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So what makes Stephen Hawking an expert all of a sudden
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And Mongols may have had some sweet horse archery but I don't think you can argue that they were more advanced than the muslim world of the time.
Yeah they do that every couple of years.
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of course not
The Mongols didn't need to be more advanced technologically. All they had to do was what they'd always done- be awesome tacticians and lightning fast merciless killers. I mean, they also unified a lot of China, but the destruction of Baghdad by the Mongols was a key factor in the decline of the Middle East.
Who did the Mongols conquer who were more advanced of a society than they? Not trying to be obtuse, I just don;t really know a lot about the Mongol Empire other than it was huge.
Also that is a good point about 'technologically superior' being a vague definition. I think what I'm trying to describe is like from that Banks novel Excession: an 'Outside-Context Problem'.
So in history, when has a technologically/culturally superior society come into first contact (this is important, not just warred with but actually discovered for the first time) with another society which is demonstrably less superior in many regards, and been rebuffed successfully, leaving the 'lesser' society to thrive and the 'greater' to eventually fall first?
What I'm getting at is, the way I see it, if humanity came into contact with a spacefaring race tomorrow, we would be subjugated in some fashion, eventually. Either militarily, culturally, or ecologically, or by some other metric, not necessarily deleterious; but we would be subsumed somehow - we would become part of their history, but they would not be a part of ours.
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everyone always burns down the libraries and destroys the books
they even filled the damn irrigation systems
mongols were fucking dicks
China and Iraq
Mongols really were history's greatest dicks.
Seriously nazis ain't got nothing on mongols.
how about where the christian religion sent society as a whole tumbling backwards through time and set civilization back centuries from what the romans had advanced to
How was it christianity that did that?
I was under the impression that the sacking of rome was done by pagans.
Actually, no, that is a commonly perpetrated urban legend. In reality, there was just that one thing.
I'm kind of fond of the whole 'Romans didn't actually do shit, they just stole stuff from all the supposedly barbaric civilizations they conquered and shit would have been fucked even if the empire didn't fall apart' idea
it's based more on TV history than actual historical study though, so feel free to pick holes in it if you know better
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i destroyed the roman empire
sorry guys but you have to admit that the whole boy-diddling thing wasn't cool
anyway the greeks were more into boy-diddling than the romans, weren't they?
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to llama yes the greeks were major diddlers
diddling erryday
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Ras-Al-Ghul? does that mean you are going to destroy the PA forums next? Have we reached the limits of depravity?
man if i still ransacked a bitch for depravity we both know that this whole side of the internet would've been nuked a decade ago
nah i haven't sacked the same since i threw out my back in '64
Granted we don't have anything else to go on, but still.
Satans..... hints..... I'm a mo bro!
You're right. That was basically a linchpin for everything
Changing the the cultural fabric of Rome while it was already getting its ass kicked by Germanic raiders and economic trouble is generally considered to have weakened it further.
back in the sixties
the actual sixties, mind you
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They also slaughtered millions of people, but I guess Kublai was useful so that makes up for it?
Most tribes had first contact with traders and religious missionaries. I think if we kill and eat the first few aliens that come to our planet then we will have some time to plan our next move before the cultural contamination and cross fertilization begins in earnest.
What
Are you seriously suggesting the possibility that some of our species already achieved the ability to travel to and settle other worlds and we just forgot
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woah woah wait
you
you think any other planet has human life
human life that we could breed with