tallgeezetallgeeze Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    How did I miss this thread? How did I not hear about this until now?

    Damn you busy Monday. Always getting in my way of goofing off at the job.

  • NarianNarian Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
  • PodlyPodly good moleman to youRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I hate mashups

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  • BubbaTBubbaT Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Forar wrote: »
    Narian wrote: »
    I agree with Kanye, Beyoncé > Taylor Swift.

    But would you have the gall to verbally shit all over Taylor Swift during what should be a happy moment for her?

    I can't really speak to the music or videos of any of the above, but that doesn't mean I can't frown upon acting like a douchebag. I frown on that in general.

    And then the girl Kanye was reppin for went and backed Swift over him. I didn't see Beyonce inviting Kanye's drunk dumb ass on stage.

    Kanye lost harder than Nas when Jay-Z got Beyonce and Nas ended up with Kelis.


    More disappointing than that though is hip-hop takes another high-profile L.

  • dlinfinitidlinfiniti Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    (i still like nas better) :(

    AAAAA!!! PLAAAYGUUU!!!!
  • zychizychi Registered User
    edited September 2009
    Qingu wrote: »
    zychi wrote: »
    It's not an inside job, but it was clearly setup.
    Your thought process is fallacious.

    Just because people benefit from an event does not mean they must have planned said event.

    http://www.drury.edu/ess/Logic/Informal/Post_Hoc__Ergo_Propter.html

    You clearly don't understand what I'm saying. Mtv makes money because these artists sell. They are on tv, which lets mtv get advertising, which a stunt like this, makes people watch mtv.

    I'm not saying the head honcho of mtv planned this(the inside job part), but it was clearly planned by beyonce's people, kanye's and taylor's(the setup part). This has nothing to do with the fact that Bill Walton eats meat thus he plays longer. It's the fact that it was staged from before the show even started. Which has nothing to do with what you are trying to link. Because they knew what they were doing, and the results of said "controversy."

    Controversy /= ratings, but in the case of the VMAs it always does.

    I don't understand why you think my thought process is fallacious, when it's blatantly obvious it was a stunt to get media attention. I'm pretty sure most of these artists know before hand that they won the award. Otherwise Beyonce, Eminem, and all of the "big name stars" wouldn't show up unless they had to promote something.

  • PodlyPodly good moleman to youRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    dlinfiniti wrote: »
    (i still like nas better) :(

    Can't really top Illmatic

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  • HenroidHenroid Nobody Nowhere fastRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Is it me, or does Kanye West always feel the need to "speak his mind" at someone else's expense?

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  • QinguQingu Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    zychi wrote: »
    Qingu wrote: »
    zychi wrote: »
    It's not an inside job, but it was clearly setup.
    Your thought process is fallacious.

    Just because people benefit from an event does not mean they must have planned said event.

    http://www.drury.edu/ess/Logic/Informal/Post_Hoc__Ergo_Propter.html

    You clearly don't understand what I'm saying. Mtv makes money because these artists sell. They are on tv, which lets mtv get advertising, which a stunt like this, makes people watch mtv.
    The fact that this is still your argument means that you clearly don't understand what I'm saying.

    There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that this was planned.

    The fact that the parties profited from the controversy does not count as "evidence" that they planned the controversy. That is a fallacy.

  • NarianNarian Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Podly wrote: »
    I hate mashups

    Your loss

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  • L|amaL|ama Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Kanye west is a gigantic asshole douche and either an idiot or a genius.

    This event, however, is hilarious and awesome.

  • Omega2112Omega2112 GW2 AKA: Robocow, Veristia Reaven Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Fuck Kayne West. He is why we cannot have nice things.

  • flamebroiledchickenflamebroiledchicken Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    On the one hand, I don't see what's so special about the Single Ladies video. On the other hand, fuck country music. I'm torn.

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  • dlinfinitidlinfiniti Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    taylor swift made me start listening to country music
    well it was a combination of her and carrie underwood
    are my ears broken?

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  • BubbaTBubbaT Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    This'll probably be a tough decision when it comes up on Flickchart

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    Also, Marsha A (from Floetry)'s reaction
    Spoiler:

    http://blogs.bet.com/music/soundOff/marsha-ambrosius-addresses-kanye-wests-vma-stunt-via-twitter/

  • Burden of ProofBurden of Proof You three boys picked a beautiful hill to die on. Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    What did Lil' Mama do?

  • Burden of ProofBurden of Proof You three boys picked a beautiful hill to die on. Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I feel like an idiot just typing that name.

  • NuckerNucker Registered User
    edited September 2009
    Kanye always projected a similar image as Puff Daddy, I thought. Sorry, Puffy.

    Sorry, P-Diddy.




    ...No, shit, sorry. Diddy.

    That same "I'm so fucking cool, I don't have to give a fuck what other people think about what I say or do so long as they hear or see me" attitude.

    Aside from that, though, a lot of people are right on the mark: he's doing it because it gets him attention. It got him plenty of attention, so really he wins.

  • BubbaTBubbaT Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    What did Lil' Mama do?

