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[chat] Man Will Not Die

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  • monikermoniker Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Tav wrote: »
    oh neat

    the blasphemy laws come into effect here as of today

    anything blasphemous can now lead to a €25,000 fine

    Citizen's arrest the prime minister for wearing cloth woven of different fabrics. He blasphemes against God and Mosaic law!

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  • ElkiElki hegemon globalSuper Moderator, Moderator, ClubPA mod
    edited January 2010
    MikeMan wrote: »
    so hard with my girls not around me

    it's definitely not a Nashville party

    I'm at the house, all alone. My roommates are spending the holidays with their bfs.

  • PasserbyePasserbye The Woman Who Is Not Short at The Moonlite All-Nite Diner; a glass box full of bad food and good people.Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Tav wrote: »
    Blasphemy laws?

    What the fuck? Where do you live? 1630s Massachusetts?

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jan/01/irish-atheists-challenge-blasphemy-law

    From the little bit of info they give there it seems like they're just extending what the 1936 constitution already did for Christianity. Doesn't seem much different than American laws regarding hate speech.

  • japanjapan Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Tav wrote: »
    I'd post the cover of Marduk's Fuck Me Jesus if it wouldn't get me infracted. Rumour has it the t-shirts of it are going up in price atm.

    Someone should publish something about being sexually attracted to Jesus Christ so that it has to be argued in court whether or not it is blasphemous to want to have sex with a religious figure.

  • japanjapan Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Passerbye wrote: »
    Tav wrote: »
    Blasphemy laws?

    What the fuck? Where do you live? 1630s Massachusetts?

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jan/01/irish-atheists-challenge-blasphemy-law

    From the little bit of info they give there it seems like they're just extending what the 1936 constitution already did for Christianity. Doesn't seem much different than American laws regarding hate speech.

    Doesn't hate speech have to be directed at people though?

  • monikermoniker Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    japan wrote: »
    Tav wrote: »
    I'd post the cover of Marduk's Fuck Me Jesus if it wouldn't get me infracted. Rumour has it the t-shirts of it are going up in price atm.

    Someone should publish something about being sexually attracted to Jesus Christ so that it has to be argued in court whether or not it is blasphemous to want to have sex with a religious figure.

    Now I want to post that scene from The Exorcist, except I also don't want to get banned.

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  • VariableVariable Ted Hitler Stroke Me Lady FameRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    are there any good/cheap puzzle game packs on steam? that seems worth it.

    edit - oh hell yest he doom pack is on sale. that's something I've been hoping for.

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  • ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    God seems to get butthurt easily

    he should work on that

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  • IncenjucarIncenjucar QA Tester -> Game Producer Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Sweet, waking up to Mass Effect being $5 is not bad.

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  • PasserbyePasserbye The Woman Who Is Not Short at The Moonlite All-Nite Diner; a glass box full of bad food and good people.Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    japan wrote: »
    Passerbye wrote: »
    Tav wrote: »
    Blasphemy laws?

    What the fuck? Where do you live? 1630s Massachusetts?

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jan/01/irish-atheists-challenge-blasphemy-law

    From the little bit of info they give there it seems like they're just extending what the 1936 constitution already did for Christianity. Doesn't seem much different than American laws regarding hate speech.

    Doesn't hate speech have to be directed at people though?

    A religious group is still seen as 'people'.

    Seems like the Irish should reword the law, though. If what they've got quoted there is accurate to what the law actually says. As it's worded now it's just going to cause problems.

  • NerdgasmicNerdgasmic __BANNED USERS regular
    edited January 2010
    Elki, do you dance professionally?

    @nealcm @faynor
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  • StarcrossStarcross Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    In what is likely to be the all time highlight of my crappy call centre job, I was dealing with the card belonging to a Mr. K. Kong today.

