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Crazy [House] in the Crazy House
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Yep. Conflict of interest, etc.
This neo-feudalism would be more tolerable if our betters had fancy titles.
I don't like how fucking obvious it was that House's script writers just saw Ramachandran's TED speech and thought they should capitalize on it. Lame.
Otherwise, decent episode.
That is all.
I'M A TWITTER SHITTER
I just assumed they had read Phantoms in the Brain :o
That scene was the best thing ever.
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Riley: "You're a marsupial!"
Maddie: "I am a placental mammal!"
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I have no idea what you're talking about... >.>
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Concerning the ethical dilemma:
That said, major cahones all around for covering it up (or trying to). I'm not Foreman, but I probably would have done the same thing.
Now if that was all just a cock tease and they do away with Chase, I will be furious.
Yeah, the "What is this? 3 years ago?" thing made my night.
The ethical/moral dilemma was fantastic, and I think it was probably one of the better "stand alone" kind of episodes.
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Holy fucking shit what a great episode. JEJ was perfect, he was absolutely charismatic enough to believably convince Chase that there are times you must act, and that those acts must destroy your enemies.
"My condolences. Although... it's not like she's the hottest woman in the world, or anything."
I'M A TWITTER SHITTER
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Same with being a doctor.
no profession supersedes basic morality. You can argue that it wasn't a moral action, but you can't argue that because my job is this, that you have to act immorally. That is a ridiculous argument.
God forbid someone watches something else, learns from it, and decides to use it in their own work. That has, like, nothing to do with how human civilization has progressed for thousands of years.
I was trying to find a way to say this without being sarcastic, but I haven't run across the TED presentation that teaches you how to get rid of sarcasm without being incredibly boring.
Yes, yes you can. That's the point. That's why the ethics are so powerful. A priest who broke the seal of confession to turn in a murderer would get thrown out (well maybe, kinda). A lawyer who broke his confidentiality and turned in his own client would get disbarred or worse. A doctor who
And if you can't handle that, don't become a lawyer, priest, or doctor. Those ethical rules are there for a reason.
There are proper channels to handle these things. Being a vigilante and breaking your professional ethical obligations - which, yes, supersede everyday "normal person" ethical obligations - is always bad.
What you are describing is how society punishes people who break the rules of their profession, not one ethical obligation superseding another. Ethics don't change when you get a new job.
i'm done now. won't be back.
a doctor who kills people on purpose? Worst. Doctor. Ever.
He gambled with people's lives on the hopes that he'd never be found out and thus make the problem worse.
Totally saw the whole switch between Chase/Cameron coming though.
Chase acted unethically, and there's really no question about that. The oath he took when he became a doctor is perfectly clear, and he violated it. The oath is of utmost importance, and his violation thereof necessitates him losing his job and (depending on how things work, I don't know) spending time in prison.
Whether or not he acted *morally* is something we can argue about.
I for one would argue he acted morally and did the right thing as a human being, even though he clearly did the wrong thing as a doctor. His actions cannot be tolerated in a world where we want doctors to have the ability to act as they do, so he must face punishment, even if what he did was morally right.
House has been watching Dexter.
I too like the old team more. Hopefully they stick around. 13 can replace Foreman if they want to shake things up.
I can't think of any specific examples, but I'm fairly certain that House, or one of the other team members, have faked tests before in order to convince Cuddy to let them use some radical treatment on a patient whom they couldn't prove had the problem they said they did. The only difference here is that Chase didn't actually think that dudeman had Disease B, and he could have actually performed the test that he said he did.
It would have been funny, though less dramatic, if it turned out dudeman actually had Disease B and the faked test saved his life. Maybe that's how they'll save Chase: the autopsy will reveal that he actually had Disease B and that their treatment was too late to save him, so the ambassador from Unnamed African Nation will demand Foreman lose his license for treating dudeman for Disease A.
You said "you can't argue that because my job is this, that you have to act immorally." I think I've pretty clearly illustrated that YES, you sometimes DO have to act "immorally." Priests can't turn in murderers who have confessed their sin under the seal of the confessional. Lawyers can't betray client-lawyer confidentiality, even to prevent a crime. And doctors can't betray his medical ethics and kill his patient, even in the circumstances of this TV show.
And as a society, we have decided that this is the best way to function, as a whole. (Hence, the laws preventing vigilantism, breaking lawyer privilege, protecting religious confidentiality, and establishing medical ethics.)
One must supersede the other, though. Either the ethics of your profession or your personal morality. When push comes to shove, one wins out or the other. Though most of the time, they fall hand in hand (for doctors at least, probably not as much for criminal defense attorneys) - but on rare occasions, they don't, and one has to win.
I think that most of us understand the difference here, it's just that some people think that, ultimately, personal morality comes first, and others (like, say, OUR LAW MAKERS) believe that professional ethics come first. I'm firmly in the professional ethics-comes-first-crowd.
Chase doesn't think that far ahead.
Presumably, but they had a throwaway line at the end about how
I'm pretty sure a lawyer can't recuse himself after a certain point in the case, right? (At least not without a legal cause, like, say, a conflict of interest(?) or something. But a lawyer can't recuse himself because he believes his client is guilty, for example.)
No, he did.
Oh, I interpreted that as the rantings of an old, angry man in a hospital on the edge of death. I didn't think that his cabinet was actually weak.