Fallen [Chat]: Legions

Kagera · February 2010

Irond Will wrote: »

moniker wrote: »

Sarksus wrote: »

But you guys must see what I see, right? You must see all of the people on these forums who rely on their novels when they're discussing science, right? All of the people who talk about science knowingly but actually have no idea? It happens all the time. Part of the reason why I left for three months was because I had found a better place to learn about the scientific fields which interested me.

...that's true on every topic. I've got over 40k posts here, and I'm barely past functionally retarded on a whole mess of topics whose threads have a blue dot in them. Caveat Emptor reigns supreme in the marketplace of ideas.

i guess it would be like if I and everyone else on this forum were agitating for basing our architecture on ice because that guy in the james bond movie totally made a castle out of ice, moniker.

Don't forget that one hotel that's made out of ice.

Jacobkosh · February 2010

Elki I am watching this thing and I don't mind the faux-documentary style thing at all, although you should know that I am predisposed to like that sort of thing.

Of course if you hadn't mentioned it I wouldn't have known that it was faux

moniker · February 2010

Irond Will wrote: »

moniker wrote: »

Sarksus wrote: »

But you guys must see what I see, right? You must see all of the people on these forums who rely on their novels when they're discussing science, right? All of the people who talk about science knowingly but actually have no idea? It happens all the time. Part of the reason why I left for three months was because I had found a better place to learn about the scientific fields which interested me.

...that's true on every topic. I've got over 40k posts here, and I'm barely past functionally retarded on a whole mess of topics whose threads have a blue dot in them. Caveat Emptor reigns supreme in the marketplace of ideas.

i guess it would be like if I and everyone else on this forum were agitating for basing our architecture on ice because that guy in the james bond movie totally made a castle out of ice, moniker.

You mean like the ice hotel does?

Rust · February 2010

Kagera wrote: »

Irond Will wrote: »

moniker wrote: »

Sarksus wrote: »

But you guys must see what I see, right? You must see all of the people on these forums who rely on their novels when they're discussing science, right? All of the people who talk about science knowingly but actually have no idea? It happens all the time. Part of the reason why I left for three months was because I had found a better place to learn about the scientific fields which interested me.

...that's true on every topic. I've got over 40k posts here, and I'm barely past functionally retarded on a whole mess of topics whose threads have a blue dot in them. Caveat Emptor reigns supreme in the marketplace of ideas.

i guess it would be like if I and everyone else on this forum were agitating for basing our architecture on ice because that guy in the james bond movie totally made a castle out of ice, moniker.

Don't forget that one hotel that's made out of ice.

no, let's forget about that hotel

let's just try to forget that hotel so hard it disappears

anyone who wants to spend more than five minutes in a building made of ice and isn't in danger of freezing to death otherwise is just

silly

electricitylikesme · February 2010

Jacobkosh wrote: »

electricitylikesme wrote: »

Jacobkosh wrote: »

Elldren wrote: »

What about actual accomplishable, useful shit that we see in science fiction that aren't silly space operas? Like bionics or fusion power or improved pharmaceuticals?

I saw something on National Geographic where they gave this old woman a bionic eye

Like, an actual working bionic eye. They replaced her cornea with a low-res webcam, basically. For the first time in 50 years she can find her way around the house without holding on to the walls. It was amazing.

And fusion - I pray every day that that will happen. It would totally upend almost every paradigm we have.

I think if battery electric vehicles gain any kind of acceptance it'll be kind of a big deal. I'm hoping what Toyota started with the Prius gets followed through in the next few years with fully electric vehicles. The death of the EV-1 is a sad, sad thing because that car was waaaaaaay ahead of its time, and awesome.

I haven't really followed the battery car thing in any great depth. Do you have anything you can recommend to me?

Chevy Volt, if it works, is probably the next big step - essentially a plugin hybrid which can run as an EV for an extended period. 40 miles is kind of a big deal since it covers people's entire commute.

Daxon · February 2010

Jacobkosh wrote: »

Elldren wrote: »

What about actual accomplishable, useful shit that we see in science fiction that aren't silly space operas? Like bionics or fusion power or improved pharmaceuticals?

I saw something on National Geographic where they gave this old woman a bionic eye

Like, an actual working bionic eye. They replaced her cornea with a low-res webcam, basically. For the first time in 50 years she can find her way around the house without holding on to the walls. It was amazing.

And fusion - I pray every day that that will happen. It would totally upend almost every paradigm we have.

