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Greyhounds!

Disco11Disco11 Registered User regular
My wife,daughter and I are moving into a townhouse and we have decided to get a dog. We don't have a fenced yard but we are a 5min walk from a fenced dog park.

We have been looking up dogs and my wife met a racing greyhound rescue group. We where thinking of getting a adult dog from the s.p.c.a anyway.

Just want to see if anyone has any experience with a retired racer or greyhounds in general.

Thanks!

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  • dispatch.odispatch.o Registered User regular
    Disco11 wrote: »
    My wife,daughter and I are moving into a townhouse and we have decided to get a dog. We don't have a fenced yard but we are a 5min walk from a fenced dog park.

    We have been looking up dogs and my wife met a racing greyhound rescue group. We where thinking of getting a adult dog from the s.p.c.a anyway.

    Just want to see if anyone has any experience with a retired racer or greyhounds in general.

    Thanks!

    They actually retire them really really young. So it wont be like getting an aged grumpy dog that you can't teach things too. I have friends who exclusively own and adopt greyhounds and they love them. They seem to just fit right in. Pretty sturdy by the sound of it.

  • MetroidZoidMetroidZoid Registered User regular
    Something to keep in mind, especially with the rescues (this is what I've gathered from talking to a rescue group that sets up adoptions at my work and also from owners of a rescue greyhound) is that (A) they still have that huge prey-driven instinct that's in most dogs in general, but these dogs have been trained to go apeshit after anything small and moving. This means lots of work and training, especially considering things like walks and dog parks (small chihuahua goes after a ball? Oh shit). Also even though they're rescues, they're not perfectly, well rehabilitated is a harsh word but yeah. They need lots and lots of personal time and re-adjustment. But it is still a great deed to adopt one. I say go for it if you're heeding the challenges and responsibilities.

  • Disco11Disco11 Registered User regular
    My last dog was a rescue german shepard/ collie mix that was abused and starved... Not to woried about the challenge . I know about that with the prey drive you can't let them run in a non fenced area.. They see a rabbit they hit the warp speed button.


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  • KistraKistra Registered User
    They don't like sitting or laying down on hard or cold surfaces.

    Probably not a huge issue, but really my only experience with them. A big fluffy dog bed will make basic training easier.

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  • AresProphetAresProphet giggle and the flames grow higher Registered User regular
    A friend of mine adopted a greyhound. It took him a long time to stop being scared of everyone. She just persisted in taking him places and letting him deal with it, and now he's a very relaxed dog.

    You'd think that, being racers, they'll have all kinds of energy. But they're really pretty lazy.

    Finicky digestive systems, too. They're not low-maintenance dogs, especially at first when they have all kinds of lingering health issues, but a good vet will help you get the dog adjusted to living with people who don't abuse him.

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  • 28682868 Registered User
    I have a friend that rescues greyhounds. They run the range of behaviors etc, but their common thread is when they encounter an open space they run.

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  • QuidQuid The Fifth Horseman Registered User regular
    My friend got one and it was a perfectly fine dog if really shy around new people. Very laid back dogs overall.

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  • genejockygenejocky Registered User
    My wife and I rescued two retired racers about a month after we got married, and we absolutely loved both of them. There are a few things to consider when getting these dogs, however. First of all, they have spent their entire lives in small cages for the most part, and might require an adjustment period (house training, stairs, socialization with stangers). If you use a reputable rescue agency though, they will most likely have started this process. Some, but not all, have such a strong prey drive that they will seriously injure/kill small animals, including small dogs, cats, rabbits, etc. Neither of our dogs had this issue, we have cats (the dogs are indifferent). They never had issues with small dogs, they did however like to chase squirrels at the park. They never hurt the squirrels though, just chased them. If they caught a squirrel, they just stood there and looked at it.

