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[Samurai On] Sengoku Basara Samurai Heroes - Put your F-ing guns on tomorrow!

blaze_zeroblaze_zero Registered User regular
edited January 2011 in Games and Technology
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Sengoku Basara Samurai Heroes
or
Sengoku Basara 3

HOW DO I PLAY THE DEMO?
Spoiler:

Game is due out on Oct. 12 in the States.

Go watch Sengoku Basara Season 1 on Hulu! Season 2 has already started airing!


New and Recent Things

-Last playable characters is Nobunaga Oda.


-Body Guard System
It seems that you can now bring a body guard into battle. There are supposed to be about 100 of them or so. Not sure how unique they are, but you can bring NPCs like Katakura Kojuuro and Sarutobi Sasuke with you. They will do their Basara Attack when you activate yours.

-Item System
You no longer select a set of five items. Now, all items are attached to weapons. Not sure how exactly it changes everything, but there are a ton of items in the this game. Expect to be collecting a lot. Some of them may be materials?

-More unique NPC characters.
There are some more boss NPC characters hanging around now. Tachibana Muneshige is one (he's got chainsaw swords???), along with quite a few others including a follow of Xabi-ism. (Thankfully Xabi is not in this game)

-Even more gigantic enemies
Ugh, these guys. These giant enemies are usually midbosses or something. I hope they aren't as annoying to take down as before. They can wreck your shit from 0 to 60 in about two seconds.

What is it?

The newest sequel to Capcom's hack-and-slash clone of Dynasty Warriors. This game, unlike Samurai Warriors, is light on history and more focused on action and flair. Need proof? The guys who worked on Devil May Cry are on this.

What's new/different?


There's a lot different from the previous version that you didn't get to play unless you imported it. No, I'm not talking about the abomination that was Devil Kings.
We'll break it down real quick like:

-A new focus on Sekigahara (basically the tail end of Japan's Civil War in the 1600's, the Sengoku)
-6 brand new characters, plus 2 new unique NPC characters
-A shit ton of removed characters
-A new stronghold/base system that involves explosions
-Dash/Run system (I think)
-Being able to equip 3 skills instead of 2

Wait, removed characters? Wtf?

Yeah, so Capcom decided that having more characters to play as was dumb and decided to remove characters from Sengoku Basara 2/Heroes who all HAD UNIQUE MOVE SETS. THERE WERE NO MORE CLONES.

Most likely Capcom decided to take out quite a few of the characters because of the new focus on Sekigahara and removed all the dead/injured ones. But then they also decided to remove a bunch of others for no reason too. Who knows, really.

So how do I play this game?


It runs exactly the same as Dynasty Warriors. You have win/defeat conditions and you get to tear up the battle field with your character of choice. The difference being that stages in SB tend to be a bit more linear than DW.

As far as I know, the leveling system and item system from SB2 is back, so before each battle, you can equip a weapon, 5 items, and 3 skills now.
You earn new skills from leveling up your character and find items and weapons as you lay waste to the battle grounds.
In SB2, each character had a total of 6 weapons that they could find, each having a different look and varying stats. The weapons weren't mere power-ups either, as each weapon has its own varying effects, such as higher defense, better charge rate, ect. There were also joke weapons and a super powerful ultimate weapon.

You also earn money as you smash bad guys into dust to buy items and other things at the shop and the amount of money you can bash out of an enemy is related to your combo.

Wait, combos, like a fighting game?


Yeah, SB has a ridiculous combo system where you try and rack up as many hits as you can. About every 100 hits, you get a new rating (like DMC's combo system rank) and more money flies out of your foes.

Each character has a normal attack chain, which doesn't really warrant a lot of hits, but you use it buffer into your more damaging/combo racking skills. Skills vary drastically from character to character, and you'll need to play around with them in order to find the best combination to take into battle.

When you hit about 1000 hits or so, you go into a Fever mode, which allows you to hit harder for awhile and also your combo won't drop if you stop attacking for a small amount of time. This allows you to run up to another group of enemies and beat the tar out of them and continue your sky shattering combo.

Also, you have two bars that slowly charge as you fight and do damage. The Basara bar allows your character to do their super move which is usually a group bashing, multi-hit damage fest.