What, in her actual eye? I think I saw a discovery channel thing where they had a camera in this dude's sunglasses that sent information to a chip in his visual cortex. I am happy robot-human integration grows closer <3

Kagera · February 2010

Hey guys remember that time all those Romans were like 'we don't wanna get raided by barbarians we're going to live on a lagoon' and then people said 'you retards you can't make buildings on a lagoon' and then POW Venice?

Yeah, that was pretty tight.

Irond Will · February 2010

Rust wrote: »

moniker wrote: »

Rust wrote: »

Variable wrote: »

kotor made me want an apartment on a spaceship.

I think it was that game. the first? probably...

space housing would basically guarantee we could never ever go back to earth or anywhere with comparable gravity

unless we developed some kind of gravity generator, which is patently impossible because apparently gravity is like the fucking black box of the universe

You mean spinning?

if centrifugal force was all it took then i'm pretty sure i'd have heard about it by now somewhere

it's what all those early concepts of space stations were based on. big spinning rings, or compartments spinning at the end of long pylons.

the ISS doesn't spin i think because it's too fragile to really support spinning. also, it's not built for it. i think i have heard that they have spun it up a little to get the moisture to either end.

but yeah in theory spinning a space station is a decent approximation for gravity.

Aegis · February 2010

Newest PA comic is brilliant.

Jacobkosh · February 2010

Daxon wrote: »

Jacobkosh wrote: »

Elldren wrote: »

What about actual accomplishable, useful shit that we see in science fiction that aren't silly space operas? Like bionics or fusion power or improved pharmaceuticals?

I saw something on National Geographic where they gave this old woman a bionic eye

Like, an actual working bionic eye. They replaced her cornea with a low-res webcam, basically. For the first time in 50 years she can find her way around the house without holding on to the walls. It was amazing.

And fusion - I pray every day that that will happen. It would totally upend almost every paradigm we have.

What, in her actual eye? I think I saw a discovery channel thing where they had a camera in this dude's sunglasses that sent information to a chip in his visual cortex. I am happy robot-human integration grows closer <3

yeah, I mean, I hesitate to call it an actual "bionic" eye because it's not like it was directly hooked up to her brain or anything. She still needed real eyes and optic nerves. But it made her useless eyes work again (more or less).

Sarksus · February 2010

Irond Will wrote: »

Rust wrote: »

moniker wrote: »

Rust wrote: »

Variable wrote: »

kotor made me want an apartment on a spaceship.

I think it was that game. the first? probably...

space housing would basically guarantee we could never ever go back to earth or anywhere with comparable gravity

unless we developed some kind of gravity generator, which is patently impossible because apparently gravity is like the fucking black box of the universe

You mean spinning?

if centrifugal force was all it took then i'm pretty sure i'd have heard about it by now somewhere

it's what all those early concepts of space stations were based on. big spinning rings, or compartments spinning at the end of long pylons.

the ISS doesn't spin i think because it's too fragile to really support spinning. also, it's not built for it. i think i have heard that they have spun it up a little to get the moisture to either end.

but yeah in theory spinning a space station is a decent approximation for gravity.

Yeah it's pretty simple and doesn't involve anti-gravitrons or whatever the hell.

Variable · February 2010

kubrick figured it out like 40 years ago guys

Kagera · February 2010

Dudes.

Cochlear implants.

BOOM BABY.

Donkey Kong · February 2010

Generating gravity and generating a downward acceleration of 9.8m/s/s are two different things.

All we really need is the latter, and spinning will do that. Preferably spinning on a very large arm so the field appears to be downward only and fairly uniform.

Jacobkosh · February 2010

electricitylikesme wrote: »

Chevy Volt, if it works, is probably the next big step - essentially a plugin hybrid which can run as an EV for an extended period. 40 miles is kind of a big deal since it covers people's entire commute.

Oh man, that would be rad

The 40 miles thing would be ridiculously generous for me. I might go more than 40 miles in a trip once every two months or so.

Elldren · February 2010

moniker wrote: »

Rust wrote: »

Variable wrote: »

kotor made me want an apartment on a spaceship.

I think it was that game. the first? probably...

space housing would basically guarantee we could never ever go back to earth or anywhere with comparable gravity

unless we developed some kind of gravity generator, which is patently impossible because apparently gravity is like the fucking black box of the universe

You mean spinning?

Centrifugal force isn't the same as gravity.