    They are great house dogs. They don't require a lot of exercise, and will lay around the house on the couch all day if you let them. Ours were never shy around new people, but that tends to be a function of how they were treated at the track. If they were abused, they tend to be more shy. They were very sensitive about their ears. Apparently it is a very common practice at racetracks to pull on their ears as a 'disciplinary action', so if you touched their ears the wrong way they would squeal like you had hit them.

    All in all, very good dogs. Very few health problems, and they tend to live a long time. Our female lived to 12, and her brother is still alive and well at 13. We definitely would adopt greyhounds again in the future.

  • Disco11Disco11 Registered User regular
    genejocky wrote: »
    My wife and I rescued two retired racers about a month after we got married, and we absolutely loved both of them. There are a few things to consider when getting these dogs, however. First of all, they have spent their entire lives in small cages for the most part, and might require an adjustment period (house training, stairs, socialization with stangers). If you use a reputable rescue agency though, they will most likely have started this process. Some, but not all, have such a strong prey drive that they will seriously injure/kill small animals, including small dogs, cats, rabbits, etc. Neither of our dogs had this issue, we have cats (the dogs are indifferent). They never had issues with small dogs, they did however like to chase squirrels at the park. They never hurt the squirrels though, just chased them. If they caught a squirrel, they just stood there and looked at it.

    They are great house dogs. They don't require a lot of exercise, and will lay around the house on the couch all day if you let them. Ours were never shy around new people, but that tends to be a function of how they were treated at the track. If they were abused, they tend to be more shy. They were very sensitive about their ears. Apparently it is a very common practice at racetracks to pull on their ears as a 'disciplinary action', so if you touched their ears the wrong way they would squeal like you had hit them.

    All in all, very good dogs. Very few health problems, and they tend to live a long time. Our female lived to 12, and her brother is still alive and well at 13. We definitely would adopt greyhounds again in the future.

    Thanks for all the good advise! The agency we are adopting through fosters them for a month or two and does behaviour test to see what type of prey drive they have and ow they react to small animals. They also house break the dogs and provide some obedience training to new owners.


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  • DarkewolfeDarkewolfe Registered User regular
    Wait, greyhounds don't require a lot of exercise? Do they at least require a huge yard space to run around in or anything?

  • Disco11Disco11 Registered User regular
    From what they say they just need regular walks and a space to run 1-2 a week. They need less exercise than a lab or golden retriever. The guy at the rescue place called them a 45mph couch potato.


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  • AndeAnde Registered User
    Just a note since you don't have a fenced yard... be careful if you ever intend to tie your dog outside (like if you're having a bbq on the deck or something, please don't tie your dog to a tree for the whole day). As previously mentioned, their prey drive is very strong, and they will lunge after any squirrel / rabbit / cat / moving plastic bag they see. It takes them about 2 strides to get to full speed, and coming to a sudden stop by a jerk on the neck is not going to be good for their neck or spine. They may or may not also dislocate your shoulder if they blast off while you're walking them =P

    Because of their tendency to lunge after stuff (at least at first), a wider collar (ex. 1.5 or 2 inch wide leather collar) would do less damage / hurt less than a narrower one (ex choke chain).

    Also, they don't grow the thickest coat in the winter, so depending on where you are and how cold it gets, be careful how long your dog is outside in the winter... you may end up having to dress him =S lol

    All in all, greyhounds are very sweet dogs, and usually quite gentle (when they're not taking off at warp speed). As others have said, just because they raced does not mean they will be constantly bouncing off the walls; they are quite happy laying on the couch all day.

    And good for you for looking into rescues!

  • QuirkQuirk Registered User
    Darkewolfe wrote: »
    Wait, greyhounds don't require a lot of exercise? Do they at least require a huge yard space to run around in or anything?

    As far as I'm aware, they tend to enjoy two short-ish walks a day, one slow, and one where you let them blast it for about 20 minutes, and other than that they're pretty content to lounge around and be petted a lot. They are lovely dogs, and good work on thinking about rescuing

  • NargorothRiPNargorothRiP Registered User
    yeah tying them up is a bad idea. they can easily snap their neck if they have a long rope.

