The New COMIC Thread 06-04-10

Munkus Beaver · June 2010

Holy shit, this comic is great.

PiptheFair · June 2010

A Dabble Of Thelonius wrote: »

The level of preparedness for an event like this was on par with their plans to defend against a unicorn attack.

well that's easy

you just call voldemort

motherfucker just loves eating unicorns

Diorinix · June 2010

FYI - as an oilfield worker, lots of shit with this BP blowout was fucked up.

1. The Blowout Preventer (BOP) - Was rented out by Cameron (another international oilfield services company like Halliburton) with the express warning that that particular BOP was not 100% suited to the environment conditions that BP had planned on using it for, and had a high likelihood of failure. BP used it anyway.

2. Circulation system - Wells are drilled in multiple stages, always lined with steel pipe called casing for each stage. These stages are supposed to be cemented in for isolation between pressure or hydrocarbon zones by differing diameters of casing. What I've been told occurred at the point of "blowout" (uncontrolled release of pressure), is that instead of using fluid dynamics to force the drilling fluid out of the annulus (the space between well bore and casing) and up to surface by the cement "pill", the call was made to flush the drilling fluid out with WATER. The whole idea of drilling fluid is that it's dense enough, due to additives and solubles, to contain whatever wellbore pressure is present. Water has none of this density, so almost immediately the well kicked back at them. The BOP failed to shut in the pressure (as per the equipment provider's warnings), and the secondary system at the rig floor failed as well.

Now, this is mostly hearsay, but it does follow what I've leared from my 7-8 years of experience with drilling and oilfield work. Your first line of defense from the wellbore pressure is ALWAYS your circulation of drilling fluid. Fucking with that system is just begging for problems. Intentionally installing a emergency shut down system (the BOP) that was not intended to be used under that pressure at the sea floor is poor well planning. BP is pretty much fully at fault here for all of these situations. Government ensuring that they had an emergency spill response plan wouldn't have saved BP from fucking up the situation from the start.

The Geek · June 2010

Diorinix wrote: »

FYI - as an oilfield worker, lots of shit with this BP blowout was fucked up.

1. The Blowout Preventer (BOP) - Was rented out by Cameron (another international oilfield services company like Halliburton) with the express warning that that particular BOP was not 100% suited to the environment conditions that BP had planned on using it for, and had a high likelihood of failure. BP used it anyway.

2. Circulation system - Wells are drilled in multiple stages, always lined with steel pipe called casing for each stage. These stages are supposed to be cemented in for isolation between pressure or hydrocarbon zones by differing diameters of casing. What I've been told occurred at the point of "blowout" (uncontrolled release of pressure), is that instead of using fluid dynamics to force the drilling fluid out of the annulus (the space between well bore and casing) and up to surface by the cement "pill", the call was made to flush the drilling fluid out with WATER. The whole idea of drilling fluid is that it's dense enough, due to additives and solubles, to contain whatever wellbore pressure is present. Water has none of this density, so almost immediately the well kicked back at them. The BOP failed to shut in the pressure (as per the equipment provider's warnings), and the secondary system at the rig floor failed as well.

Now, this is mostly hearsay, but it does follow what I've leared from my 7-8 years of experience with drilling and oilfield work. Your first line of defense from the wellbore pressure is ALWAYS your circulation of drilling fluid. Fucking with that system is just begging for problems. Intentionally installing a emergency shut down system (the BOP) that was not intended to be used under that pressure at the sea floor is poor well planning. BP is pretty much fully at fault here for all of these situations. Government ensuring that they had an emergency spill response plan wouldn't have saved BP from fucking up the situation from the start.

Maybe they should have used the Hanson Laboratories designed Maximum Magnitude Management Blowout Preventer instead.

Diorinix · June 2010

The Geek wrote: »

Diorinix wrote: »

FYI - as an oilfield worker, lots of shit with this BP blowout was fucked up.

1. The Blowout Preventer (BOP) - Was rented out by Cameron (another international oilfield services company like Halliburton) with the express warning that that particular BOP was not 100% suited to the environment conditions that BP had planned on using it for, and had a high likelihood of failure. BP used it anyway.

