[MH3]Call of Hunters - Monster Warfare 3

thepizzaelemental · April 2010

chiablo wrote: »

So what weapon does everyone use online? I haven't gone online yet, but it seems to me that the lance is too awesome not to use. I just don't want to specialize in a weapon that everyone else is using.

From what I've heard, lance is pretty popular lately. Just make a SnS or bowgun as well and store it in your box in case there's too many lancers on the field. If such a thing is possible.

amateurhour · April 2010

Seriously, can someone please explain the new bowgun system to me. I'm trying to read it on the wiki and it's like instructions for installing a car stereo. I just don't get it.

I don't get all of the columns and frames and such. I need someone to break it down for me. I'd like a bowgun that can deal consistent damage, some heavy damage, and heal I guess, if that's possible. I also don't get the difference between folding and non folding, and the shields and item use.

I'm an idiot, but it just doesn't compute.

Entaru · April 2010

thepizzaelemental wrote: »

chiablo wrote: »

So what weapon does everyone use online? I haven't gone online yet, but it seems to me that the lance is too awesome not to use. I just don't want to specialize in a weapon that everyone else is using.

From what I've heard, lance is pretty popular lately. Just make a SnS or bowgun as well and store it in your box in case there's too many lancers on the field. If such a thing is possible.

As some point I decided to just find a weapon I was good at and liked using. The rest will figure itself out.

After awhile of playing you start to see weapons you like and weapons you really don't care for. Who cares if other people are using the same thing?

chiablo · April 2010

Entaru wrote: »

thepizzaelemental wrote: »

chiablo wrote: »

So what weapon does everyone use online? I haven't gone online yet, but it seems to me that the lance is too awesome not to use. I just don't want to specialize in a weapon that everyone else is using.

From what I've heard, lance is pretty popular lately. Just make a SnS or bowgun as well and store it in your box in case there's too many lancers on the field. If such a thing is possible.

As some point I decided to just find a weapon I was good at and liked using. The rest will figure itself out. After awhile of playing you start to see weapons you like and weapons you really don't care for. Who cares of other people are using the same thing?

The lance feels like cheating since I can just hold down R and become invincible. I think I might switch over to the Hammer though. The hammer is hilarious against a G. Jaggi and his friends. Whirling Dervish vs. 15 dinos = *Thwack Smack Bang Boom Shabang Thwack Pop Pow*

Brainiac 8 · April 2010

I need to make a bowgun just to practice with just in case I do an online group that needs a gunner.

Preacher · April 2010

I think I'll make a lance for offline mode (seriously that barroth fight this morning was so rage inducing). And keep my long sword for battling online, and hopefully upgrade it soon. I'd love the thunder long sword but I have to kill a lag, and I'm hella chicken about that. The barroth this morning used up 20 mega pots (it didn't help I just can't seem to figure his attacks yet.) I was getting there, but could probably use a faster attacking weapon.

I think that you need to also upgrade more than one, because seriously fighting a barroth with the long sword seemed like a good way to not complete it (well solo, I'm sure with others it would be fine, it seems like multi is where you can use those heavy hitters easier).

Entaru · April 2010

chiablo wrote: »

The lance feels like cheating since I can just hold down R and become invincible. I think I might switch over to the Hammer though. The hammer is hilarious against a G. Jaggi and his friends. Whirling Dervish vs. 15 dinos = *Thwack Smack Bang Boom Shabang Thwack Pop Pow*

To be honest I'm between Hammer and Lances, myself. I love both of them for different reasons.

Also, when shield skewering you're doing less damage then normal, remember that. There is a formula on the wiki as to how much % damage of the atk power each attack does.

Preacher · April 2010

Entaru wrote: »

chiablo wrote: »

The lance feels like cheating since I can just hold down R and become invincible. I think I might switch over to the Hammer though. The hammer is hilarious against a G. Jaggi and his friends. Whirling Dervish vs. 15 dinos = *Thwack Smack Bang Boom Shabang Thwack Pop Pow*

To be honest I'm between Hammer and Lances, myself. I love both of them for different reasons.

Also, when shield skewering you're doing less damage then normal, remember that. There is a formula on the wiki as to how much % damage of the atk power each attack does.

Yeah but when you shield skewer you can at least be making attacks, I mean being able to do full power swings doesn't matter if you can't hit the bastards!

DeMoN · April 2010

So when I use a bowgun, do I need to use gunner armor? I've used almost all my materials just making blademaster armor. I'm a little nervous to even try a bowgun with all the different ammo types that I have no idea how to make.

UncleSporky · April 2010

Couple other questions from my noobish self.