  • PasserbyePasserbye The Woman Who Is Not Short at The Moonlite All-Nite Diner; a glass box full of bad food and good people.Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    moniker wrote: »
    japan wrote: »
    Tav wrote: »
    I'd post the cover of Marduk's Fuck Me Jesus if it wouldn't get me infracted. Rumour has it the t-shirts of it are going up in price atm.

    Someone should publish something about being sexually attracted to Jesus Christ so that it has to be argued in court whether or not it is blasphemous to want to have sex with a religious figure.

    Now I want to post that scene from The Exorcist, except I also don't want to get banned.

    I still haven't seen that movie.

  • JustinSane07JustinSane07 __BANNED USERS regular
    edited January 2010
    I just realized you can't access PATV from the main page yet.

    That seems like a rather large blunder.

  • IncenjucarIncenjucar QA Tester -> Game Producer Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Elendil wrote: »
    God seems to get butthurt easily

    he should work on that

    He smites his therapists.

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  • japanjapan Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Elendil wrote: »
    God seems to get butthurt easily

    he should work on that

    Lack of self esteem, obviously. Just look at all the melodramatic attention seeking and insistence that everybody love him.

    "Love me or you're getting the locusts again."

    It's like a two year old holding their breath because they aren't getting their way.

  • VariableVariable Ted Hitler Stroke Me Lady FameRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    shit all the sam and max games too today. don't know if that's something I'd like but it's a good price.

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  • PasserbyePasserbye The Woman Who Is Not Short at The Moonlite All-Nite Diner; a glass box full of bad food and good people.Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I just realized you can't access PATV from the main page yet.

    That seems like a rather large blunder.

    You can access it from the main comic page. Bottom right corner.

  • monikermoniker Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Passerbye wrote: »
    moniker wrote: »
    japan wrote: »
    Tav wrote: »
    I'd post the cover of Marduk's Fuck Me Jesus if it wouldn't get me infracted. Rumour has it the t-shirts of it are going up in price atm.

    Someone should publish something about being sexually attracted to Jesus Christ so that it has to be argued in court whether or not it is blasphemous to want to have sex with a religious figure.

    Now I want to post that scene from The Exorcist, except I also don't want to get banned.

    I still haven't seen that movie.

    I'd go all D: except that there are still some classics that I've yet to see. To Netflix!



    Have you watched Wait Until Dark? Because if not you should pop it into the DVD player and curl up with Dyrwen.

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  • KalkinoKalkino Buttons Londres Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Man, wtf? I just went to do a search and it appears bing.com has a background photo selector, which in this case happens to be the Moeraki Boulders, which is about 3km from where I spent a lot of my childhood in New Zealand. Freaky coincidence, unless Bing has somehow got the inside track about my life

    Freedom for the Northern Isles!
  • japanjapan Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Passerbye wrote: »
    A religious group is still seen as 'people'.

    Seems like the Irish should reword the law, though. If what they've got quoted there is accurate to what the law actually says. As it's worded now it's just going to cause problems.

    It seems like it should be possible to criticise an organisation without necessarily criticising its individual members, though.

    I wouldn't have thought that, for example, "the catholic church" was necessarily the same thing as "all catholics".

  • IncenjucarIncenjucar QA Tester -> Game Producer Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Abrahamic religion does tend to depict and lead to a lot of really childish behavior.

    See: The Middle East, The South, etc.

    Buddhism strikes me as slightly more adult, but also suffers from the issue of being all about being in denial.

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  • wazillawazilla Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Elendil wrote: »
    God seems to get butthurt easily

    he should work on that

    He went after Sodom first.