2. Circulation system - Wells are drilled in multiple stages, always lined with steel pipe called casing for each stage. These stages are supposed to be cemented in for isolation between pressure or hydrocarbon zones by differing diameters of casing. What I've been told occurred at the point of "blowout" (uncontrolled release of pressure), is that instead of using fluid dynamics to force the drilling fluid out of the annulus (the space between well bore and casing) and up to surface by the cement "pill", the call was made to flush the drilling fluid out with WATER. The whole idea of drilling fluid is that it's dense enough, due to additives and solubles, to contain whatever wellbore pressure is present. Water has none of this density, so almost immediately the well kicked back at them. The BOP failed to shut in the pressure (as per the equipment provider's warnings), and the secondary system at the rig floor failed as well.

Now, this is mostly hearsay, but it does follow what I've leared from my 7-8 years of experience with drilling and oilfield work. Your first line of defense from the wellbore pressure is ALWAYS your circulation of drilling fluid. Fucking with that system is just begging for problems. Intentionally installing a emergency shut down system (the BOP) that was not intended to be used under that pressure at the sea floor is poor well planning. BP is pretty much fully at fault here for all of these situations. Government ensuring that they had an emergency spill response plan wouldn't have saved BP from fucking up the situation from the start.

Maybe they should have used the Hanson Laboratories designed Maximum Magnitude Management Blowout Preventer instead.

Who knows, that's not the field I'm in. I'm AWARE of what the function of the equipment is, and why it's so important, but I don't have a handbook on that product line.

Lord Dave · June 2010

hehe... annulus

Darmak · June 2010

Lord Dave, are you talking about butts again?

The Geek · June 2010

Oh c'mon, no one's gonna get it?

Nocturne · June 2010

The Geek wrote: »

Oh c'mon, no one's gonna get it?

Ahahahaha it took me a minute

Alright that was pretty good.

Diorinix · June 2010

Nocturne wrote: »

The Geek wrote: »

Oh c'mon, no one's gonna get it?

Ahahahaha it took me a minute

Alright that was pretty good.

It's funnier if you add a Borat-style fake accent...

Ann-yoo-loos.

The Geek · June 2010

Diorinix wrote: »

Nocturne wrote: »

The Geek wrote: »

Oh c'mon, no one's gonna get it?

Ahahahaha it took me a minute

Alright that was pretty good.

It's funnier if you add a Borat-style fake accent...

Ann-yoo-loos.

Not what I'm talking about.

Nocturne · June 2010

Alternatively they should have used a better BOP

Spoiler:

Diorinix · June 2010

Nocturne wrote: »

Alternatively they should have used a better BOP

Spoiler:

Black border that shit, yo.

Spoiler:

Tonkka · June 2010

This is a good birthday comic.

BYToady · June 2010

The Geek wrote: »

Diorinix wrote: »

Nocturne wrote: »

The Geek wrote: »

Oh c'mon, no one's gonna get it?

Ahahahaha it took me a minute

Alright that was pretty good.

It's funnier if you add a Borat-style fake accent...

Ann-yoo-loos.

Not what I'm talking about.

I got it Geek, I got it.

Seriously · June 2010

The Geek wrote: »

Oh c'mon, no one's gonna get it?

I got it

and then in a desperate grab for my fleeing sanity I un-got it

Fallout · June 2010

ahahahaha this comic

Kuribo's Shoe · June 2010

Hunter wrote: »

Talking about this at work and on the web, I always think of that great prophet George Carlin and his piece about saving the planet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eScDfYzMEEw

Everyone is so worried about how this oil leak will kill the planet and the planet is doomed. No. The planet will survive. It will self heal like its done for millions of years, slowly filtering the oil and organic poisons away and spawning new life where old life has died.

On the other hand, people are fucked. Pack your shit folks, the planet is bleeding and I think it's pissed. I'm waiting for a tornado, volcanic eruption, or earthquake to hit, just to remind us who's fucking with who.

I love this

I love George Carlin

I love you

mully · June 2010

i wore a tetris shirt today at work and my few nerdy friends there were like "oh haha you must've seen the PA comic this morning"

and i was like "what no"

now i understand

<:__)~ · June 2010

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwC544Z37qo

Watching the NES video reminded me of this video that I saw, I think, in the you tubes thread at one point.

Speed Racer · June 2010

It's been about 4 years since I was real obsessive about it, but in my prime I probably could have gotten an okay score on that mode.

the invisible stuff is fucking ridiculous though.