Is it possible for weapons to BREAK break, or do you only ever need a whetstone?

What gets instantly fixed when you return to town? Stamina back to default, weapons sharp again? Admittedly I could figure this out pretty quickly, just wondered.

If you cut off parts of a monster that's still alive and kicking, do you have to get to those parts really quick before they despawn, or is there no risk of that?

DaemonSadi · April 2010

amateurhour wrote: »

Preacher wrote: »

DaemonSadi wrote: »

amateurhour wrote: »

DaemonSadi wrote: »

So I'm thinking about taking up a career in Monster Hunting. A few questions.

I think i want to finish up Yakuza 3 first... If I come in that late in the game will any of you guys still be able/want to play with me? I don't want to be a lonely Monster Hunter and I also don't like playing with strangers (yea, you guys don't count as strangers).

Also, If I do play I was looking at both the Great Sword (I know it's slow I've watched videos) or Long Sword. Fans of either of these... Argue why one is more awesome!!!

You won't have a problem finding people to play with you, especially on one star hunting quests. They're fun.

Regarding the swords, you're going to put in almost 20 hours before you can even begin to make the long sword, so don't even worry about it.

The GS is awesome fun, but you need to have patience with it. Every attack can send your team mates flying or knocked over to the side, so you don't want to rush in next to your buddy and start hitting a monster. You want to get on the opposite side, or if your friend is attacking the head, work the tail.

GS is a great beginner weapon though, and a lot of fun.

Awesome! So start with GS and try LS later, and choose from there!

I know some of you guys were using xbox live to chat before, anyone still doing that? And... can you do that with silver?

Best thing for overall communication I've found is get a usb kb.

Yeah, I agree with this. I've done a little bit of xbox chat but it gets tedious because if one person doesn't have it, then you end up with the xbox running, your controller sitting to the side with your headset on (hoping it doesn't go to standby or your batteries don't die) and your keyboard on your lap and your wii controller sprawled out everywhere. It's more than a little ridiculous.

Keyboard is limited, but honestly there isn't a lot of chatting that needs to be done in MH unless you're playing with friends. Most of the time, even on xbox, my chat consisted of "zone (X)/need to mine (x)/attack the (x)/sorry if I just sent you flying/I need to heal, someone give me a POTION FOR THE LOVE OF GOD I'M ABOUT TO D...(silence as I die)

Oh wow, I totally forgot about just using my keyboard. Thanks again guys. I just ordered it so I should be hunting with you all in a few days!

Preacher · April 2010

UncleSporky wrote: »

Couple other questions from my noobish self.

Is it possible for weapons to BREAK break, or do you only ever need a whetstone?

What gets instantly fixed when you return to town? Stamina back to default, weapons sharp again? Admittedly I could figure this out pretty quickly, just wondered.

If you cut off parts of a monster that's still alive and kicking, do you have to get to those parts really quick before they despawn, or is there no risk of that?

Haven't seen a weapon break break, when they are red nicked, they are effectively useless though. In town everything comes back, weapon full strength, stam health, only your useables are wasted.

Monster parts do despawn after a time, usually when you do that the monster is about to flee for a bit (cutting off a part may also cause them to flee?), at the very least you usually have time to grab it even with a monster running around trying to kill you.

Bama · April 2010

Guys, I wouldn't recommend choosing a weapon based on popularity. I guess I can understand the desire to be "different," but you'll likely get a lot more enjoyment out of the game by using the weapon that feels most natural to you, especially starting out. You can always switch later, too. There are what I guess you'd call "milestone" weapons along the upgrade trees, so you don't have to start from scratch any time you want to try something new.

amateurhour wrote: »

Seriously, can someone please explain the new bowgun system to me. I'm trying to read it on the wiki and it's like instructions for installing a car stereo. I just don't get it.

I don't get all of the columns and frames and such. I need someone to break it down for me. I'd like a bowgun that can deal consistent damage, some heavy damage, and heal I guess, if that's possible. I also don't get the difference between folding and non folding, and the shields and item use.

I'm an idiot, but it just doesn't compute.

It can be a little intimidating, but you'll get the hang of it. Each part (maybe not stocks? can't remember) has an ammo capacity. Your total ammo capacity is the sum of all the parts, and this is done on a per-shot-type basis. If the part lists a shot type in yellow, that means it's rapid-fire. You only need one part with the rapid-fire trait to rapid-fire that ammo. All the other stats (attack power, recoil, reload speed, deviation) are similarly cumulative.

Folding stocks are I think more common on heavy bowguns and take a little bit longer to draw/sheathe. Shields are also a heavy bowgun mainstay and function similarly to Auto Guard on melee weapons that can block.

