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Following the Last Lion: MA Senate Elections
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Good, maybe he really is realizing he was just elected by Massachusetts.
Looks like the President and Senate are rolling over to play fetch. They won't do anything concerning Healthcare until Brown is seated.
What. The. Fuck?
I'm going to hope he just bought into the stupid fearmongering and is actually rational enough to support the bill once he reads it. He didn't go off on a talking point tangent when asked for his positions, just those two things.
And Lieberman is a big jerk so.
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There are definitely more Dems than just Lieberman that don't support the bill. The difference is, Reid or Pelosi threatened them and they gave in rather than standing by their convictions.
But...but that's how a two party system works.
Lieberman isn't technically a Dem anymore. They let him hang out with them because they need his vote.
But yeah, they definitely shouldn't expect him to just shut up and vote, especially since Connecticut keeps electing him.
If that's how it was supposed to work then we would vote "democrat or republican" each congressional election and we would just pass every bill the winner wanted for a couple of years.
The reason you have the various leaders in congress is to attempt to get the parties in line; the very fact that they exist assumes that that is not always going to happen.
I for one would love a parliamentary-style coalition government.
It would probably be a boon.
We'd be able to actually see how big/small the various "fringe" groups actually are. It also provides for a more effective means of setting "party policy", as you know how many of the members are "far-left" versus "moderate left", etc.
The only thing I can think, is that what was REALLY important to him was restoring the presidency and the office of the president to being secondary in power to the other branches of government. If thats the case he is doing fine by his own standards, but if he truly believes that the Senate and House in their current state are fit to lead then it's absurd.
so was bush
that's because he wanted to screw over the country, screwed over the country, and loved every minute of it
What threats? They didn't threaten to take away his committee positions and they didn't threaten to kick him out of the caucus.
No, I am not really communist. Yes, it is weird that I use this name.
maybe not in that phrasing, but it was the basic thrust of everything he did
I think it is becoming apparent to Obama that Pelosi (who has been in the house since the end of the Reagan days) does not respect his input, and that he only leads half of what has become a two party party. Just as the Republican party has split into neocon and libertarian halves, the democratic party has split into green socialist and reform populist halves.
We're halfway to a party split. The problem is that neither side, on either party, wants to be the side that gives up the name, because the name will live, and the splinter party won't.
The socialists won't jump the democratic party and vote green because they'll be cut out. Likewise, the populists won't vote reform (or libertarian) because they'll likewise be cut out, and the neocons are incapable of contemplating taking another name because Reagan was a Republican.
We have a three party population that is trying to wrestle for control of two names. The moderate swing will become more and more powerful and more anti-incumbent until a persona appears with the capacity to lead a credible third party that can actually organize itself. When it happens it will be because of social media and it will happen very fast.
But Bush was an idiot. His goals were to invade Iraq, build more guns, and push a Christian agenda. He was doing all those things. It made sense why he was happy, since you could see him working towards making his goals happen.
The only goal Obama seems to be pushing, is the goal of limiting the powers of the president.
Err, assuming I did believe that this Health Bill "Expanded the powers of the blah blah" he isn't even working hard to push that! He's not busy interfering in the running of the banks, or demanding cruel repayment schedules. He's not enforcing his powers over the motor companies. He's not passing sweeping proclamations against the will of the people, or repealing popular policies.
This is the dumbest, least-connected-to-reality analysis I've seen since I turned on Fox News one time.
Yes, because allowing banks to skim 10 billion dollars a year guaranteed off of students trying to pursue an education is wonderful.
Its like a parody of a bad op-ed.
"Blah blah blah extremist liberals blah blah blah NANCY PELOSI blah blah blah moderates are great blah blah blah."
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True. I don't think he cared about Americans at all. I think he woke up every day wondering how he can make his buddies and himself even more powerful and rich.
Yeah, it is pretty wonderful. That's just business, man. And I can almost guarantee that I have more student loans than anyone here.
And don't act like the government is going to offer 0% interest rates or something. Please.
They can, however, always offer a lower rate then a private company.
Which sounds good to me.
Here is the current situation:
1) Banks make loans to students.
2) Government guarantees those loans to the banks.
3) Government subsidizes those loans to the banks.
4) Banks hike interest rates on students.
There is no risk to the banks, it's just free money! The government is providing the loans, but there is a bizarre middle man because the banks own a bunch of Senators.
It's not business, it's corporate welfare. Which is interestingly something a large majority of the "free market" believers support in this country.
It's just business, man! Free market! Free market! Those kids can just take those loans elsewhere!
Even though I know you are being facetious, I feel an urge to stab somebody in the face with my pen. There are a sizable number of people in this country who would nod their heads in serious agreement.