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Talka
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Some friends of mine got drunk last night and ending up singing the Pokemon theme song for hours last night, and it got me reminiscing about the games. I "caught them all" in the first generation, caught a few in the second generation, and then forgot about the series for a decade or so and never bothered with the third or fourth generations.
I thought it might be fun to have another go at the games, so I borrowed Emerald from my roommate and gave it a few hours. Unfortunately, the games are actually pretty terrible. They were fun as escapist garbage when I was a child, but in mechanics/design/depth they're so outdated and shallow that they really aren't worth my time anymore.
I still have a collecting itch, though, and now I'm wondering if anyone ever successfully advanced the genre in the fourteen years since Pokemon came out. Specifically, I have a hankering for "catching them all," but in a package with the gameplay and graphics that can satisfy me now that I'm no longer the guy in middle school who found Pokemon Blue so entertaining.
So what sort of games are out there? I've heard mention of Monster Hunter over the years, but I wasn't impressed the one time I gave it a go a few years ago. Is that what I'm looking for? Should I give Pokemon another shot? What else is out there?
I thought it might be fun to have another go at the games, so I borrowed Emerald from my roommate and gave it a few hours. Unfortunately, the games are actually pretty terrible. They were fun as escapist garbage when I was a child, but in mechanics/design/depth they're so outdated and shallow that they really aren't worth my time anymore.
I still have a collecting itch, though, and now I'm wondering if anyone ever successfully advanced the genre in the fourteen years since Pokemon came out. Specifically, I have a hankering for "catching them all," but in a package with the gameplay and graphics that can satisfy me now that I'm no longer the guy in middle school who found Pokemon Blue so entertaining.
So what sort of games are out there? I've heard mention of Monster Hunter over the years, but I wasn't impressed the one time I gave it a go a few years ago. Is that what I'm looking for? Should I give Pokemon another shot? What else is out there?
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But that's still the same game as the one released fourteen years ago, right? No battle animations, take turns to choose between four attacks, no real plot? That's not enough for me.
Monster Rancher, Dragon Quest Monster: Joker, Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturn.
Nocturn, if you aren't aware, is a weird as hell, hard as fuck RPG. You can negotiate with demons and they will join your party. You can then combine those demons into bigger more badass demons. If you enjoy JRPG's you may like this one.
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You should give persona 3/4 a shot. I've heard 4 is better but I've never played it. 3, though, I was getting some good collecting vibes going through. There are tons of persona(e?) in the game, and as you go on they just keep getting larger and more badass, and the sort of fluid way your team develops is cool. It's sort of an evolutionary path in the sense that when you start with certain persona they naturally develop into other types of persona, keeping certain abilities from prior generations, and then you get like 15 generations down the line and you just have insane combinations. I rather liked that aspect.
Story s'okay too.
You could try checking out the FFTactics series (and ogre battle and similar stuff.) It fed basically the same collect/develop impulse for me, and the combat and story are (slightly) more developed.
ed: I played with digimon DS for about half an hour a while back and it seems a bit more complex, but also seemed like it suffered from most of the same issues the pokemon games do.
my unofficial autobio will be accompanied with tips on how to smile
cause I've found that when they don't see you frown, they never know that you're a threat
and they don't sweat you when you came around
If you're willing to go for RPGs that have some sort of collectable element to them, The World Ends with You might work.
Like, breeding trees. Not the actual trees in the game. Those guys are scary.
Could be worth keeping an eye out for, I guess.
There are always more powerful items, try to get all of them
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This would be the way to go.
My wife won it in a tricky tray and I had never heard of it before.
I have over 60 hours logged on the game and I'm still going.
Basically you dig up dinosaur fossils, clean them with drills and hammers, and revive the bones and force the revived dinosaurs (called vivosaurs) to fight for your pleasure. You collect up to 4 bones per vivosaur and they gain levels and powers as you collect more pieces and use them in battle.
Very good game.
Good it's already mentioned
Talka, get TWEWY
Everyone panned this game before it came out, mostly because it looks and sounds like a knockoff and it was advertised on all the kid channels and magazines. I wondered how it would turn out.
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it's like Pokemon meets Lovecraft meets the Book of Revelations.
...meets the hardest JRPG
You will never. Stop. Playing.
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1) YOU CANNOT COLLECT ALL POKEMON IN ONE GODDAMN GAME. You have to get six versions and trade and download from retailers and god knows what else. Put out Pokemon Complete, and we'll talk.
2) Nintendo doesn't use their skillions of dollars on decent production value. Nothing would hurt the design and gameplay of any of their series if they also happened to be gorgeous.
GFWL: Genesius Prime / PSN: Genesius_Prime / Origin: genesiusprime / 3DS: 4871-3718-5715
It doesn't have the depth (IVs and EVS and crap) or amount of pets that pokemon has, but it does capture the "Gotta Catch 'em all!" flavor really well, and you'll spend plenty oh time trying to do so cause all the demons are pretty badass
The first point here is also why I refuse to buy any game in the series.
That's a terrible reason! The games are super fun. Just pretend there's only 250 pokemon instead of 300 or whatever the hell the numbers are.
They are probably some of the deepest RPGs that you can find. Just talk to anyone (mostly adult) that is a hardcore battler in competitions and such. The intricacies of the stat building/natures/types/ etc are innumerable.
I'm not into the hardcore battling, so I usually ignore all that, but they are by no means shallow.
As far as collectathon type gaming, I also say you may like the Suikoden games. Suikoden II is by far the best one.
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Watching a level 100 Magikarp sweep a team of legendaries made me realize how deep the game was
Either that or FEAR
You do you know can trade with other people to get the ones that aren't in your version, and have been able to since the first gen? The current gen is online so you could trade either with people here, or with randoms on the Global Trade Service. I only have a copy of Pokemon Diamond this gen and I have all 493. I wonder how this could be...
EDIT: actually you mentioned trading. Why on Earth wouldn't you want to?
Because multiplayer should never be necessary or prioritized in the completion of a game. This goes for achievements, unlocks, everything. It's a matter of principle, or at least a crotchety old back-in-my-day holdover. I'd even go so far as to lock out multiplayer until you've finished the single-player campaign.
GFWL: Genesius Prime / PSN: Genesius_Prime / Origin: genesiusprime / 3DS: 4871-3718-5715
It's done that way on purpose to get kids to interact. Like that one game (that I can't remember the name of) that had the sun sensor in it so you would go outside to play it.
edit: Boktai, that's the one.
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my unofficial autobio will be accompanied with tips on how to smile
cause I've found that when they don't see you frown, they never know that you're a threat
and they don't sweat you when you came around
I miss those games, though especially Banjo Kazooie. I've yet to see a platformer pull of a semi-open world with as much exploration as those N64 Rare ones.
You can easily beat the game with the Pokemon you get in the game itself! There are nearly 500 of them! Many of them pretty similar!
If you're such a silly goose that not being able to do every single thing in a mulitplayer focused game without interacting with other people offends you then you have no hope.
You don't need to buy another version, anyone who says so is the silliest of geese, just spend a few minutes asking for a trade. It's really easy.