Irond Will · February 2010

moniker wrote: »

Irond Will wrote: »

moniker wrote: »

Sarksus wrote: »

But you guys must see what I see, right? You must see all of the people on these forums who rely on their novels when they're discussing science, right? All of the people who talk about science knowingly but actually have no idea? It happens all the time. Part of the reason why I left for three months was because I had found a better place to learn about the scientific fields which interested me.

...that's true on every topic. I've got over 40k posts here, and I'm barely past functionally retarded on a whole mess of topics whose threads have a blue dot in them. Caveat Emptor reigns supreme in the marketplace of ideas.

i guess it would be like if I and everyone else on this forum were agitating for basing our architecture on ice because that guy in the james bond movie totally made a castle out of ice, moniker.

You mean like the ice hotel does?

yes we need to spend probably half of our national budget on those, moniker, because architecture and city planning are easy and human culture is doomed if we don't at least make an effort to move into ice houses

Elki · February 2010

Variable wrote: »

kubrick figured it out like 40 years ago guys

That it's gonna end up with computers murdering us?

Rust · February 2010

did tycho just put a linkin park quote in his post today

did he do that

is that a thing he just did

Al_wat · February 2010

Daxon wrote: »

Jacobkosh wrote: »

Elldren wrote: »

What about actual accomplishable, useful shit that we see in science fiction that aren't silly space operas? Like bionics or fusion power or improved pharmaceuticals?

I saw something on National Geographic where they gave this old woman a bionic eye

Like, an actual working bionic eye. They replaced her cornea with a low-res webcam, basically. For the first time in 50 years she can find her way around the house without holding on to the walls. It was amazing.

And fusion - I pray every day that that will happen. It would totally upend almost every paradigm we have.

What, in her actual eye? I think I saw a discovery channel thing where they had a camera in this dude's sunglasses that sent information to a chip in his visual cortex. I am happy robot-human integration grows closer <3

This type of stuff fascinates me. If I remember that case correctly they didnt expect it to work properly, and the only reason it worked is because of the brains natural function to understand inputs it is provided.

Kagera · February 2010

Oh shit

these wounds they will not heal

And THAT song of all their songs.

moniker · February 2010

Irond Will wrote: »

Rust wrote: »

moniker wrote: »

Rust wrote: »

Variable wrote: »

kotor made me want an apartment on a spaceship.

I think it was that game. the first? probably...

space housing would basically guarantee we could never ever go back to earth or anywhere with comparable gravity

unless we developed some kind of gravity generator, which is patently impossible because apparently gravity is like the fucking black box of the universe

You mean spinning?

if centrifugal force was all it took then i'm pretty sure i'd have heard about it by now somewhere

it's what all those early concepts of space stations were based on. big spinning rings, or compartments spinning at the end of long pylons.

the ISS doesn't spin i think because it's too fragile to really support spinning. also, it's not built for it. i think i have heard that they have spun it up a little to get the moisture to either end.

but yeah in theory spinning a space station is a decent approximation for gravity.

I think I read somewhere that the newest module does to some extent.

Sarksus · February 2010

Elldren wrote: »

moniker wrote: »

Rust wrote: »

Variable wrote: »

kotor made me want an apartment on a spaceship.

I think it was that game. the first? probably...

space housing would basically guarantee we could never ever go back to earth or anywhere with comparable gravity

unless we developed some kind of gravity generator, which is patently impossible because apparently gravity is like the fucking black box of the universe

You mean spinning?

Centrifugal force isn't the same as gravity.

It's good enough.

Irond Will · February 2010

Jacobkosh wrote: »

electricitylikesme wrote: »

Chevy Volt, if it works, is probably the next big step - essentially a plugin hybrid which can run as an EV for an extended period. 40 miles is kind of a big deal since it covers people's entire commute.

Oh man, that would be rad

The 40 miles thing would be ridiculously generous for me. I might go more than 40 miles in a trip once every two months or so.

man the slow advancement of battery technology has been kind of disappointing.

it's a big part of why we can't have cool robots

Sarksus · February 2010

Will, robots are not real, stop reading Asimov.

Daxon · February 2010

Kagera wrote: »

Hey guys remember that time all those Romans were like 'we don't wanna get raided by barbarians we're going to live on a lagoon' and then people said 'you retards you can't make buildings on a lagoon' and then POW Venice?

Yeah, that was pretty tight.

You know Venice is sinking into the sea? It sinks a centimeter or a couple of millimeters or a couple of centimeters (I don't know the specifics) every year.

Jacobkosh · February 2010

I have to say, for a while there last year PA (the comic) was not really doing it for me as much as it used to, but the past few months they have been in top form.