  • KistraKistra Registered User
    You will also want to look at martingale collars. Greyhounds typically have heads that are about as big around as their necks so they can slip flat collars that are properly fitted. For this reason you will also see martingale collars described as greyhound collars on some websites.

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  • mr-razzcocksmr-razzcocks Registered User regular
    I didn't see if anybody had mentioned it, but you need to be aware that a lot of rescues are not house trained at all, and will shit all over the damn place until you can teach them otherwise. Other than that, I've always found them to be wonderful pets.

  • Disco11Disco11 Registered User regular
    The rescue organization fosters them for a while before sending them to new homes and starts the house training process. Most of them are crate trained anyway.


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  • LadyMLadyM Registered User regular
    IIRC, they can be sensitive to some anesthetics and it's important to find a vet who's knowledgable about this.

    They seem like pretty awesome dogs.

  • genejockygenejocky Registered User
    LadyM wrote: »
    IIRC, they can be sensitive to some anesthetics and it's important to find a vet who's knowledgable about this.

    This is correct. All sighthound breeds (greyhounds, wolfhounds, etc.) have serious issues with barbituates due to the way these compunds are metabolized in the body. Namely, barbituates are metabolized mostly by fat cells and the liver. Obviously these dogs have a lot less body fat than other breeds, and their liver metabolism is different as well. Most vets should know this, but make sure yours is aware.

  • Disco11Disco11 Registered User regular
    Apparently they have a vet that works with the organization and donates a ton of time (exams when they get a new dog, blood test and fixes them if need be) and I will be using him as he knows the breed better than anybody in town.

    Thanks for the advise guys, we have decided to go ahead with our plans and are waiting till they get a new batch brought up from the states. Should have a new house mate by the summer and will post pics when he gets here!


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  • Werewolf GamerWerewolf Gamer Registered User
    Most rescue dogs of any breeds are carefully evaluated by the rescue groups. You can find out some breed characteristics but the dogs personality can vary widely. A good rescue group will have a great questionnaire about your lifestyle to fit you with the right dog. They spend a lot of time getting to know the rescue dogs.
    Our first rescue was a german shepherd/australian shepherd mix. He was a great dog but had been abused. He was scared shitless of kids and strangers. However to us and in our home he was great! When he passed away we adopted another German Shepherd. She is a pure bred AKC ( i think that's the correct name?) but she loves kids and is very easy going. She can run and play just as fast as any other German Shephed (and can jump 4 feet in the air) but during the day she's pretty lazy. She loves to sleep in my bed or on the couch most of the day. In the evenings she'll hang out with me and the kids. She lets my youngest climb and sit on her like a pony.
    So even though the breed should be a high energy breed, our Loki has the personality of a couch potato. My biggest suggestion is to just meet a few of the dogs and you'll know when you meet the right dog and personality. Just be sure to give them a few weeks to a couple of months to adjust to their new environment. Rescue dogs sometimes need more adjustment time especially if they had more than one home already. Our poor girl had 3 homes prior to us. She's a perfect dog! She just needed to find a family to fit with.
    Good job again for going with a rescue dog! I think they love you twice as much!

  • L Ron HowardL Ron Howard Registered User regular
    This is a stupid question, but do greyhounds have fur or hair?

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  • Disco11Disco11 Registered User regular
    They have very short fur and don't produce oil on it... Some people that are allergic don't get reactions to them.


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  • TrillianTrillian Registered User
    Yeah, greyhounds hate cold, hate being wet and are pretty much the laziest dogs ever.
    Might I suggest you get a classy tweed hunting jacket with leather elbow patches for him so that he may laze around in comfort on even the chilliest days, with all the protection his bony little elbows require.


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  • JokermanJokerman Lord Paramount of the Neckbeards Registered User regular
    Man I really want a greyhound now.

  • Disco11Disco11 Registered User regular
    Look around... There are thousands out there that need homes.


