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Closing Gitmo: Delays and Repercussions
Derrick
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"I think it has proven more complicated than anticipated," Gates said in an interview broadcast Sunday on CNN's "State of the Union."
http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/americas/09/27/cuba.guantanamo.closure/index.html
Gitmo's days are numbered, but exactly how close we are to an end to a national embarrassment is hard to say. What challenges are facing our government in closing this facility?
The first one that pops into my mind is the prison culture we have in America, if we're shipping those prisoners here to be detained. I'm certain that shipping them in with the general populace of maximum security inmates is a death sentence. So, special precautions would have to be taken. They'd have to remain out of general and have added security, etc. I don't see that going over well with conservative types. Even myself, as a moderate liberal, I think that would be a bit much. However, you've got 220 prisoners now to account for, and if they each to a different facility then MAYBE it would possible (if a pain in the ass) to do this. I don't see it possible if they're all sent to the same prison. I see most of them dying.
Another possibility is that some die, while others thrive. There's a not insignificant portion of inmates who are part of the black muslim movement. I wonder how that would give a charismatic muslim terrorist potential influence and power, in and out of prison?
And lastly, what if there simply isn't enough evidence to convict? Are we ready to accept the losses of American lives if we DO release terrorists (whether they were or not before they got there. I know with some of the shit that went down I'd be harboring some anti-American sentiment myself.) back into a warzone?
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As for the possibility of us not having enough evidence... Well, we're a country of laws. We follow those laws, or they're not worth respecting. If we don't have enough evidence to convict, then we try with what we do have, and if they go free, so be it. We live with the consequences of our actions, and letting our country act like tyrants locking people away forever without trial is going to have some pretty big consequences.
Me personally? No. Also it's important to note that I doubt any torturing (or waterboarding, if you differentiate the terms) is going on at Gitmo currently. What I'm saying is that the risk is real. How do we deal with it?
The same way we do with the rest of our suspected criminals. Accept that the system isn't perfect.
It's a pretty big decision to become a terrorist. I'd say there's an extremely high risk of falsely-detained people harboring anti-American sentiment for the rest of their lives and railing against the country whenever they can, but that's a far cry from detonating fertilizer bombs in civilian areas.
Also presumably return them to their country of origin, since they aren't american citizens
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Was that the actual reason, or was it for something more benign such as "they'd need protective custody".
You mean protection from other prisoners? It makes more sense.
The phrase "stealth jihad" gets thrown around a lot these days.