Violence doesn't concern me nearly as much as the sexual content. I have a sister who likes to watch movies of a disturbing nature. The more messed up the movie is, and the more the characters suffer emotionally, the more she enjoys the movie. Because of this I have accidentally seen a lot of very disturbing movie scenes, including one where a twelve year old girl castrates a full grown man (I didn't catch the plot but apparently because he raped her earlier in the movie that is okayo_O). She has the guy tied down and has this long conversation about how every time he uses a public restroom he is going to be reminded that he is the only guy in their without testicles. I thought about nothing but how disturbing that scene was for weeks.
Regular violence has never really bothered me, but I feel mentally/emotionally scarred by some of the sexual content I've seen portrayed in movies. I was exposed to movies with rape and men getting castrated at a young age... I spent a lot of time as a child wondering whether I should sleep on my stomache or on my back. I was worried if I slept on my back I would wake up tied to my bed with some girl getting ready to castrate me, and that if I slept on my stomache I was going to wake up to getting raped.
I can't imagine what it might have done to that girl, to be known as "that girl that cuts that guys testicles off in a movie". For anyone interested I don't know what the movie is called, nor do I want to. I really wish I could forget I ever saw it.
I was terrified about aliens abducting me because of the x-files (and all of the alien related tv programming that was presented as "Fact", like discovery channel stuff) until around age 12. I think that's probably the most pathetic "disturbed by tv/movie" thing ever.
When I was 6-8, I was terrified of being abducted by aliens, being abducted by aliens and being replaced with a clone, and terrified that maybe the real me was already abducted by aliens and I was the clone.
I actually still avoid very gore centric, or cheap shock horror movies/games, they linger with me for too long. As a kid, since my mom works for the news, news stories of real violence were on the tv alot. So in a weird way, I can deal with real contexts without it sticking in my head (war movies, serial killers) But fake thrillers make my mind spin with secondary imagery, either trying to build on the plot or flesh out a scene, its usually a week before I shake it and don't think about it before I sleep.
Its identical to what I did as a kid minus the lucid hallucination day dreams. My imagination was terrifying.
I'm actually surprised at the amount of campfire stories and books that get overlooked as being fucking terrifying for kids. Imagery is not always necessary. There was one of a dude that strung up a girls dog in the bathroom, and then laid by her bed and licked her hand when ever she draped it over the side, looking for comfort. Crazy dude leaves a note on the dog carcass in the bathroom that says "humans can lick too, dear." What the fuck was that. why was I told that in like elementary school.
Violence doesn't concern me nearly as much as the sexual content. I have a sister who likes to watch movies of a disturbing nature. The more messed up the movie is, and the more the characters suffer emotionally, the more she enjoys the movie. Because of this I have accidentally seen a lot of very disturbing movie scenes, including one where a twelve year old girl castrates a full grown man (I didn't catch the plot but apparently because he raped her earlier in the movie that is okayo_O). She has the guy tied down and has this long conversation about how every time he uses a public restroom he is going to be reminded that he is the only guy in their without testicles. I thought about nothing but how disturbing that scene was for weeks.
Regular violence has never really bothered me, but I feel mentally/emotionally scarred by some of the sexual content I've seen portrayed in movies. I was exposed to movies with rape and men getting castrated at a young age... I spent a lot of time as a child wondering whether I should sleep on my stomache or on my back. I was worried if I slept on my back I would wake up tied to my bed with some girl getting ready to castrate me, and that if I slept on my stomache I was going to wake up to getting raped.
I can't imagine what it might have done to that girl, to be known as "that girl that cuts that guys testicles off in a movie". For anyone interested I don't know what the movie is called, nor do I want to. I really wish I could forget I ever saw it.
That was Hard Candy, and Ellen Page was 18 or 19, playing a 14 year old.
Most, if not all, of this type of content in movies is "faked" in one way or another (older actors, body doubles, camera or editing tricks). Otherwise it would be, you know, illegal.
Also, I'm pretty sure Page is doing alright, being a successful acress and all.
I was exposed to movies with rape and men getting castrated at a young age... I spent a lot of time as a child wondering whether I should sleep on my stomache or on my back. I was worried if I slept on my back I would wake up tied to my bed with some girl getting ready to castrate me, and that if I slept on my stomache I was going to wake up to getting raped.
So what did you end up going with, rape or castration?