Kagera · February 2010

It's like, what's next? I tried so hard, and got so far

moniker · February 2010

Irond Will wrote: »

moniker wrote: »

Irond Will wrote: »

moniker wrote: »

Sarksus wrote: »

But you guys must see what I see, right? You must see all of the people on these forums who rely on their novels when they're discussing science, right? All of the people who talk about science knowingly but actually have no idea? It happens all the time. Part of the reason why I left for three months was because I had found a better place to learn about the scientific fields which interested me.

...that's true on every topic. I've got over 40k posts here, and I'm barely past functionally retarded on a whole mess of topics whose threads have a blue dot in them. Caveat Emptor reigns supreme in the marketplace of ideas.

i guess it would be like if I and everyone else on this forum were agitating for basing our architecture on ice because that guy in the james bond movie totally made a castle out of ice, moniker.

You mean like the ice hotel does?

yes we need to spend probably half of our national budget on those, moniker, because architecture and city planning are easy and human culture is doomed if we don't at least make an effort to move into ice houses

Since that would only be capable if the first impossible thing happened, it'd be more sensible to just switch it over to a defense mindset. Ice aircraft carriers.

electricitylikesme · February 2010

Irond Will wrote: »

Jacobkosh wrote: »

electricitylikesme wrote: »

Chevy Volt, if it works, is probably the next big step - essentially a plugin hybrid which can run as an EV for an extended period. 40 miles is kind of a big deal since it covers people's entire commute.

Oh man, that would be rad

The 40 miles thing would be ridiculously generous for me. I might go more than 40 miles in a trip once every two months or so.

man the slow advancement of battery technology has been kind of disappointing.

it's a big part of why we can't have cool robots

I'm agitating for my lab to move into direct ethanol fuel cells based off of porous silicon.

Elldren · February 2010

Jacobkosh wrote: »

Daxon wrote: »

Jacobkosh wrote: »

Elldren wrote: »

What about actual accomplishable, useful shit that we see in science fiction that aren't silly space operas? Like bionics or fusion power or improved pharmaceuticals?

I saw something on National Geographic where they gave this old woman a bionic eye

Like, an actual working bionic eye. They replaced her cornea with a low-res webcam, basically. For the first time in 50 years she can find her way around the house without holding on to the walls. It was amazing.

And fusion - I pray every day that that will happen. It would totally upend almost every paradigm we have.

What, in her actual eye? I think I saw a discovery channel thing where they had a camera in this dude's sunglasses that sent information to a chip in his visual cortex. I am happy robot-human integration grows closer <3

yeah, I mean, I hesitate to call it an actual "bionic" eye because it's not like it was directly hooked up to her brain or anything. She still needed real eyes and optic nerves. But it made her useless eyes work again (more or less).

Your hesitating to call it bionic is part of this whole thing Will is going on about.

Sarksus · February 2010

Is this the first time Gabe has drawn the DivX Player in the new style?

Variable · February 2010

Irond Will wrote: »

Jacobkosh wrote: »

electricitylikesme wrote: »

Chevy Volt, if it works, is probably the next big step - essentially a plugin hybrid which can run as an EV for an extended period. 40 miles is kind of a big deal since it covers people's entire commute.

Oh man, that would be rad

The 40 miles thing would be ridiculously generous for me. I might go more than 40 miles in a trip once every two months or so.

man the slow advancement of battery technology has been kind of disappointing.

it's a big part of why we can't have cool robots

I think we should remind science that if they invent some better batteries Radioshack can go out of business

Kagera · February 2010

Daxon wrote: »

Kagera wrote: »

Hey guys remember that time all those Romans were like 'we don't wanna get raided by barbarians we're going to live on a lagoon' and then people said 'you retards you can't make buildings on a lagoon' and then POW Venice?

Yeah, that was pretty tight.

You know Venice is sinking into the sea? It sinks a centimeter or a couple of millimeters or a couple of centimeters (I don't know the specifics) every year.

Yeah, nothing's permanent dude.

But Venice has been around a LONG FUCKING time, and it'll be around a while more.

And that fucking rocks.

Jacobkosh · February 2010

Irond Will wrote: »

man the slow advancement of battery technology has been kind of disappointing.

it's a big part of why we can't have cool robots

What is involved in that, exactly? Is it a chemistry problem, or a materials thing, or what?

Elki · February 2010

Irond Will · February 2010

Sarksus wrote: »

Will, robots are not real, stop reading Asimov.

the japanese keep making horri-sexy fleshbots but seeing that power cord just makes me go soft

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