like there are some lines that we weren't meant to cross, and this is definitely one of them
this kind of stuff really should be something that the people get to vote on whether this research continues, since we all have to deal with the consequences when something goes horribly wrong
i really don't think you understand what went down here, not to be condescending.
its really not that different than methods we already use, just on a larger scale.
and they also repeatedly said it is VERY difficult
do you know what the consequences of this could be? does anyone?
we have no idea what kind of harm this could do to people
our bodies are the way they are for a reason, nature is supposed to take care of that, not some rogue scientists. And yes I know "WHAT ABOUT MEDICINE" but still, that's waaaaaaay short of getting into this creepy artificial DNA splicing for who-knows-what purpose.
Really I don't see what the point of this is in the first place, humans have done pretty well so far without having to turn ourselves into some kind of horrible gattaca society
do you know what the consequences of this could be? does anyone?
we have no idea what kind of harm this could do to people
our bodies are the way they are for a reason, nature is supposed to take care of that, not some rogue scientists. And yes I know "WHAT ABOUT MEDICINE" but still, that's waaaaaaay short of getting into this creepy artificial DNA splicing for who-knows-what purpose.
Really I don't see what the point of this is in the first place, humans have done pretty well so far without having to turn ourselves into some kind of horrible gattaca society
Be careful on that slope you are standing on... it looks a little slippery.
do you know what the consequences of this could be? does anyone?
we have no idea what kind of harm this could do to people
our bodies are the way they are for a reason, nature is supposed to take care of that, not some rogue scientists. And yes I know "WHAT ABOUT MEDICINE" but still, that's waaaaaaay short of getting into this creepy artificial DNA splicing for who-knows-what purpose.
Really I don't see what the point of this is in the first place, humans have done pretty well so far without having to turn ourselves into some kind of horrible gattaca society
you aren't saying anything intelligent here
you're basically just saying, "I DON'T UNDERSTAND ANY OF THIS SO I'M JUST GOING TO FREAK OUT ABOUT IT BECAUSE ANYTHING COULD HAPPEN ACCORDING TO MY POORLY EDUCATED PERSPECTIVE"
there are valid concerns, but you're just being an ignorant clod crying about the sky falling because you're too ignorant to realize how out of your depth you are
which frankly is what really scares me
all the ignorant masses insisting that something be stopped because they're too lazy to educate themselves and participate in an intelligent discussion on the topic
do you know what the consequences of this could be? does anyone?
we have no idea what kind of harm this could do to people
our bodies are the way they are for a reason, nature is supposed to take care of that, not some rogue scientists. And yes I know "WHAT ABOUT MEDICINE" but still, that's waaaaaaay short of getting into this creepy artificial DNA splicing for who-knows-what purpose.
Really I don't see what the point of this is in the first place, humans have done pretty well so far without having to turn ourselves into some kind of horrible gattaca society
this is nowhere near anything like gattaca
at all
this only works in bacteria, and even then the mechanism of HOW it works is still unclear. the best guess is that two bacterial cells fuse over copies of the synthetic genome- its not directly injected
check the thread in D&D for a rundown, a few of us trawled the papers to figure out how it was done
basically this is like what I said- very similar in concept to nuclear transfer (the method used to clone dolly the sheep) and it has about the same success rate and only applies to prokaryotes
of course, since bacteria reproduce exponentially, they can more than cover for a 1 in 150,000 chance of transplantation
so this is cool, but nothing really THAT groundbreaking and CERTAINLY not something to get into a panic about
my only worry about this kind of thing is the potential damage that an engineered organism could do to an ecosystem
not in terms of it being magically better or evil or something
just in the sense that what seems to be a fairly innocuous change to an ecosystem (rabbits) can sometimes do a lot of damage (rabbits now rule australia send in the troops)
my only worry about this kind of thing is the potential damage that an engineered organism could do to an ecosystem
not in terms of it being magically better or evil or something
just in the sense that what seems to be a fairly innocuous change to an ecosystem (rabbits) can sometimes do a lot of damage (rabbits now rule australia send in the troops)
this is literally one of the two reasons I don't support GMO crops currently
the other one has to do with gene patents and the holders of those patents
do you know what the consequences of this could be? does anyone?
we have no idea what kind of harm this could do to people
our bodies are the way they are for a reason, nature is supposed to take care of that, not some rogue scientists. And yes I know "WHAT ABOUT MEDICINE" but still, that's waaaaaaay short of getting into this creepy artificial DNA splicing for who-knows-what purpose.