  • monikermoniker Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Kalkino wrote: »
    Man, wtf? I just went to do a search and it appears bing.com has a background photo selector, which in this case happens to be the Moeraki Boulders, which is about 3km from where I spent a lot of my childhood in New Zealand. Freaky coincidence, unless Bing has somehow got the inside track about my life

    Do an image search for 'future wife.' :winky:

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  • TavTav Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    There isn't enough information going around about the laws for me to know exactly what they entail, but I dislike them no matter how restrictive/lax they are. Whoever wrote this makes a pretty valid point.
    But as of today in the Irish Republic–a nation known for its poets, authors, musicians and artists, a nation which has had tens of thousands of its citizens beset upon by pedophile priests who’ve now been ordered to pay $242 million in victims’ aid to the children they raped, and nuns who systematically abused children and have since offered to pay$193 million in restitution–blasphemy is punishable by a € 25,000 fine–about $40,000.

    Really, the first people who should be fined for blasphemy are those who use the church as shield as they committed crimes against children and their flocks as whole. And fine those who covered up the abuse as well. I can think of no greater blasphemies. But alas, instead this law could and sadly will be used by anyone who is offend by the printing of “Godammit, Christ on cracker, Holy Buddha’s toenail, my sister-in-law is such a witch, and here’s drawing of her next to the Prophet” or any publication–and by extrapolation, broadcast– of jokes about whatever faith one chooses to laugh at.

    I mean, the Church actively protects pedophiles and I'm supposed to not call them a shower of cunts?

  • JustinSane07JustinSane07 __BANNED USERS regular
    edited January 2010
    Passerbye wrote: »
    I just realized you can't access PATV from the main page yet.

    That seems like a rather large blunder.

    You can access it from the main comic page. Bottom right corner.

    Yeah sure if you turn off AdBlock Plus but I'm not about to do that.

  • ElkiElki hegemon globalSuper Moderator, Moderator, ClubPA mod
    edited January 2010
    Nerdgasmic wrote: »
    Elki, do you dance professionally?

    No. I like it this way.

  • PasserbyePasserbye The Woman Who Is Not Short at The Moonlite All-Nite Diner; a glass box full of bad food and good people.Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    japan wrote: »
    Passerbye wrote: »
    A religious group is still seen as 'people'.

    Seems like the Irish should reword the law, though. If what they've got quoted there is accurate to what the law actually says. As it's worded now it's just going to cause problems.

    It seems like it should be possible to criticise an organisation without necessarily criticising its individual members, though.

    I wouldn't have thought that, for example, "the catholic church" was necessarily the same thing as "all catholics".

    I agree, but there's a difference between criticism (which is fine) and outright threats against or incitements to attack a particular religion. I think the law is referring to this latter issue.

  • WashWash Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    The main girl in Ferris Bueller's Day Off should have been in more movies. I've only seen her in that and Time Cop, and wow was she beautiful.

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  • KalkinoKalkino Buttons Londres Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    moniker wrote: »
    Kalkino wrote: »
    Man, wtf? I just went to do a search and it appears bing.com has a background photo selector, which in this case happens to be the Moeraki Boulders, which is about 3km from where I spent a lot of my childhood in New Zealand. Freaky coincidence, unless Bing has somehow got the inside track about my life

    Do an image search for 'future wife.' :winky:

    I am sorely tempted

    Freedom for the Northern Isles!
  • DynagripDynagrip destroy everything you touch Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited January 2010
    Elki wrote: »
    MikeMan wrote: »
    so hard with my girls not around me

    it's definitely not a Nashville party

    I'm at the house, all alone. My roommates are spending the holidays with their bfs.

    Maybe a Jay-Z song will come on the radio and cheer you up.

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  • VariableVariable Ted Hitler Stroke Me Lady FameRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    The main girl in Ferris Bueller's Day Off should have been in more movies. I've only seen her in that and Time Cop, and wow was she beautiful.

    sloan peterson

    I wonder what her real name was.

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  • IncenjucarIncenjucar QA Tester -> Game Producer Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Threats against human beings are already covered, are they not?

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  • monikermoniker Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Passerbye wrote: »
    I just realized you can't access PATV from the main page yet.

    That seems like a rather large blunder.

    You can access it from the main comic page. Bottom right corner.