(I've heard from a person familiar with Hollywood that when two people are "having sex" in a film, they actually are having sex as often as not. Like, during filming. Dunno if it's true or not, but I suppose it wouldn't surprise me.)
Yeah... Okay... Jeffe? This person? Is full of shit.
Unless they were talking about actual porn... Were they talking about actual porn?
Shooting things like love scene, with all the multiple camera angles and close-up and what not can take the better part of a day or more. Just to get a minute of screen time. If real fucking is going on, then why bother to spend any time with it? Why are there so many stories of actresses (and actors) who find these scenes difficult to do since they all universally admit there is nothing particularly erotic or a turn on about being in a brightly lit room with a dozen people standing around watching and some dude suggesting you moan louder?
That there might be accidental contact (possibly even slight penetration)? Yeah, sure. I could buy that as a possibility. That this was so regular that it happens at least half the time? Nope.
Anyway, as for the topic? Why should children be so protected that fictional portrayals of violence (or sex) should be forbidden. The Kick-Ass thing is kind of the point. Hit-Girl is what happens to Robin when 'shit gets real'. And as far as the well being of kids on the set? That shit's monitored more than animal activity. To the kids, it's just part of the job. No more than anything else they might be asked to do.
Except on a James Cameron set. That guy puts his cast in harm's way seemingly just for kicks. I sure as hell wouldn't let my kids work with that guy.
I went with rape. I believe in the Bible it says "a man who has crushed stones shall not enter the kingdom of heaven," stones being testicles. I was deathly afraid of going to hell.
So? 32 titles in forty years, most of them being made outside of the US with at least one of them being a documentary (about a porn film). And another being a movie that was 'legitimate' until Bob Guccione filmed and inserted sex scenes after the fact. Yeah, that's 'as often as not'.
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When I was 6-8, I was terrified of being abducted by aliens, being abducted by aliens and being replaced with a clone, and terrified that maybe the real me was already abducted by aliens and I was the clone.
I blame Star Trek.
My fear was that what if I'd been abducted a bunch of times but don't remember it because they wiped my mind
Its identical to what I did as a kid minus the lucid hallucination day dreams. My imagination was terrifying.
I'm actually surprised at the amount of campfire stories and books that get overlooked as being fucking terrifying for kids. Imagery is not always necessary. There was one of a dude that strung up a girls dog in the bathroom, and then laid by her bed and licked her hand when ever she draped it over the side, looking for comfort. Crazy dude leaves a note on the dog carcass in the bathroom that says "humans can lick too, dear." What the fuck was that. why was I told that in like elementary school.
That was Hard Candy, and Ellen Page was 18 or 19, playing a 14 year old.
Most, if not all, of this type of content in movies is "faked" in one way or another (older actors, body doubles, camera or editing tricks). Otherwise it would be, you know, illegal.
Also, I'm pretty sure Page is doing alright, being a successful acress and all.
So what did you end up going with, rape or castration?
Sorry, I find that a little funny and had to ask.
Yeah... Okay... Jeffe? This person? Is full of shit.
Unless they were talking about actual porn... Were they talking about actual porn?
Shooting things like love scene, with all the multiple camera angles and close-up and what not can take the better part of a day or more. Just to get a minute of screen time. If real fucking is going on, then why bother to spend any time with it? Why are there so many stories of actresses (and actors) who find these scenes difficult to do since they all universally admit there is nothing particularly erotic or a turn on about being in a brightly lit room with a dozen people standing around watching and some dude suggesting you moan louder?
That there might be accidental contact (possibly even slight penetration)? Yeah, sure. I could buy that as a possibility. That this was so regular that it happens at least half the time? Nope.
Anyway, as for the topic? Why should children be so protected that fictional portrayals of violence (or sex) should be forbidden. The Kick-Ass thing is kind of the point. Hit-Girl is what happens to Robin when 'shit gets real'. And as far as the well being of kids on the set? That shit's monitored more than animal activity. To the kids, it's just part of the job. No more than anything else they might be asked to do.
Except on a James Cameron set. That guy puts his cast in harm's way seemingly just for kicks. I sure as hell wouldn't let my kids work with that guy.
So? 32 titles in forty years, most of them being made outside of the US with at least one of them being a documentary (about a porn film). And another being a movie that was 'legitimate' until Bob Guccione filmed and inserted sex scenes after the fact. Yeah, that's 'as often as not'.