I hope that helps. If you have any other questions fire away (har har), as I'm learning all this for the first time myself and am happy to share.

DeMoN wrote: »

So when I use a bowgun, do I need to use gunner armor? I've used almost all my materials just making blademaster armor. I'm a little nervous to even try a bowgun with all the different ammo types that I have no idea how to make.

Yes, if the armor doesn't say "gunner" then you will not be able to equip it with a bowgun. When you equip the bowgun, any blademaster-only armor will go into the box.

Look Out it's Sabs! · April 2010

Does anyone know if there is some kind of online guide to item combos to make potions etc?

I barely have experimented myself so I don't know anything really at the moment.

mere_immortal · April 2010

Look Out it's Sabs! wrote: »

Does anyone know if there is some kind of online guide to item combos to make potions etc?

I barely have experimented myself so I don't know anything really at the moment.

http://monsterhunter.wikia.com/wiki/MH3%3A_Combination_List

flammiebc · April 2010

One thing I don't see people use much is the shield-advance; the ability to position while laughing off an attack is very useful, and even moreso underwater (the dash has a bit more distance).

I jumped in and played with Svevin & others last night, I'm definitely up for helping more people get geared. Not sure why I'm starting to get random disconnect errors (11668, I think), I assume Capcom's servers are starting to show the increased load.

UncleSporky · April 2010

Preacher wrote: »

UncleSporky wrote: »

Couple other questions from my noobish self.

Is it possible for weapons to BREAK break, or do you only ever need a whetstone?

What gets instantly fixed when you return to town? Stamina back to default, weapons sharp again? Admittedly I could figure this out pretty quickly, just wondered.

If you cut off parts of a monster that's still alive and kicking, do you have to get to those parts really quick before they despawn, or is there no risk of that?

Haven't seen a weapon break break, when they are red nicked, they are effectively useless though. In town everything comes back, weapon full strength, stam health, only your useables are wasted.

Monster parts do despawn after a time, usually when you do that the monster is about to flee for a bit (cutting off a part may also cause them to flee?), at the very least you usually have time to grab it even with a monster running around trying to kill you.

Thanks guy, this is good to know.

Also thanks Bama, I didn't mean to imply I was choosing a weapon based on popularity, I just wondered about the experience everyone was having. I didn't see much about the other weapons and wanted to know if they were super bad or just not as cool looking and thus still worth using.

amateurhour · April 2010

Bama wrote: »

stuff about bowguns.

that actually does help a lot. I get upgrading melee weapons, as each one basically has like one unifying mid level frame and then spawns off in to four or five different end level models. That made sense. The three part bowguns confused me though because I get that you can make six or seven complete guns based on specific monster parts, but the whole "hey, then you can take those apart and recombine them into frankenstein cannons kind of went over my head.

I think I've got enough spare parts to make a new set of gunner's hunter armor and a mid level bowgun with a rapid fire and healing, so I might put all of that together tonight and do some hunting.

edit: uncle sporky

I'd start off with the SnS just because it's the easiest to pick up and run with while still having the benefit of being able to run while carrying it, roll dodge, use items, and shield block, which can be very forgiving in early fights, although this is at the expense of constant sharpening and taking multiple hits to down an enemy.

Past that, just experiment. You can make the entire set of starting iron weapons for next to nothing, bought or forged, and then just practice on some herbavores/jaggia until you know what you like or don't like.

That's how I learned I didn't really like the lance/hammer

Estoc · April 2010

amateurhour wrote:

Seriously, can someone please explain the new bowgun system to me. I'm trying to read it on the wiki and it's like instructions for installing a car stereo. I just don't get it.

I don't get all of the columns and frames and such. I need someone to break it down for me. I'd like a bowgun that can deal consistent damage, some heavy damage, and heal I guess, if that's possible. I also don't get the difference between folding and non folding, and the shields and item use.

I'm an idiot, but it just doesn't compute.

The column charts basically determine the clip size for the different ammo types. Each part of a bowgun has a certain size for each ammo, and when the parts are put together, gives you your clip you can fire before reloading. Example: with a fully assembled Medium Bowgun, the three parts let it have a clip size of 6 shots with lvl2 Normal ammo. Of the three parts, one part gives 3 of the shots, one gives 2, and the other gives 1. It follow the same for every ammo type, and if none of the parts give any shots for the ammo, the completed Bowgun simply can't use the ammo. I found out the hard way when I wondered why I couldn't use the lvl1 Sub ammo I brought with me.

