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Kick-Ass: Mostly aptly named film since Superbad

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  • urahonkyurahonky Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I'm a HUGE fan of zombies and stuff but yes I stand by my word: Kick Ass > Zombieland > District 9... That said all the movies are incredible and it's a great time to be a movie fan.

  • hadokenhadoken Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I had to ask my local comic book shop how their logo got plastered all over the movie. Turns out the Owner of Atomic Comics and Mark Millar are good buddies and they wanted to have a real comic book store shown in the movie. Had to make a joke asking when they were going ot put in a coffee shop like in the movie.

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  • Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I'd put it above Zombieland because it had the more entertaining climax.

    Don't really know why District 9 is considered in the same category when it's so different from the other two films. If we're just comparing things we liked to each other, then you might as well throw Frost/Nixon, pizza, and hugs on the list as well.

  • urahonkyurahonky Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I had more fun watching Kick Ass than watching District 9. That's what I mean by "better". AGAIN, not saying D9 was a bad movie because it certainly wasn't. I just enjoyed this movie more.

  • Bionic MonkeyBionic Monkey Registered User, ClubPA
    edited April 2010
    I'd put it above Zombieland because it had the more entertaining climax.

    Don't really know why District 9 is considered in the same category when it's so different from the other two films. If we're just comparing things we liked to each other, then you might as well throw Frost/Nixon, pizza, and hugs on the list as well.

    I think it's because all three sort of have the same "low budget" feel to them, even though they're all very distinctly different films.

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  • Cedar BrownCedar Brown Registered User
    edited April 2010
    Xagarath wrote: »
    There is nothing worth citing about Boondock Saints, unless your context of choice is "how not to do it".

    I'm thinking about the part where they gain access to the house by holding the maid at gunpoint and then burst in to murder a bunch of guys chilling around a poker table. They'd be dead before they react. Nothing unrealistic about that.

  • RobmanRobman Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    urahonky wrote: »
    I had more fun watching Kick Ass than watching District 9. That's what I mean by "better". AGAIN, not saying D9 was a bad movie because it certainly wasn't. I just enjoyed this movie more.

    Man according to that criteria of "better" Meet the Spartans was a better movie then The Pianist

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  • MrDelishMrDelish Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    - At no point on camera does Big Daddy and Hit Girl inform Kick Ass where safe house B is ... and Red Mist suggests just plugging it into the GPS. Made me think of Grand Theft Auto :P

    I thought I saw the camera pan over the computer screen showing the safe house address before Red Mist suggested putting it in the GPS

  • urahonkyurahonky Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Robman wrote: »
    urahonky wrote: »
    I had more fun watching Kick Ass than watching District 9. That's what I mean by "better". AGAIN, not saying D9 was a bad movie because it certainly wasn't. I just enjoyed this movie more.

    Man according to that criteria of "better" Meet the Spartans was a better movie then The Pianist

    Do you realize what you have done? Do you?

    Absolutely. If you had more fun watching Meet the Spartans than The Pianist (this couldn't sound longer), then it would technically be a better movie to you.

    But that would be my opinion because I go to movies to enjoy myself and have a good time... Because if I didn't what the hell is the point of paying $14?

  • CanadianWolverineCanadianWolverine Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    MrDelish wrote: »
    - At no point on camera does Big Daddy and Hit Girl inform Kick Ass where safe house B is ... and Red Mist suggests just plugging it into the GPS. Made me think of Grand Theft Auto :P

    I thought I saw the camera pan over the computer screen showing the safe house address before Red Mist suggested putting it in the GPS

    That's what I thought the first time I saw it too, on the second viewing I noticed it just says "Safehouse B". I got a little laugh out of that.

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  • RanadielRanadiel Registered User
    edited April 2010
    I finally saw this movie and thoroughly enjoyed it. It had a lot of geek humor moments and watching Kick-Ass try to fight was hilarious every single time, especially his final fight at the end of the movie.

    I haven't read the comic, but I failed to see how the movie was trying to send any kind of message about how you'd have to be crazy to try and be a hero; the only message I got was "stand up and do something" when bad shit is going down. However, I do understand that there were major changes to the characters from their comic counterparts, so I'm trying to keep the two seperated and just comment on the film.

    On the characters:
    Spoiler:

    I did have a few minor nitpicks for an otherwise fun and outrageous movie:
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  • ANTVGM64ANTVGM64 Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I made the Zombie Land analogy to my friends coming out of the movie. I think this new genre of Hard R rated gross out action dramedy is going to be a pretty big thing.
    Spoiler:

  • Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    ANTVGM64 wrote: »
    I made the Zombie Land analogy to my friends coming out of the movie. I think this new genre of Hard R rated gross out action dramedy is going to be a pretty big thing.
    Spoiler:
    Spoiler:

  • ANTVGM64ANTVGM64 Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Spoiler:


    On another note, how "Kick Ass" would it be if the next series of graphic novels involve this movie being released in some way.

