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Flashforward. New show written by writer of Nick Fury and Blade Trinity
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I don't think the show will follow anything like the plot of the book, but this is the gist of it:
Lloyd sees himself sleeping with a woman other than his wife (fiancee at time of the FF) & Theo doesn't see anything because he was murdered shortly before the time people saw during the FF. So they both want to change the future, but Theo believes it is possible to change the outcome and Lloyd thinks it's set in stone. They're also trying to figure out why it happened. The first third of the book ends when they finally decide to re-run the experiment, but for some reason the FF is not reproduced.
The second third of the book takes place in the future around the time of the events people saw in the FF. They've learned that the future can change because people who had visions during the FF have died before they lived long enough to experience it. More importantly, a lot of technical advances have been made becauses of what people saw in the future. They also learn why the FF happened- there was a Tachyon burst at the same time as the initial experiment they ran and the combination of the two is what caused it. So they plan to run a second FF when the next Tachyon burst comes around.
The last section of the book deals with the second FF and afterwards. I forget how long it lasted, but it showed a much further glimpse of the future, so most people didn't see anything at all. Lloyd saw himself as a cyborg travelling through space a la the starchild from 2001. The MOSAIC organisation was founded by some rich guy who implanted people's memories into robotic bodies so they could live forever and explore the universe. He chose only the smartest people in the world for the program & Lloyd was chosen because he won a Nobel prize. However, the book ends with Lloyd turning the guy down because he didn't want to live forever if he couldn't spend it with his wife (lady he saw himself sleeping with in his original flash). The ending was quite lame.
So yeah, already the TV show is completely different. Instead of physicists and sub atomic particles causing the FF, we have Jack Bauer jr chasing after some shadowy organization behind it all.
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They've already stated that the season finale will not be April 29, 2010.
Interesting premise, but I'm not sure how you can get a whole show out of it without just becoming generic sit-com/24 knockoff/drama with a gimic.
"Go find your wife"
Followed immediately by him staring into the camera while running in slow motion to dramatic music. That was silly to the point of parody. I'm kind of intrigued by the concept though despite a couple really bad parts. It could really go either way but I'll keep watching for now.
Hm, is that so? Well it's got a pretty weak premise. But maybe it'll be better than it sounds
Or not
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Two comments on that topic:
1) I wonder what the draw to these are. I mean, we as a society still like them, but at their inception, they had a much more religious meaning.
Being on the Big 4 is basically a handicap these days. Your budget is too big to allow for smaller viewership, and your concepts can't be too smart or edgy for the Joe Sixpacks of the world. It's the TV equivalent of being a Summer blockbuster, and the good ones are the rare exception.
Right now, all the best, brightest, most-cutting edge and risk-taking shows are on small cable outlets and premium channels. Thank God NBC never actually acted on putting BSG in their line-up.
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This music is being (preemptively) removed from the public domain; it's being stolen from the people."
I also had a thought along the lines that they didn't flash forward, they all had their minds from the future sent back from even farther in the future. Time travel gets wacky. Guess I'll read the book to see how that played out.
The sensible thing would be to wrap the main arc up in one or two seasons. For future seasons, repeat the same arc (after all the point of the show is about knowing the future), but tell it from the perspective of a different group. The current cast could come in for the occasional cross-over.
On the other hand, it seems the flashforward caused some of the events they saw in the flashforward, which would imply they are already in a stable time loop.
Or the flashforward was sent from the future to bring about an alternate future past.
The place was empty. Kid had a room all for himself and the care of several surgeons. From the earlier scenes, I was expecting more chaos and death. There seemed to be dead bodies all over the place and kangaroos roaming the city. It's like they ignored this part of the story after they milked it for the shock value, in favor of the emotional and spiritual life of the characters. And lots of philosophical rambling.
Honestly, an event like this, which caused thousands of deaths in every single city and town in the world, which killed a significant fraction of humanity, would cause massive global panic and hysteria. It would almost be a breakdown of society. Driving through urban areas would be impossible, (and that alone would cause a huge amount of problems.) Buildings would be on fire. Stuff like that.
And then there's the knowledge everyone gained. This would fundamentally change society. For one thing, a great many people would know they'll be dead in six months.
/rant
That said, didn't the news reports and the little girl allude to a fair amount of forthcoming unrest?
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Beyond that, if they 'can't change the future' I stop watching instantly. Its ridiculous, he could change the future immediately. And, since they didn't see anything interesting the future they saw would be completely irrelevant. Honestly it seems that the whole plot is pointless.
The characters were good, and the shots were interesting, but I'm pretty sure they are just going to be stupid.
edit - PLANES DO NOT CRASH FOR NO REASON. They would just glide along in the air, and then their pilots would wake up. Small light aircraft might crash, since they don't have autopilots, but they don't just buzz about over downtown areas.
edit2 - The shot of London with the buildings all on fire is completely ABSURD. Where are all these fires coming from!
edit3 - Clearly if everyone blacked out and experienced that time in the future, then when that time in the future arrived most people would spend that minute thinking about the wierd thing that happened. And every newspaper would be reporting "This is the day we all flashed forward to"
edit4 - Any rational person would incinerate that friendship bracelet immediately. And thousands of people would all be busy destroying the things they had seen in the future instantly in order to prevent it happening. Yes, I get the feeling this is going to be far too annoyingly stupid to watch
I'd get a different haircut and a neck tattoo, though. Take that, future!
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I don't think modern auto-pilots will let you do that.