    Went on stage uninvited during a Jay-Z & Alicia Keys performance, refused to leave after Jay told her to, then when the 2 performers ended their song in a photo-op pose she horned in on the picture like Stereotypical Douche Guy At The Bar.

  • AnomolieAnomolie Registered User
    edited September 2009
    I just couldnt resist making this

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  • zychizychi Registered User
    edited September 2009
    Qingu wrote: »

    There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that this was planned.

    The fact that the parties profited from the controversy does not count as "evidence" that they planned the controversy. That is a fallacy.
    you obviously missed my post from before where I used the number of examples of "stunts" like this occuring.

    just because i'm too tired to post them all:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MTV_Video_Music_Awards#Notable_moments

    clearly, mtv never pushes for stunts like this to occur at their events.

    and it's not well known, but kanye pretty much acted like security guard a few years back during the show.
    # The next year, at the 2005 MTV Video Music Awards, while introducing the Reggaeton spot Fat Joe made a disparaging comment about G-Unit during a performance, "I'd like to tell the people home I feel so safe tonight with all this police protection courtesy of G-Unit..." Later in the show, after G-Unit's performance, 50 cent addressed the crowd with profanities directed at Fat Joe which were edited out before the shows airing although some broadcasts played the uncensored version of the show. Kanye West was shown, making sure nothing else would happen.

    the show is like a WWE show, it's all planned ahead of time, and it always has something going on that the media gets deep into.

    the fallacy going on in your statement is that i said that they profited and used it as evidence, no one has brought proof forward about that yet, i just said something along the lines of "i bet itunes downloads for these artists went up overnight." my evidence was what i said before about all the planned stunts that the media jumps on right away.

  • DarkWarriorDarkWarrior __BANNED USERS
    edited September 2009
    Tasteless image involving Kanye and the late, great Patrick Swayze, view at own risk.

    Spoiler:

    ...it's in the shape of a giant c**k.
  • HozHoz Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    No, that is perfect.

  • KageraKagera Imitating the worst people. Since 2004Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Oh snap Swayze croaked eh? :(

    My neck, my back, my FUPA and my crack.
  • WankWank Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    What with the Obama edit, I can almost see this becoming a meme.

    Kanye popping in on a couple having sex..."Now imma let you finish, but Beyonce's video was one of the greatest music videos of ALL TIME."

  • OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Wank wrote: »
    What with the Obama edit, I can almost see this becoming a meme.

    Kanye popping in on a couple having sex..."Now imma let you finish, but Beyonce's video was one of the greatest sex tapes of ALL TIME."
    It's got to be topical.

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  • QinguQingu Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    zychi wrote: »
    you obviously missed my post from before where I used the number of examples of "stunts" like this occuring.

    just because i'm too tired to post them all:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MTV_Video_Music_Awards#Notable_moments

    clearly, mtv never pushes for stunts like this to occur at their events.
    The link offers no support whatsoever that stunts like these are pre-planned.

    That is your assertion. You need to support it with evidence.
    and it's not well known, but kanye pretty much acted like security guard a few years back during the show.
    I fail to see how this supports your assertion that this ruckus was pre-planned.
    the show is like a WWE show, it's all planned ahead of time, and it always has something going on that the media gets deep into.
    This is your assertion. You are simply restating it.

    Now support it.
    the fallacy going on in your statement
    You still don't know what a fallacy is. You should read that site more closely.
    is that i said that they profited and used it as evidence, no one has brought proof forward about that yet, i just said something along the lines of "i bet itunes downloads for these artists went up overnight." my evidence was what i said before about all the planned stunts that the media jumps on right away.
    You cannot use your assertion—that the stunts are planned—as evidence. That is circular reasoning.

    And even if there were previous planned stunts, that in no way implies that this particular stunt was planned. Just as the existence of previous government conspiracies in no way implies that 9/11 was planned. And, similarly, the fact that Bush and co. profited (politically or otherwise) from 9/11 does not imply that they planned 9/11.

    I'm harping on this because it's important to know why this line of reasoning is flawed—because it is the kind of reasoning used by conspiracy theorists.

  • ElkiElki GOBS OF PUKE!!! YES!!!!!!!Super Moderator, Moderator, ClubPA mod
    edited September 2009
    Tasteless image involving Kanye and the late, great Patrick Swayze, view at own risk.

    Spoiler:

    It's actually funnier if you keep it about Beyonce's music video.

  • DarkWarriorDarkWarrior __BANNED USERS
    edited September 2009
    Elki wrote: »
    Tasteless image involving Kanye and the late, great Patrick Swayze, view at own risk.

    Spoiler:

    It's actually funnier if you keep it about Beyonce's music video.

    I dunno, each time I think its gotten old I look at it again and I can't stop giggling.

    ...it's in the shape of a giant c**k.
  • CheeselikerCheeseliker Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Elki wrote: »
    Tasteless image involving Kanye and the late, great Patrick Swayze, view at own risk.

    Spoiler:

    It's actually funnier if you keep it about Beyonce's music video.

    I agree.

  • 4U2NV4U2NV Registered User
    edited September 2009
    Kayne said that his only regret about performing on stage is that he could not himself witness his performance....

    I'm not making that up. He is the self proclaimed voice of this generation.

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