    Yeah sure if you turn off AdBlock Plus but I'm not about to do that.

    It'd be nice if you could tune ad-block to just block out the annoying ones. I rather like the fact that advertising lets me enjoy 'free' content and all the pleasures and horrors of the internets...but some of those flash ads just make me want to just start slapping people on Madison Avenue.

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  • PasserbyePasserbye The Woman Who Is Not Short at The Moonlite All-Nite Diner; a glass box full of bad food and good people.Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Incenjucar wrote: »
    Threats against human beings are already covered, are they not?

    I don't know.

    In America no one will arrest you for spreading the idea that all Catholic Priests are evil child rapists who should be murdered, even though there are some fringe Baptists who would love to be able to do this given half a chance. Maybe the Irish law is something about these kinds of statements which aren't against a specific, particular group, but rather a more general group?

  • monikermoniker Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Variable wrote: »
    The main girl in Ferris Bueller's Day Off should have been in more movies. I've only seen her in that and Time Cop, and wow was she beautiful.

    sloan peterson

    I wonder what her real name was.

    Mia Sara

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  • japanjapan Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Passerbye wrote: »
    japan wrote: »
    Passerbye wrote: »
    A religious group is still seen as 'people'.

    Seems like the Irish should reword the law, though. If what they've got quoted there is accurate to what the law actually says. As it's worded now it's just going to cause problems.

    It seems like it should be possible to criticise an organisation without necessarily criticising its individual members, though.

    I wouldn't have thought that, for example, "the catholic church" was necessarily the same thing as "all catholics".

    I agree, but there's a difference between criticism (which is fine) and outright threats against or incitements to attack a particular religion. I think the law is referring to this latter issue.

    I'm trying to find the text, but it seems to outlaw anything insulting or liable to cause outrage. In my experience it is often remarkably easy to insult or outrage religious people.

    See Tav's "Fuck me Jesus" example.

  • WashWash Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Variable wrote: »
    The main girl in Ferris Bueller's Day Off should have been in more movies. I've only seen her in that and Time Cop, and wow was she beautiful.

    sloan peterson

    I wonder what her real name was.

    Mia Sara.

    And she's from Brooklyn.

    That seems to be where all the celebs I want to bang grow up.

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  • IncenjucarIncenjucar QA Tester -> Game Producer Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Passerbye wrote: »
    Incenjucar wrote: »
    Threats against human beings are already covered, are they not?

    I don't know.

    In America no one will arrest you for spreading the idea that all Catholic Priests are evil child rapists who should be murdered, even though there are some fringe Baptists who would love to be able to do this given half a chance. Maybe the Irish law is something about these kinds of statements which aren't against a specific, particular group, but rather a more general group?

    Does the law cover, say, the Elk's Club?

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  • PasserbyePasserbye The Woman Who Is Not Short at The Moonlite All-Nite Diner; a glass box full of bad food and good people.Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    japan wrote: »
    Passerbye wrote: »
    japan wrote: »
    Passerbye wrote: »
    A religious group is still seen as 'people'.

    Seems like the Irish should reword the law, though. If what they've got quoted there is accurate to what the law actually says. As it's worded now it's just going to cause problems.

    It seems like it should be possible to criticise an organisation without necessarily criticising its individual members, though.

    I wouldn't have thought that, for example, "the catholic church" was necessarily the same thing as "all catholics".

    I agree, but there's a difference between criticism (which is fine) and outright threats against or incitements to attack a particular religion. I think the law is referring to this latter issue.

    I'm trying to find the text, but it seems to outlaw anything insulting or liable to cause outrage. In my experience it is often remarkably easy to insult or outrage religious people.

    See Tav's "Fuck me Jesus" example.

    I think it's about large scale 'angrytime' reactions from the community, but yeah, it should be reworded so that the intent is clearer and so easier to examine and, if need be, change again.

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