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  • ElinElin Registered User regular
    Disco11 wrote: »
    Look around... There are thousands out there that need homes.

    Some of us have restrictions though :( I have a 50 lb weight limit set by my apartment building so Greyhounds are right out.

    I was talking to a guy with a greyhound at my dog park. He said his real challenge was training him not to chase the small dogs (the old park didn't have a separate small dog area). If the park near you has separate areas that would probably be ideal. And according to my research when I was planning on getting a greyhound, I was told they can jump a normal chainlink height fence if they sight something they want outside of it. The parks around here only have normal height fences, so that may be something to ask your contacts about, some conditioning/training may be needed before you trust him/her.

  • QuirkQuirk Registered User
    Elin wrote: »
    Disco11 wrote: »
    Look around... There are thousands out there that need homes.

    Some of us have restrictions though :( I have a 50 lb weight limit set by my apartment building so Greyhounds are right out.

    I was talking to a guy with a greyhound at my dog park. He said his real challenge was training him not to chase the small dogs (the old park didn't have a separate small dog area). If the park near you has separate areas that would probably be ideal. And according to my research when I was planning on getting a greyhound, I was told they can jump a normal chainlink height fence if they sight something they want outside of it. The parks around here only have normal height fences, so that may be something to ask your contacts about, some conditioning/training may be needed before you trust him/her.

    You could probably get a whippet, they're smaller than greyhounds but otherwise pretty similar. I'm pretty sure there'd be a load of them who need re-housing the same as greyhounds

  • LadyMLadyM Registered User regular
    Quirk wrote: »
    Elin wrote: »
    Disco11 wrote: »
    Look around... There are thousands out there that need homes.

    Some of us have restrictions though :( I have a 50 lb weight limit set by my apartment building so Greyhounds are right out.

    I was talking to a guy with a greyhound at my dog park. He said his real challenge was training him not to chase the small dogs (the old park didn't have a separate small dog area). If the park near you has separate areas that would probably be ideal. And according to my research when I was planning on getting a greyhound, I was told they can jump a normal chainlink height fence if they sight something they want outside of it. The parks around here only have normal height fences, so that may be something to ask your contacts about, some conditioning/training may be needed before you trust him/her.

    You could probably get a whippet, they're smaller than greyhounds but otherwise pretty similar. I'm pretty sure there'd be a load of them who need re-housing the same as greyhounds

    Are whippets still raced en masse like greyhounds are? I kind of thought they weren't any more . . .

    Incidentally, when I was looking at whippet breeders a couple years ago I learned that a lot of them can't be trusted around cats . . . so I would think they could still be a danger to chihuahuas and the like.

    Italian greyhounds are very small indeed and probably wouldn't be a danger to anything but rodents, but they're notoriously hard to housebreak, unlike "regular" greyhounds.

  • ElinElin Registered User regular
    LadyM wrote: »
    Quirk wrote: »
    Elin wrote: »
    Disco11 wrote: »
    Look around... There are thousands out there that need homes.

    Some of us have restrictions though :( I have a 50 lb weight limit set by my apartment building so Greyhounds are right out.

    I was talking to a guy with a greyhound at my dog park. He said his real challenge was training him not to chase the small dogs (the old park didn't have a separate small dog area). If the park near you has separate areas that would probably be ideal. And according to my research when I was planning on getting a greyhound, I was told they can jump a normal chainlink height fence if they sight something they want outside of it. The parks around here only have normal height fences, so that may be something to ask your contacts about, some conditioning/training may be needed before you trust him/her.

    You could probably get a whippet, they're smaller than greyhounds but otherwise pretty similar. I'm pretty sure there'd be a load of them who need re-housing the same as greyhounds

    Are whippets still raced en masse like greyhounds are? I kind of thought they weren't any more . . .

    Incidentally, when I was looking at whippet breeders a couple years ago I learned that a lot of them can't be trusted around cats . . . so I would think they could still be a danger to chihuahuas and the like.

