I would have less sympathy for WTO et al protesters if the cops weren't utter cockbags
I would have less sympathy for cops if the WTO et al protesters weren't utter cockbags
The protesters aren't abusing the powers afforded them by their job, nor do they benefit from a sickening presumption of innocence when they do all manner of heinous shit
The protesters are at least providing a useful service to society in baiting these sociopathic fucks into outing themselves.
No?
Black people do that. Protesters get beat up by good and bad cop alike.
Go jerk off to some corpse porn, casket
I'm just saying that in a protest, it's hard to see who is horrified by the violence and who is swinging the nightstick with maniacal glee
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CindersWhose sails were black when it was windyRegistered Userregular
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In other news, the Native American casinos are shooting off fireworks for some reason.
because they've got guns and tasers and don't have to improvi- oh what the hell am i doing thirty minutes ago you were posting hypothetically about chopping people up and throwing them into a fjord
we don't even have fjords, you can't comment on our cops
I'm just saying that in a protest, it's hard to see who is horrified by the violence and who is swinging the nightstick with maniacal glee
Sure but it extends beyond the line-cops
it's the higher ups who promulgate the use of less-lethal weapons as compliance devices instead of last-resort alternatives to shooting someone, or sign off on purchases like those god awful sonic canons.
And all that blue line bullshit that will cover the asses of the bad ones out theretear gassing people for standing around or curb-stomping people in the cover of a riot
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No they tear gas college kids exercising their right to peaceably assemble
much better
Your example? Yes. Burning gasoline stings just a tad more than tear gas.
But for serious, how bad are the cops about striking down on protests that are really legal and so on?
They basically do whatever the fuck they want because they're never punished appropriately for misconduct. Sometimes whatever they want is their job. Other times it involves tear gas before it's necessary. Other times it involves beating the shit out of random dudes on a bike. Other times it involves shooting helpless people. Depends on the cop. Really the solution is to punish them appropriately when they fuck up.
No they tear gas college kids exercising their right to peaceably assemble
much better
Your example? Yes. Burning gasoline stings just a tad more than tear gas.
But for serious, how bad are the cops about striking down on protests that are really legal and so on?
They basically do whatever the fuck they want because they're never punished appropriately for misconduct. Sometimes whatever they want is their job. Other times it involves tear gas before it's necessary. Other times it involves beating the shit out of random dudes on a bike. Other times it involves shooting helpless people. Depends on the cop. Really the solution is to punish them appropriately when they fuck up.
which will never happen because the united states has a great big hard-on for authority and an infantile view of right and wrong
I'm just saying that in a protest, it's hard to see who is horrified by the violence and who is swinging the nightstick with maniacal glee
Sure but it extends beyond the line-cops
it's the higher ups who promulgate the use of less-lethal weapons as compliance devices instead of last-resort alternatives to shooting someone, or sign off on purchases like those god awful sonic canons.
And all that blue line bullshit that will cover the asses of the bad ones out theretear gassing people for standing around or curb-stomping people in the cover of a riot
Yeah I agree with you, I was just making a stupid point that protesters aren't even good for showing who's the sadistic assholes
But for serious, how bad are the cops about striking down on protests that are really legal and so on?
Historically pretty bad. I know that here they were really heavy-handed when the G8 conference was at Gleneagles, but they're better about things like Faslane, probably because there has been a permanent protest camp there since the 70s.
It is considered so permanent that it has it's own postcode and BT ran broadband cable to it.
I'm just saying that in a protest, it's hard to see who is horrified by the violence and who is swinging the nightstick with maniacal glee
Sure but it extends beyond the line-cops
it's the higher ups who promulgate the use of less-lethal weapons as compliance devices instead of last-resort alternatives to shooting someone, or sign off on purchases like those god awful sonic canons.
And all that blue line bullshit that will cover the asses of the bad ones out theretear gassing people for standing around or curb-stomping people in the cover of a riot
Yeah I agree with you, I was just making a stupid point that protesters aren't even good for showing who's the sadistic assholes
oh
well then
carry on
ps I do not really think you are casket
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ElldrenIs a woman dammitceterum censeoRegistered Userregular
I'd generally consider CS gas, batons and water cannons to be at least equivalent to Molotov cocktails in any hypothetical escalation diagram.
do you really consider stinging eyes to be the equivalent of firebombs
really
rubber bullets = cocktails, maybe, because they both do lots of harm
You do realise that CS gas is quite capable of killing people through repiratory distress.
Also, on balance, I'm not sure there is much to choose from between being beaten unprotected with a blunt instrument and being firebombed while wearing armour.
First, jog and work out alot until you're good and sweaty. CS gas will burn wherever you're sweaty, that's why. Well inside the room, holding your breath, you're all going to say your name and service number out loud.
Now you know what that feels like. Now, you get a gas mask! glee!
But you don't get to put it on before the gas comes on. Oh no, you need to learn how to blow the gas out and how to quickly seal it properly.