Also, if you are sitting down you probably won't fall forward unless you are pushed.
Yeah, on second though there is some serious Fridge Logic going on with the actual consequences of this event.
Yup, pass out in a small plane, and you will slump in your seat. Where you will be held firmly and upright by your three point seatbelt. Pass out at the controls of a large plane and you will slump in your seat, where you will be held firmly and upright by your seat belt. Even if for some obscure reason you are piloting a large plane, and are only wearing a lap belt then for 99% of the time the autopilot is on, and won't allow you to just bump into the controls.
Helicopters would probably crash, but how many helicopters are over your head right now?
Straight sections of highway would have pretty much nothing happen but a few low speed fender benders. If you take all your hands off the controls of a modern car and let your feet go limp, it would just coast to a stop. You might bump into people, but the loss of speed would be rapid and uniform across 99% of vehicles. On a turn you would have some problems, but again I think loss of speed would be enough to prevent serious accidents. There would be accidents at crossings of course, where out of control vehicles sped into collapsed peds.
Most people worldwide are asleep or at their desks. I would think the MASSIVE majority of actual casualties would be people who were on stairs. Even those surfers, most would be on top of their boards paddling out. If you just totally slump on a board where you were lying down, you won't fall off. Heck, I think there would be numerous countries that wouldn't even notice. THey would have either been asleep in the flash, or flashed forward to a time when they were asleep.
Like you say, fridge logic to the extreme. And if my friend had not had a vision of the future and thought that meant he was destined to die, I would absolutely show him the future was not set in stone by destroying the friendship bracelet in front of him. If my daughter made me another, I would get a tattoo on the same hand where I would clearly be able to see it.
Honestly, I would think that the people who would benefit most strongly from the event would be tattoo parlors!
"Didn't appreciate your flash forward? Change the future today by getting a tattoo on an area of skin you saw! With our new PERMAINK technology, even if you go for tattoo removal the scar will remain long past six months."
Damnit all of you are RUINING THIS FOR ME.
Let your feet go limp on the pedals of a car. The accelerator pushes your foot back off the gas, its how they are designed. Your hands would definately just fall off the wheel. You'd only be in danger if you were turning, or in a situation where you needed breaking. Furthermore, serious accidents require large speed discrepancies, if everyone on the highway simply began slowing down at the same speed, then the accidents would be not so serious.
edit - remember this happens to everyone at the same time. This means it becomes a collective motion, which means the danger is highly minimized.
Well, if some people have cruise control and other don't, that could be a problem.
But yeah, if you just stop control a car, it will basically slow down in a straight line. Which might lead to crashes in a lot of cases, especially in urban areas, but not the cars flipped upside down, cars on top of cars, fire everywhere way the show did it.
Yeah, the actual thing you'd see would be a massive fender bender accident everywhere from cars hitting each other at like 10 MPH.
edit - And cruise control on cars shuts off after a bump for the most part, so you'd get a crash between a car doing 65 and one doing 55 and slowing down. Neither would flip and burst into flame.
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My buddy and I FREAKED THE FUCK OUT when they showed Charlie(Dominic something, the guy who pulls off his mask in the upcoming preview, but according to imdb he plays a character named Simon) showed up. Apparently there are 2 other actors from Lost in the show all of three have
We are convinced that the two shows are intertwined being on ABC, somehow.
Anyone catch any of this?
God I hope it's not tied to lost in any way beyond simple amusement factor, then it can't be anything but a disaster since it will eventually demand I know things about lost.
You should watch Lost anyways, it's soooo good.
Back on topic, I loved the pilot, and will be DVR'ing until I can't stand the show anymore(see: heroes)
How long were they unconscious for? IIRC, it was like 5 minutes or something?
I think there would probably be a significant minority of cases where cars going 65 on cruise control slammed into something that had slowed to a stop or almost a stop.
But the opening scene with like people bleeding all over the place and some guy on fire and shit was completely overblown.
2 minutes 17 seconds. So I guess you would get a few 65 MPH with 0 MPH collisions from cars on cruise control.
I think they mentioned 2 minutes 17 seconds.
You won't lean on the wheel, your seatbelt will catch you if you slump forward rapidly. 95% of cars on the road are currently going in straight lines not changing lanes. The 5% of the remainder would be far more likely to hit the central reservation etc.
Why are you leaning on the car wheel?
The seatbelt will keep you body straight in the chair. Your arms will fall to your sides. Your foot will be pushed up off the accelerator/brake assuming it was on either one.
The car will simply slow down in a straight line. It will maybe hit something before it stops, deploying the airbag and so forth and possibly causing injury to anyone in it (whiplash, broken bones, that kind of thing). If you are going at urban speeds, 45 and underish, I am pretty certain that there is no way the car has enough kinetic energy to flip. Even if you are going fast enough, a straight on collision is not going to cause a flip. You would need to hit something in such a way as to create significant upwards motion on only one part of the car.
But yeah.. the amount of crazyness in the show is impossible and is obviously there to make the plot more interesting.
I think I would have used a shot of a group of people climbing stairs, people climbing big sets of steps would have gotten totally fucked up. Show a group of people walking up to the Lincoln memorial or something, or someone leaning over a balcony. Or even a plane in the process of landing. Taxiing planes might be dangerous too, show someone at LAX, then have them wake up as a 747 ploughs into the terminal at like 5 miles per hour.
Most modern autopilots also land planes too actually.
But a 747 plowing through a departure lobby would be cool.