Speed Racer · June 2010

My crowning Tetris achievement was when I beat a guy online on Tetris DS who was obviously hacking.

bawkbawkboo1 · June 2010

Even if they magically stop the leak at the bottom of the ocean tomorrow (which they won't) the amount of oil already in the ocean, and the wetlands that are already fouled, is enormous. You can still find oil in Prince William Sound from Exxon Valdez if you dig a little bit on the shoreline. That thick crude shit just doesn't degrade quickly. Eventually bacteria will break it down, but it could take 30-40 years for the oil being spilled now to go away completely. Generally it degrades more quickly in warmer places like the gulf than it would in Alaska, just because bacteria grow better in warm water, but its still long-term devastation.

Rolo · June 2010

bawkbawkboo1 wrote: »

Even if they magically stop the leak at the bottom of the ocean tomorrow (which they won't) the amount of oil already in the ocean, and the wetlands that are already fouled, is enormous. You can still find oil in Prince William Sound from Exxon Valdez if you dig a little bit on the shoreline. That thick crude shit just doesn't degrade quickly. Eventually bacteria will break it down, but it could take 30-40 years for the oil being spilled now to go away completely. Generally it degrades more quickly in warmer places like the gulf than it would in Alaska, just because bacteria grow better in warm water, but its still long-term devastation.

I for one am upset that the environment is leeching all of our hard-earned oil without paying a fair price for it, and that potential freeloaders could be getting rich off the system just by turning on their taps to get free oil... taps which they're already using to get free water!

PikaPuff · June 2010

They should just nuke the pipes and hope for the best.

Rolo · June 2010

PikaPuff wrote: »

They should just nuke the pipes and hope for the best.

NUKE THE OCEAN

Skull Man · June 2010

gotta nuke somethin

L|ama · June 2010

Yeah it's pretty much the worst ecological disaster ever, yet somehow I'm not even angry about it. It's weird.

SabreMau · June 2010

Well, it's big, but at least it'll be able to be diluted to natural oil seepage levels within years and won't render the area off-limits for decades like Chernobyl did to a sizeable area of Ukranian forest.

L|ama · June 2010

yeah but with chernobyl you get cool irradiated wildlife and shit, with this you just get a fucked up ecosystem for a few decades

Henroid · June 2010

Rolo wrote: »

PikaPuff wrote: »

They should just nuke the pipes and hope for the best.

NUKE THE OCEAN

Hey it worked for Russia.

ThatDudeOverThere · June 2010

WE'LL BLOW UP THE OCEAN!

Cilla Black · June 2010

gotta watch those now

thanks a lot (no really, they're awesome)

Henroid · June 2010

ThatDudeOverThere wrote: »

WE'LL BLOW UP THE OCEAN!

Fuck yes!

Arrath · June 2010

L|ama wrote: »

yeah but with chernobyl you get cool irradiated wildlife and shit, with this you just get a fucked up ecosystem for a few decades

And STALKER.

...STALKER combined with Oil-Bioshock. Hmmm.

Seriously · June 2010

Stabbin yourself with syringes full of OIL to get more OIL POWERS

You encounter an oil-soaked bird, a choice

A: Clean

X: Harvest

Rhesus Positive · June 2010

Bioilshock.

Goatmon · June 2010

Dely Apple wrote: »

That tetris youtube was like watching God play

and God too, like his progeny, waits for the four-bar piece to come down already

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Alw5hs0chj0

Langly · June 2010

I love that commentators have been calling this Obama's Katrina, which makes no god damned sense.

Katrina was a natural disaster. The government has an entire organization that is supposed to be equipped to aid places hit too hard to sustain themselves. The whole idea of FEMA is that they can do this, and they failed.

The oil spill is because a corporation done fucked up. The government doesn't haven any sort of equipment to handle it, because it's not an oil company. All it can do is get on BP's ass and make them pay out for what they've done.

Goose! · June 2010

Langly wrote: »

I love that commentators have been calling this Obama's Katrina, which makes no god damned sense.

Katrina was a natural disaster. The government has an entire organization that is supposed to be equipped to aid places hit too hard to sustain themselves. The whole idea of FEMA is that they can do this, and they failed.

The oil spill is because a corporation done fucked up. The government doesn't haven any sort of equipment to handle it, because it's not an oil company. All it can do is get on BP's ass and make them pay out for what they've done.

Basically they're trying to find anyway to make Obama look like the devil.

Obama's Katrina
Obama's Waterloo
Obama's Watergate

I'm surprised this Flotila raid hasn't been called Obama's Cuban Missile Crisis yet.

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