  • override367override367 Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    urahonky wrote: »
    Robman wrote: »
    urahonky wrote: »
    I had more fun watching Kick Ass than watching District 9. That's what I mean by "better". AGAIN, not saying D9 was a bad movie because it certainly wasn't. I just enjoyed this movie more.

    Man according to that criteria of "better" Meet the Spartans was a better movie then The Pianist

    Do you realize what you have done? Do you?

    Absolutely. If you had more fun watching Meet the Spartans than The Pianist (this couldn't sound longer), then it would technically be a better movie to you.

    But that would be my opinion because I go to movies to enjoy myself and have a good time... Because if I didn't what the hell is the point of paying $14?

    I don't know, I don't find movies like Schindler's List, or Taxi Driver to be super fun to watch, but movies that make you think extend beyond the theater (at least for me) more than pure sugar like zombieland - it's a different viewing experience completely

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  • Bionic MonkeyBionic Monkey Registered User, ClubPA
    edited April 2010
    ANTVGM64 wrote: »
    I made the Zombie Land analogy to my friends coming out of the movie. I think this new genre of Hard R rated gross out action dramedy is going to be a pretty big thing.
    Spoiler:
    Spoiler:

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  • urahonkyurahonky Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Spoiler:

  • Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    ANTVGM64 wrote: »
    I made the Zombie Land analogy to my friends coming out of the movie. I think this new genre of Hard R rated gross out action dramedy is going to be a pretty big thing.
    Spoiler:
    Spoiler:

    Awwww, I hope there's a director's cut. That sounds good, and I hate watching stuff like that out of context.

    Still, watching them dance in the car was enough to convince me that they got along well.

  • Toxic ToysToxic Toys Braggadocio Open up the trunk, release the mech, Increase the power to the shield to protect, I never hit eject.Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I just saw this again. The theater had twice as many people as last week. So that's a good sign.

    I did notice more the 2nd go around. I just caught how good the music really is. It makes the sceans so much better.

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  • XagarathXagarath Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    urahonky wrote: »
    Robman wrote: »
    urahonky wrote: »
    I had more fun watching Kick Ass than watching District 9. That's what I mean by "better". AGAIN, not saying D9 was a bad movie because it certainly wasn't. I just enjoyed this movie more.

    Man according to that criteria of "better" Meet the Spartans was a better movie then The Pianist

    Do you realize what you have done? Do you?

    Absolutely. If you had more fun watching Meet the Spartans than The Pianist (this couldn't sound longer), then it would technically be a better movie to you.

    But that would be my opinion because I go to movies to enjoy myself and have a good time... Because if I didn't what the hell is the point of paying $14?

    Some people enjoy going to films to think rather than to relax. Doesn't make it pointless for them, does it?

  • urahonkyurahonky Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Xagarath wrote: »
    urahonky wrote: »
    Robman wrote: »
    urahonky wrote: »
    I had more fun watching Kick Ass than watching District 9. That's what I mean by "better". AGAIN, not saying D9 was a bad movie because it certainly wasn't. I just enjoyed this movie more.

    Man according to that criteria of "better" Meet the Spartans was a better movie then The Pianist

    Do you realize what you have done? Do you?

    Absolutely. If you had more fun watching Meet the Spartans than The Pianist (this couldn't sound longer), then it would technically be a better movie to you.

    But that would be my opinion because I go to movies to enjoy myself and have a good time... Because if I didn't what the hell is the point of paying $14?

    Some people enjoy going to films to think rather than to relax. Doesn't make it pointless for them, does it?

    Does for me. :)

  • XagarathXagarath Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    urahonky wrote: »
    Xagarath wrote: »
    urahonky wrote: »
    Robman wrote: »
    urahonky wrote: »
    I had more fun watching Kick Ass than watching District 9. That's what I mean by "better". AGAIN, not saying D9 was a bad movie because it certainly wasn't. I just enjoyed this movie more.

    Man according to that criteria of "better" Meet the Spartans was a better movie then The Pianist

    Do you realize what you have done? Do you?

    Absolutely. If you had more fun watching Meet the Spartans than The Pianist (this couldn't sound longer), then it would technically be a better movie to you.

    But that would be my opinion because I go to movies to enjoy myself and have a good time... Because if I didn't what the hell is the point of paying $14?

    Some people enjoy going to films to think rather than to relax. Doesn't make it pointless for them, does it?