The other bar is your Basara Drive. When full, you can activate Basara mode and your damage sky rockets. You also get super armor while in this mode, so baddies won't be able to knock you out of your attacks, although you still take damage. It's a really good idea to save this for when you're getting the tar kicked out of you and you can use it as a combo interrupt. You also get a stronger version of your Basara attack while in this mode.

So bases? And explosions?


In certain areas, you'll have to defeat a base/stronghold captain before being able to proceed. These guys are easy to see as they sit inside this tower like structure. Once you beat on them enough, they explode. However this doesn't damage you, but rather every enemy around you. If enough enemies are around you can easily rack up 400 hits.

Current List of Playable Characters

Spoiler:

Current list of Non-Playable Characters
Spoiler:

This sounds fun, when is it out?

July 29th in Japan.
Oct. 12th in America.
Oct. 16th in Europe.

However, the PS3 is region free, so feel free to pick it up early if you like.

What video game consoles may I play this on?


It's coming out for the Wii and PS3 (weird I know). There is no On-line co-op. Disappointing, I know, but there is Off-line co-op at least.

Gameplay Videos:


English Opening Movie

Opening With T.M. Revolution as per the usual

Skills

I'd... er, hit that...

You Just Wait.

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  • manwiththemachinegunmanwiththemachinegun METAL GEAR?! Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Aw hell yeah. Finally, a U.S. release that isn't totally bastardized.

    The anime is cool too, lots of BURNING SPIRIT and LARGE HAMS all around.

  • WAHWAH Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Man... I want to be interested in this but all the characters I liked to play as have been taken out. I'm still hoping that I can somehow unlock Matsu, Kasuga or Kenshin to play as even though they're all listed as NPCs. Tokugawa Ieyasu does seem pretty awesome though.

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  • manwiththemachinegunmanwiththemachinegun METAL GEAR?! Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Dude, as long as it's got Date, the game is made of win.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTkLA-5j0AA&feature=related

  • WAHWAH Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    There was something fun about summoning a bear to destroy all your enemies even though it was super cheap. Gonna miss that so much.

    Kuroda actually looks interesting too. Time to suplex!

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  • AkatsukiAkatsuki Registered User
    edited June 2010
    I was always interested in this series and Dynasty whatevers, but all the entries confuse me. I'll check this out, dunno which version though.
    No Musashi though ;_;

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  • EliminationElimination Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    What system is this for? Am i blind i dont see it on the OP.

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  • AkatsukiAkatsuki Registered User
    edited June 2010
    What system is this for? Am i blind i dont see it on the OP.

    Wii and PS3.

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  • EliminationElimination Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Akatsuki wrote: »
    What system is this for? Am i blind i dont see it on the OP.

    Wii and PS3.

    Boo, i have neither.

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  • blaze_zeroblaze_zero Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    As far as I know, there are no plans on including any of former playable characters, but they are supposed to be adding in more playable characters.
    They said that these characters will play a part in the second anime series (which starts pretty soon!)


    Also, Musashi was pretty terrible in SB2. I would want a re-tooled move set for him.

  • manwiththemachinegunmanwiththemachinegun METAL GEAR?! Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Akatsuki wrote: »
    I was always interested in this series and Dynasty whatevers, but all the entries confuse me. I'll check this out, dunno which version though.
    No Musashi though ;_;

    You do not understand, you have six swords and can shoot lightening.

    WHAT IS THERE TO UNDERSTAND? :P

  • blaze_zeroblaze_zero Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    I need to stop watching videos for this, as it just makes me excited and there's no set release date :(

    All of the new characters look really fun so far, though. Top of my to play list: Magoichi and Kanbei.

  • Darth_MogsDarth_Mogs Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Hmm. A larger focus on Sekigahara, eh? Any chance of an appearance by Otani Yoshitsugu, then, outside of faceless NPC? He wasn't really important whatsoever, but come on, he was a leper and he was still at Sekigahara. That's just asking to be made into some ridiculous thing in a game like this. :P

    Also, after seeing some videos for this, and seeing Magoichi, I uh...well, I'm confused. Is that supposed to be Saiga's wife? Is he not in it? (Bear in mind, I have nearly no exposure to the Basara series so I don't know their take on the whole Saika Ikki angle.)