Really I don't see what the point of this is in the first place, humans have done pretty well so far without having to turn ourselves into some kind of horrible gattaca society
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Went down like:
Monkey 1: Me and a few friends have decided to evolve?
Monkey 2: What are the benefits?
Monkey 1: Well we can work jobs we hate all day instead of eating bananas and fucking.
Monkey 2: Good luck with that.
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Selling your daughter into slavery because you have debts is OK though. Just saying.
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i really don't think you understand what went down here, not to be condescending.
its really not that different than methods we already use, just on a larger scale.
and they also repeatedly said it is VERY difficult
exactly
clones are bad! someone might clone me and steal my identity
uh, monozygotic twins are natural clones so are they bad? most people are horribly ignorant on these issues
it's also nice to see that Europe didn't impart any wisdom on Shank and that he's the same pretentious bag of useless hot air he was before
also that skull is pretty ignorant on this shit and should either educate himself or shut the fuck up
I want my ameglian major cow damnit.
we have no idea what kind of harm this could do to people
our bodies are the way they are for a reason, nature is supposed to take care of that, not some rogue scientists. And yes I know "WHAT ABOUT MEDICINE" but still, that's waaaaaaay short of getting into this creepy artificial DNA splicing for who-knows-what purpose.
Really I don't see what the point of this is in the first place, humans have done pretty well so far without having to turn ourselves into some kind of horrible gattaca society
nature ain't take care of shit
Be careful on that slope you are standing on... it looks a little slippery.
you aren't saying anything intelligent here
you're basically just saying, "I DON'T UNDERSTAND ANY OF THIS SO I'M JUST GOING TO FREAK OUT ABOUT IT BECAUSE ANYTHING COULD HAPPEN ACCORDING TO MY POORLY EDUCATED PERSPECTIVE"
there are valid concerns, but you're just being an ignorant clod crying about the sky falling because you're too ignorant to realize how out of your depth you are
which frankly is what really scares me
all the ignorant masses insisting that something be stopped because they're too lazy to educate themselves and participate in an intelligent discussion on the topic
this is nowhere near anything like gattaca
at all
this only works in bacteria, and even then the mechanism of HOW it works is still unclear. the best guess is that two bacterial cells fuse over copies of the synthetic genome- its not directly injected
check the thread in D&D for a rundown, a few of us trawled the papers to figure out how it was done
You're missing a location.
It should be
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of course, since bacteria reproduce exponentially, they can more than cover for a 1 in 150,000 chance of transplantation
so this is cool, but nothing really THAT groundbreaking and CERTAINLY not something to get into a panic about
but it's SCIENCE
that's scary
i mean
no it isnt
not in terms of it being magically better or evil or something
just in the sense that what seems to be a fairly innocuous change to an ecosystem (rabbits) can sometimes do a lot of damage (rabbits now rule australia send in the troops)
Where do I sign up to get my venomous lobster arm?
this is literally one of the two reasons I don't support GMO crops currently
the other one has to do with gene patents and the holders of those patents
do you want superorgans or not
thats it i am defecting to the orks
Yeah fuck those Type I diabetics
who legitimately asked me how monkeys still exist if we evolved from them
Monkey 1: Me and a few friends have decided to evolve?
Monkey 2: What are the benefits?
Monkey 1: Well we can work jobs we hate all day instead of eating bananas and fucking.
Monkey 2: Good luck with that.
gotta get dem oxygen levels up to the woopy di woop
also engineered species are potentially dangerous
to wit: africanized bees and love bugs
Wait, what how is it sad?
"Well because they're millions of people starving around the world and they're putting money into this."
What a dumb reaction.
What spring does with the cherry trees.
"oh you want to study evolution? how will that help people? Why dont you like...work on curing cancer?"
Are you sure she didn't think you were talking about Project Runway?
did you inform her that this could potentially be used to produce bacteria that break down plastic into it's base elements
I think there are comic books involved here
it's me