Now if the number on the chart is glowing, it means that that ammo type will have the rapidfire trait on the completed gun. I think only part needs a glower for the ammo type to rapidfire, though I haven't tried putting more than one yet. The full Medium Bowgun rapidfires lvl1 Normal ammo for what it's worth.

Shields are what it sounds like: it's mean the weapon will autoguard attacks from the front as long as you aren't shooting. Keep in mind you'll take a fair amount of bleedthrough damage as it isn't exactly a lance shield we're talking about here, and it eats through stamina like any other shield guard so don't try guarding something ridiculous.

Folding just means the Bowguns folds and unfolds when sheathed and unsheathed.

That's Bowguns in a nutshell. See, it's not so complicated. :?

Edit: GAH, beat'd.

Depressperado · April 2010

haha the switch axe is awesome, I just got the hang of the switching and weapon combos and I am fucking annihilating dudes.

oh hey great jaggi what are you up to oh look at that your head is broken now you are dead

shows you for killing me so many times jerk

Airan · April 2010

To further the Bowgun explanations, Folding or Unfolding determines the amount of time to setup and pack-up the weapon. The extra second a folding bowgun takes to pack up is all it takes to decide whether you get hit by a charging barroth or you get away scot free. On the other hand, most folding types are the heavy damage bowguns, if MH3 follows the logic of previous MHs.

[edit] d'oh, missed the earlier explanation, but i made it sound more important

Brainiac 8 · April 2010

As a complete newbie in the world of Monster Hunter, it can be quite a bit overwhelming.

Just wanted to thank you guys who are veterans for all the info your willing to give out here, it's been very helpful. :^:

Dracil · April 2010

Man, by the time I can properly play again at the end of the week everyone's gonna be like HR 40.

amateurhour · April 2010

Seriously, it's funny how great Jaggi doesn't even factor in after a while. He'll show up when I'm fighting something bigger and I'll just ignore him, unless he hits me, then I'll get pissed and slice him a few times and send him running back to whatever mommy he has.

Entaru · April 2010

Dracil wrote: »

Man, by the time I can properly play again at the end of the week everyone's gonna be like HR 40.

I feel the same. I have a final tomorrow and need to study tonight, helped a friend move yesterday. Looks like I won't get on until Wednesday at the earliest.

amateurhour · April 2010

Dracil wrote: »

Man, by the time I can properly play again at the end of the week everyone's gonna be like HR 40.

I did the tutorial first, and I've put in a total of 14 hours and I'm still at HR5, so it doesn't move as fast as you think.

Most of the higher ups here so far that I've played with are only HR14-17 and just recently unlocked 2* quests. (Not that I'm speaking for anyone in particular, it's just what I've seen playing with you guys)

edit:

What's the fastest way to make the monies? Is there a good list of items online that are worth selling because you'll never use them in a weapon/armor combo?

I've got a shit ton of items, enough to upgrade three weapons right now and probably make a 2nd or 3rd gen bowgun, but I have no money.

Estoc · April 2010

Yet the beginner Medium Bowgun is a fucking folder. And yes, that extra second pays its cost in pain.

Bama · April 2010

UncleSporky wrote: »

Also thanks Bama, I didn't mean to imply I was choosing a weapon based on popularity, I just wondered about the experience everyone was having. I didn't see much about the other weapons and wanted to know if they were super bad or just not as cool looking and thus still worth using.

Ah, cool. Also I didn't mean to come across like I was calling you out specifically. I've just seen that sentiment pop up a few times and felt like tossing in my 2z.

amateurhour · April 2010

Bama wrote: »

UncleSporky wrote: »

Also thanks Bama, I didn't mean to imply I was choosing a weapon based on popularity, I just wondered about the experience everyone was having. I didn't see much about the other weapons and wanted to know if they were super bad or just not as cool looking and thus still worth using.

Ah, cool. Also I didn't mean to come across like I was calling you out specifically. I've just seen that sentiment pop up a few times and felt like tossing in my 2z.

...goose

Bama · April 2010

Well AH I was just about to advise you on how to make some money but HONK.

amateurhour · April 2010

Bama wrote: »

Well AH I was just about to advise you on how to make some money but HONK.

Were you going to tell me to cook well done steak and sell it?

Seriously, that was actually advise given the other day on another site. You can make 5000z an hour cooking and selling well done steak!

Entaru · April 2010

amateurhour wrote: »

Bama wrote: »

Well AH I was just about to advise you on how to make some money but HONK.

Were you going to tell me to cook well done steak and sell it?

Seriously, that was actually advise given the other day on another site. You can make 5000z an hour cooking and selling well done steak!