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  • psycojesterpsycojester Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Aw hell yeah. Finally, a U.S. release that isn't totally bastardized.

    The anime is cool too, lots of BURNING SPIRIT and LARGE HAMS all around.

    The best thing about the anime is the mountains of homo-erotic subtext to all of the character interactions.

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  • blaze_zeroblaze_zero Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Darth_Mogs wrote: »
    Hmm. A larger focus on Sekigahara, eh? Any chance of an appearance by Otani Yoshitsugu, then, outside of faceless NPC? He wasn't really important whatsoever, but come on, he was a leper and he was still at Sekigahara. That's just asking to be made into some ridiculous thing in a game like this. :P

    Also, after seeing some videos for this, and seeing Magoichi, I uh...well, I'm confused. Is that supposed to be Saiga's wife? Is he not in it? (Bear in mind, I have nearly no exposure to the Basara series so I don't know their take on the whole Saika Ikki angle.)

    Yeah, sorry I haven't gotten around to doing all the characters yet, but Otani is totally in. He's pretty crazy/cool.

    No, Magoichi is Magoichi. Basically, the name Magoichi Saika is only a title, I guess, given to the leader of the Saika Renegades (or what have you), so they went with making it a woman and having a replacement for Nouhime.

  • Darth_MogsDarth_Mogs Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    blaze_zero wrote: »
    Darth_Mogs wrote: »
    Hmm. A larger focus on Sekigahara, eh? Any chance of an appearance by Otani Yoshitsugu, then, outside of faceless NPC? He wasn't really important whatsoever, but come on, he was a leper and he was still at Sekigahara. That's just asking to be made into some ridiculous thing in a game like this. :P

    Also, after seeing some videos for this, and seeing Magoichi, I uh...well, I'm confused. Is that supposed to be Saiga's wife? Is he not in it? (Bear in mind, I have nearly no exposure to the Basara series so I don't know their take on the whole Saika Ikki angle.)

    Yeah, sorry I haven't gotten around to doing all the characters yet, but Otani is totally in. He's pretty crazy/cool.

    :o Yessssssss
    blaze_zero wrote: »
    No, Magoichi is Magoichi. Basically, the name Magoichi Saika is only a title, I guess, given to the leader of the Saika Renegades (or what have you), so they went with making it a woman and having a replacement for Nouhime.

    Aha. Makes sense. They weren't really covered extensively by history so it's pretty easy to play around like that. Not that I mind; she looks crazy fun.

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  • blaze_zeroblaze_zero Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    SEVEN THOUSAND HIT COMBO.

    I love shit like that in these games.

    But yeah, check out some vids of Otani on Youtube, he's pretty crazy.

    Also, his character is thusly:

    Basically hates the world because of his disease and wants to cause suffering. Works under crazy hat Ishida Mitsunari just to prolong the war and strife.

  • KaseiusKaseius Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Had this preordered since at least last month. Looking forward to it! I hope it has JP voice overs, because I'm pretty sure Norio Wakamoto was voicing Nobunaga if I remember right from the show. Masamune was pretty awesome too. I'll be back, going to put my guns on.

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  • blaze_zeroblaze_zero Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Sorry Kaseius, but Nobunaga is dead. He'll only show up in flashbacks... if they have any.

  • WotanAnubisWotanAnubis Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Man, I've been playing Samurai Warriors 3 for the last couple of weeks or so and as a result, my mental pictures of Ieyasu and Ishida are nothing like the pictures in the OP, which is kind of confusing.

    Yukimura and Masamune are pretty close to their SW3 looks so they don't bother me that much.

    But man, Ishida was one handsome dude. Now... not so much.

  • blaze_zeroblaze_zero Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    You bastard, I want SW3, but Europe somehow got it months before us. *shakes fist*


    Anyways, OP has been updated with characters. I'll get the rest of the pics tomorrow when I'm at home.


    Edit:

    Looking through the Japanese site. Really wish I could read this. Anyways, notes:

    -Lots of NPCs it looks like
    -Skills now level up. May depend on the skill, but looks like 3 Levels to a skill maybe?
    -Bodyguard system? Not sure about this one, but it looks like you can call in somebody.
    -There are three types of bases, and taking it over gets you a bonus to some stats.
    -New Deadlock system... or Stylish Clash Hyakretsuken system.
    -Even more giant robot enemy things to fight
    -Looks like there are 12 (TWELVE) weapons for each character.
    -Also, you can synth or make your weapons stronger by applying items to them.