    Italian greyhounds are very small indeed and probably wouldn't be a danger to anything but rodents, but they're notoriously hard to housebreak, unlike "regular" greyhounds.

    Whippets and IG's aren't common in CO, the climate here isn't ideal. And IG's aren't ideal for living with my husband, they can break their little twiggy legs jumping from a couch ... and my husband does NOT watch where he is walking, ever. :? I'll just wait until I'm somewhere not as hellish, in a house :lol:

  • TrillianTrillian Registered User
    LadyM wrote: »
    Quirk wrote: »
    Elin wrote: »
    Disco11 wrote: »
    Look around... There are thousands out there that need homes.

    Some of us have restrictions though :( I have a 50 lb weight limit set by my apartment building so Greyhounds are right out.

    I was talking to a guy with a greyhound at my dog park. He said his real challenge was training him not to chase the small dogs (the old park didn't have a separate small dog area). If the park near you has separate areas that would probably be ideal. And according to my research when I was planning on getting a greyhound, I was told they can jump a normal chainlink height fence if they sight something they want outside of it. The parks around here only have normal height fences, so that may be something to ask your contacts about, some conditioning/training may be needed before you trust him/her.

    You could probably get a whippet, they're smaller than greyhounds but otherwise pretty similar. I'm pretty sure there'd be a load of them who need re-housing the same as greyhounds

    Are whippets still raced en masse like greyhounds are? I kind of thought they weren't any more . . .

    Incidentally, when I was looking at whippet breeders a couple years ago I learned that a lot of them can't be trusted around cats . . . so I would think they could still be a danger to chihuahuas and the like.

    Italian greyhounds are very small indeed and probably wouldn't be a danger to anything but rodents, but they're notoriously hard to housebreak, unlike "regular" greyhounds.

    Whippets are raced, and bred for racing to the point now where some have a genetic mutation that prevents the production of myostatin. See figure A

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    Figure A


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  • Disco11Disco11 Registered User regular
    Dude, that is a one in a million case. Also, I bet he kicks sand on the wimpy dogs on the beach.


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  • ElinElin Registered User regular
    Disco11 wrote: »
    Dude, that is a one in a million case. Also, I bet he kicks sand on the wimpy dogs on the beach.

    Fun (OT) fact. There is a breed of bull that carries that gene normally. Scientists are using this to try and duplicate the results to cure muscular dystrophy.

    And I've seen that whippet on a few shows, it just doesn't look ... right.

    PS - The Greyhound that I played with at the dog park did NOT look like a 65 lb dog, they are so deceptive in that way.

  • JokermanJokerman Lord Paramount of the Neckbeards Registered User regular
    Disco11 wrote: »
    Look around... There are thousands out there that need homes.

    The problem isnt finding one. The problem is I already have dogs.

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  • TrillianTrillian Registered User
    Elin wrote: »
    Disco11 wrote: »
    Dude, that is a one in a million case. Also, I bet he kicks sand on the wimpy dogs on the beach.

    Fun (OT) fact. There is a breed of bull that carries that gene normally. Scientists are using this to try and duplicate the results to cure muscular dystrophy.

    And I've seen that whippet on a few shows, it just doesn't look ... right.

    PS - The Greyhound that I played with at the dog park did NOT look like a 65 lb dog, they are so deceptive in that way.

    There are also two known people with this disorder, one in Germany, one in the US. One child at the age of 18 months, was able to the iron cross, a gymnastics move where one is able to support their own weight with the arms extended at 90 degree angles to the body. It's pretty cool, and the protein is totally named after a drug made up in the incredible hulk series.

    Also this condition is more common than you may think. Heterozygous dogs are selected for in breeding programs, as they have extra muscle without a huge amount of bulk to weigh them down, so they are faster. Homozygotes, those with two nonfunctioning myostatin genes are more rare, but not unheard of, though usually disposed of early in life.


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