    Does for me. :)
    So? Why parade the fact? Does it make you better than them?

  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    The ultimate secret to film that nobody wants you to know is that the films you enjoy the most are, in fact, the best films.

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  • urahonkyurahonky Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    It absolutely does make me better than them. If they like movies I don't like then they are clearly inferior to me when it comes to taste in movies.

  • DoomSong8DoomSong8 Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Just got back from this. Honestly, I didn't dig it as much as I thought I would. It's good, but not the best film I've seen in a while, and not one that's going to stick with me.

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  • amateurhouramateurhour Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Well, the weekend numbers are in. 52% drop at the box office. So far it's got about 30 million US and close to 25 worldwide I think, but I haven't found a concrete number online yet. So it's made back 55 million out of an estimated 80, but that's counting Lion's Gate's horrible financing.

    It's made back production though, It'll probably run another four weeks at the box office for another 15 mill, 25 total counting worldwide, I'm guessing, which will put it around 75-80 mill total which will be close to break even.

    It's basically going to be Serenity all over again, lets hope for a DVD following so that we might get some more Kick Ass down the road.

    edit: I know Lion's Gate is trying to break free from the direct to dvd market, but hell...
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  • nervenerve Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I went to see this again last night 'cause I was bored. Arg, it is just so damn good! Some of hit girls lines will never get old.

  • TeriferinTeriferin Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I'm going to try and see this tomorrow, after I finish my exams. I will be so very sad if I don't enjoy it.

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  • DarkewolfeDarkewolfe Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    This movie isn't making great piles of money? I'm making it my personal goal to convince all of my friends who haven't seen it to go immediately.

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  • AtomikaAtomika genius of the restoration Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    It's made back production though, It'll probably run another four weeks at the box office for another 15 mill, 25 total counting worldwide, I'm guessing, which will put it around 75-80 mill total which will be close to break even.

    Considering that the studios make less per-ticket the longer the film plays, it'll have to make a lot more than just budget+marketing to turn a profit.

    This film won't have a chance to turn a profit until DVD, and even that's a stretch. We have to face facts: this movie cannot be considered a success for Lionsgate. For Vaughan, Millar, and the cast, probably, since they probably made all their money already. It's not going to blemish anyone's career, and that's good. Lionsgate will take the biggest hit because of all the money they spent on ads, so the failure will be in their court alone, but make no mistake, it is a failure.
    Spoiler:

    Chloe Moretz has a pretty jam-packed schedule right now, not to mention a rising stock in the industry. The same probably goes for Mintz-Plasse. Expecting a high-quality DTV sequel is some staggering wishful thinking at this point.

  • override367override367 Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    It's made back production though, It'll probably run another four weeks at the box office for another 15 mill, 25 total counting worldwide, I'm guessing, which will put it around 75-80 mill total which will be close to break even.

    Considering that the studios make less per-ticket the longer the film plays, it'll have to make a lot more than just budget+marketing to turn a profit.

    This film won't have a chance to turn a profit until DVD, and even that's a stretch. We have to face facts: this movie cannot be considered a success for Lionsgate. For Vaughan, Millar, and the cast, probably, since they probably made all their money already. It's not going to blemish anyone's career, and that's good. Lionsgate will take the biggest hit because of all the money they spent on ads, so the failure will be in their court alone, but make no mistake, it is a failure.
    Spoiler:

    Chloe Moretz has a pretty jam-packed schedule right now, not to mention a rising stock in the industry. The same probably goes for Mintz-Plasse. Expecting a high-quality DTV sequel is some staggering wishful thinking at this point.

    I was under the impression that dvd sales made more actual money for the people that made the film than box office tickets

    edit: I think my assumption is wrong

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  • amateurhouramateurhour Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    It's made back production though, It'll probably run another four weeks at the box office for another 15 mill, 25 total counting worldwide, I'm guessing, which will put it around 75-80 mill total which will be close to break even.

    Considering that the studios make less per-ticket the longer the film plays, it'll have to make a lot more than just budget+marketing to turn a profit.

    This film won't have a chance to turn a profit until DVD, and even that's a stretch. We have to face facts: this movie cannot be considered a success for Lionsgate. For Vaughan, Millar, and the cast, probably, since they probably made all their money already. It's not going to blemish anyone's career, and that's good. Lionsgate will take the biggest hit because of all the money they spent on ads, so the failure will be in their court alone, but make no mistake, it is a failure.
    Spoiler:

    Chloe Moretz has a pretty jam-packed schedule right now, not to mention a rising stock in the industry. The same probably goes for Mintz-Plasse. Expecting a high-quality DTV sequel is some staggering wishful thinking at this point.