I'm partially color blind and have a problem telling the difference in the color shades.

All my steaks are rare/burnt. I need to get the counting down.

Preacher · April 2010

amateurhour wrote: »

Bama wrote: »

Well AH I was just about to advise you on how to make some money but HONK.

Were you going to tell me to cook well done steak and sell it?

Seriously, that was actually advise given the other day on another site. You can make 5000z an hour cooking and selling well done steak!

Bah you can just kill the shit out of some enemies in the forest and rack up some good money from the hunt report. Also send your boats to the treasure coast, the eggs add up.

Preacher · April 2010

Entaru wrote: »

amateurhour wrote: »

Bama wrote: »

Well AH I was just about to advise you on how to make some money but HONK.

Were you going to tell me to cook well done steak and sell it?

Seriously, that was actually advise given the other day on another site. You can make 5000z an hour cooking and selling well done steak!

I'm partially color blind and have a problem telling the difference in the color shades.

All my steaks are rare/burnt. I need to get the counting down.

I do it based on the music.

Do you see like dogs do?

Dashui · April 2010

Entaru wrote: »

Dracil wrote: »

Man, by the time I can properly play again at the end of the week everyone's gonna be like HR 40.

I feel the same. I have a final tomorrow and need to study tonight, helped a friend move yesterday. Looks like I won't get on until Wednesday at the earliest.

The great thing about this game, though, is that high ranking players can play with low ranking players and still feel like they're getting decent rewards. Not to mention those high ranking players can get some satisfaction by using their new, shiny gear on monsters that used to give them trouble.

Bama · April 2010

My advice would be to check http://monsterhunter.wikia.com/wiki/MH3:_Offline_Quests (or the online quest list) and look at the quest (and subquest) rewards. Find a quest you think you can do quickly and repeat it a few times for cash. There are probably some ways to do it through trading as well, but I don't know anything more than the fact that the steel eggs you can get from the village fleet sell for 1k each.

I think the current event quest is pretty good cash if you can get a few other people.

Entaru · April 2010

Preacher wrote: »

Entaru wrote: »

amateurhour wrote: »

Bama wrote: »

Well AH I was just about to advise you on how to make some money but HONK.

Were you going to tell me to cook well done steak and sell it?

Seriously, that was actually advise given the other day on another site. You can make 5000z an hour cooking and selling well done steak!

I'm partially color blind and have a problem telling the difference in the color shades.

All my steaks are rare/burnt. I need to get the counting down.

I do it based on the music.

Do you see like dogs do?

No, it's only partial. I miss over half on those stupid number tests.

I can see it change color the first time and the last time but the second change looks the same as the first change to me.

chiablo · April 2010

Bama wrote: »

Guys, I wouldn't recommend choosing a weapon based on popularity. I guess I can understand the desire to be "different," but you'll likely get a lot more enjoyment out of the game by using the weapon that feels most natural to you, especially starting out. You can always switch later, too. There are what I guess you'd call "milestone" weapons along the upgrade trees, so you don't have to start from scratch any time you want to try something new.

Here's what I don't want to happen:

Group Leader:
"OK, guys... let's skewer that big dragon over there."

*Two minutes later*

Dragon:
"Lookatme! Ima pincushion!"

Entaru · April 2010

chiablo wrote: »

Bama wrote: »

Guys, I wouldn't recommend choosing a weapon based on popularity. I guess I can understand the desire to be "different," but you'll likely get a lot more enjoyment out of the game by using the weapon that feels most natural to you, especially starting out. You can always switch later, too. There are what I guess you'd call "milestone" weapons along the upgrade trees, so you don't have to start from scratch any time you want to try something new.

Here's what I don't want to happen:

Group Leader:
"OK, guys... let's skewer that big dragon over there."

*Two minutes later*

Dragon:
"Lookatme! Ima pincushion!"

You're going to get that much easier if you like the weapon you're using though, right?

Preacher · April 2010

Entaru wrote: »

chiablo wrote: »

Bama wrote: »

Guys, I wouldn't recommend choosing a weapon based on popularity. I guess I can understand the desire to be "different," but you'll likely get a lot more enjoyment out of the game by using the weapon that feels most natural to you, especially starting out. You can always switch later, too. There are what I guess you'd call "milestone" weapons along the upgrade trees, so you don't have to start from scratch any time you want to try something new.

Here's what I don't want to happen:

Group Leader:
"OK, guys... let's skewer that big dragon over there."

*Two minutes later*

Dragon:
"Lookatme! Ima pincushion!"

You're going to get that much easier if you like the weapon you're using though, right?

Well of course.

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