Now you know that the gas masks fucking suck. Well, next time you're actually going to wear it before the gas comes on. How grand!
But you're going to have to eat this biscuit in there. So take it off, chew well, then put it on again and experience once again, that if this was sarin gas you should put your head beetween your knees and kiss your ass godbye instead of bothering with the mask
I'd generally consider CS gas, batons and water cannons to be at least equivalent to Molotov cocktails in any hypothetical escalation diagram.
do you really consider stinging eyes to be the equivalent of firebombs
really
rubber bullets = cocktails, maybe, because they both do lots of harm
You do realise that CS gas is quite capable of killing people through repiratory distress.
Also, on balance, I'm not sure there is much to choose from between being beaten unprotected with a blunt instrument and being firebombed while wearing armour.
I'd be beaten any day. Bruises heal, bones set. And people dying from CS gas is pretty rare. I'm just saying the police are actually trying in theory to minimize harm. You all live in civilized countries.
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I'm just saying that in a protest, it's hard to see who is horrified by the violence and who is swinging the nightstick with maniacal glee
because they've got guns and tasers and don't have to improvi- oh what the hell am i doing thirty minutes ago you were posting hypothetically about chopping people up and throwing them into a fjord
we don't even have fjords, you can't comment on our cops
I'd generally consider CS gas, batons and water cannons to be at least equivalent to Molotov cocktails in any hypothetical escalation diagram.
Your example? Yes. Burning gasoline stings just a tad more than tear gas.
But for serious, how bad are the cops about striking down on protests that are really legal and so on?
Sure but it extends beyond the line-cops
it's the higher ups who promulgate the use of less-lethal weapons as compliance devices instead of last-resort alternatives to shooting someone, or sign off on purchases like those god awful sonic canons.
And all that blue line bullshit that will cover the asses of the bad ones out theretear gassing people for standing around or curb-stomping people in the cover of a riot
All over.
It's a false equivalence. The protesters aren't walking around with state-sanctioned weapons and a lot of leeway to employ them the rest of the year
do you really consider stinging eyes to be the equivalent of firebombs
really
rubber bullets = cocktails, maybe, because they both do lots of harm
they should not be included on albums
They basically do whatever the fuck they want because they're never punished appropriately for misconduct. Sometimes whatever they want is their job. Other times it involves tear gas before it's necessary. Other times it involves beating the shit out of random dudes on a bike. Other times it involves shooting helpless people. Depends on the cop. Really the solution is to punish them appropriately when they fuck up.
The protesters are not responding to a large gathering of violent police.
teargas != firebombs
but having been gassed by the military during basic, I can attest that cs sucks mightily
which will never happen because the united states has a great big hard-on for authority and an infantile view of right and wrong
I am skipping through my itunes, deleting songs that suck
because I have too much shit I have not listened to yet
Yeah I agree with you, I was just making a stupid point that protesters aren't even good for showing who's the sadistic assholes
Historically pretty bad. I know that here they were really heavy-handed when the G8 conference was at Gleneagles, but they're better about things like Faslane, probably because there has been a permanent protest camp there since the 70s.
It is considered so permanent that it has it's own postcode and BT ran broadband cable to it.
oh
well then
carry on
ps I do not really think you are casket
having played with fire enough as a kid, I can say that getting burned fucking sucks and is also pretty dangerous
I was just making a point that protesters don't use less-lethal weapons
in other news I just can't wait until I get to be gassed by the military during basic next year. I'm having enough trouble cutting onions.
ehhh, I've seen more than a few of these things escalate to violence because of police aggression
mainstream reporting of these events tends to be just this side of outright propaganda
You do realise that CS gas is quite capable of killing people through repiratory distress.
Also, on balance, I'm not sure there is much to choose from between being beaten unprotected with a blunt instrument and being firebombed while wearing armour.
That's November.
I would be confused as to why the Seminole tribe was celebrating that holiday.
First, jog and work out alot until you're good and sweaty. CS gas will burn wherever you're sweaty, that's why. Well inside the room, holding your breath, you're all going to say your name and service number out loud.
Now you know what that feels like. Now, you get a gas mask! glee!
But you don't get to put it on before the gas comes on. Oh no, you need to learn how to blow the gas out and how to quickly seal it properly.
Now you know that the gas masks fucking suck. Well, next time you're actually going to wear it before the gas comes on. How grand!
But you're going to have to eat this biscuit in there. So take it off, chew well, then put it on again and experience once again, that if this was sarin gas you should put your head beetween your knees and kiss your ass godbye instead of bothering with the mask
*activates webcam*
I know when it is.
I was lying.
Would probably be dangerous.
I'd be beaten any day. Bruises heal, bones set. And people dying from CS gas is pretty rare. I'm just saying the police are actually trying in theory to minimize harm. You all live in civilized countries.
EDIT: Yes, even the americans
On the plus side, you can't really get into another fight with a better moral high ground
Substantiate your claim.
They're using batons instead of shotguns