    Aren't there a lot of regulations in place to keep minors who act from a) making ridiculous sums of money and 2) having their parents take it? That's speaking purely for Moretz.

    Also, another studio could just by the distribution rights and turn the (possible) franchise around. It would be the same thing that happened with Mallrats. Universal picked up the movie, but eventually everything god sold off to Miramax who actually did stuff with it, and the rest of Smith's work.

    Honestly I'm just playing devil's advocate here. I mean Lion's Gate obviously screwed up with this, and for them, it will be a failure, but there's money to be made from this franchise, and there is a good chance someone could figure that out.

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  • AtomikaAtomika genius of the restoration Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I was under the impression that dvd sales made more actual money for the people that made the film than box office tickets

    edit: I think my assumption is wrong

    I know more about the theatrical money breakdown than the DVD, but I gotta think that the studios don't make all that much of the DVD share either.

    You have to pay the design team, any cast or crew that have points on the DVD (which Nic Cage, Vaughan, and Millar probably do), the marketing to get the word out, the manufacturers, and then whatever margin you're giving to the retailers. That eats up a good bit. At best, you're looking at half the revenue going to the studio. At best.

    So let's take the estimated final North American take, which is about 50 million. The average ticket price, according to NATO, is about $8.00. This means about 6.25 million people saw (or will see) the movie theatrically. Now, take the average DVD price at $20 (less for SD, more for BRD), which gives us a profit of give-or-take $10 for the studios per disc. A little more research seems to tell us that Kick Ass can reasonably expect 1-3 million DVDs sold.

    So the studio could possibly see another 30 million in net DVD revenue, but less is more likely. So, like I said, it might turn a profit, but it's a stretch.

  • AtomikaAtomika genius of the restoration Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Aren't there a lot of regulations in place to keep minors who act from a) making ridiculous sums of money and 2) having their parents take it? That's speaking purely for Moretz.

    I'm not sure there's either.
    Also, another studio could just by the distribution rights and turn the (possible) franchise around. It would be the same thing that happened with Mallrats. Universal picked up the movie, but eventually everything god sold off to Miramax who actually did stuff with it, and the rest of Smith's work.

    Honestly I'm just playing devil's advocate here. I mean Lion's Gate obviously screwed up with this, and for them, it will be a failure, but there's money to be made from this franchise, and there is a good chance someone could figure that out.

    I'm not sure there is too much more money to be made here. It had a large marketing push, and it's dropping like a stone at the BO right now. Not only did it open small, it had no legs, meaning that word of mouth isn't getting around. It's not going to be like Batman Begins, opening small but then running all summer long.

    You're also looking at a cast of young people that will be aging quickly. Moretz can't play Hit Girl too much longer without serious sexual issues coming into play. But more than that, the movie's arc closes nicely and brings resolution to every plot line. It doesn't demand the sequel the ending would seem to illicit.

  • PicardathonPicardathon Registered User
    edited April 2010
    As far as child acting, there's limits on hours, and they have to get schooling but money is money. If those kids have shitty parents there's nothing stopping them from becoming the next Gary Coleman if they fail at their studies and can't get a career started.

  • amateurhouramateurhour Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    As far as child acting, there's limits on hours, and they have to get schooling but money is money. If those kids have shitty parents there's nothing stopping them from becoming the next Gary Coleman if they fail at their studies and can't get a career started.

    After Macauly Culkin (sp?)'s parents took all of his money and he divorced or got emancipated from them, they put regulations in place that stated something along the lines of a percentage of income going towards a trust (for college or the actor turning 18) and that the parents were only allowed to 20 or 30 percent. I know that much is true, I just thought they also had a salary cap as well.

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  • DarkWarriorDarkWarrior __BANNED USERS
    edited April 2010
    I dont see why the parents would even get that much, they're not the ones working.

    THats how you get a Lindsay Lohan.

    ...it's in the shape of a giant c**k.
  • Bionic MonkeyBionic Monkey Registered User, ClubPA
    edited April 2010
    I dont see why the parents would even get that much, they're not the ones working.

    THats how you get a Lindsay Lohan.

    Presumably they're acting as agents/managers. Even if they're not, I'm pretty sure legally parents are entitled to money that their minor children earn.

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  • Psychotic OnePsychotic One Never let an alligator... Do your taxesRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I dont see why the parents would even get that much, they're not the ones working.

    THats how you get a Lindsay Lohan.

    On the other hand you could get a Gary Coleman situation. Anyone want to buy some of Coleman's boxer shorts so he can pay his electric bill?

  • Fatboy RobertsFatboy Roberts Registered User
    edited April 2010
    t will be a failure, but there's money to be made from this franchise,

    It's not a franchise. It's a single movie.

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