  • Darth_MogsDarth_Mogs Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Hrm. They certainly like playing around with who lives and who dies, apparently. Kenshin's still around despite being dead for 22 years, and apparently, Tsuruhime was based on someone from the "Pre-Nobunaga Sengoku era". And Hojo Ujimasa's been dead for 10 years. (This is all based on the date of Sekigahara, October 21st, 1600) Just on a quick perusal of some of the characters, that's already kind of weird, considering the ones that have been left out for also being dead. (Especially Hanzo. I mean, it'd only been 4 years, and it's Hanzo goddamn Hattori)

    I'm still interested, but I'll need more than 15 characters to put this in "Must Get" range. Hopefully they announce more. (Are they going to announce more?)

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  • blaze_zeroblaze_zero Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Yeah, it's really weird. Not sure how they decided (maybe popularity?) I still don't get why they've never made a Hanzo for this game though. Seems like it would be obvious enough.


    They have said they are going to include more characters. How many we will get it uncertain though. Not sure when they are going to announce it though.


    OP updated with pics of the playable cast!

  • T-DangerT-Danger Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Darth_Mogs wrote: »
    Hrm. They certainly like playing around with who lives and who dies, apparently. Kenshin's still around despite being dead for 22 years, and apparently, Tsuruhime was based on someone from the "Pre-Nobunaga Sengoku era". And Hojo Ujimasa's been dead for 10 years. (This is all based on the date of Sekigahara, October 21st, 1600) Just on a quick perusal of some of the characters, that's already kind of weird, considering the ones that have been left out for also being dead. (Especially Hanzo. I mean, it'd only been 4 years, and it's Hanzo goddamn Hattori)

    I'm still interested, but I'll need more than 15 characters to put this in "Must Get" range. Hopefully they announce more. (Are they going to announce more?)

    You're asking for historical accuracy in a game where men weilding three swords in each hand, pirates surfing across land on giant anchors, and feudal-era Power Rangers are the norm?

    This is what I love about the Basara games. Capcom looked at the Dynasty/Samurai Warriors games, realised that all the seriousness of the plot and characters could not disguise how fucking ridiculous the actual gameplay is, and decided to make their version of the events as batshit crazy as the game's premise.

  • Darth_MogsDarth_Mogs Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    T-Danger wrote: »
    Darth_Mogs wrote: »
    Hrm. They certainly like playing around with who lives and who dies, apparently. Kenshin's still around despite being dead for 22 years, and apparently, Tsuruhime was based on someone from the "Pre-Nobunaga Sengoku era". And Hojo Ujimasa's been dead for 10 years. (This is all based on the date of Sekigahara, October 21st, 1600) Just on a quick perusal of some of the characters, that's already kind of weird, considering the ones that have been left out for also being dead. (Especially Hanzo. I mean, it'd only been 4 years, and it's Hanzo goddamn Hattori)

    I'm still interested, but I'll need more than 15 characters to put this in "Must Get" range. Hopefully they announce more. (Are they going to announce more?)

    You're asking for historical accuracy in a game where men weilding three swords in each hand, pirates surfing across land on giant anchors, and feudal-era Power Rangers are the norm?

    This is what I love about the Basara games. Capcom looked at the Dynasty/Samurai Warriors games, realised that all the seriousness of the plot and characters could not disguise how fucking ridiculous the actual gameplay is, and decided to make their version of the events as batshit crazy as the game's premise.

    Not really historical accuracy, just a little less schizophrenia in the characters they pick to be in the roster. :p

    Good to know they'll be putting in more characters though.

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  • KaseiusKaseius Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    blaze_zero wrote: »
    Sorry Kaseius, but Nobunaga is dead. He'll only show up in flashbacks... if they have any.

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  • RenzoRenzo Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    I will totally put my guns on.

    For real though this looks like dumb fun. Keepin my eye on dis.

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  • manwiththemachinegunmanwiththemachinegun METAL GEAR?! Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Well, even he's not playable. I would like a 'historical' mission where you beat Nobunaga at the Temple. Sort of a recap for new players.

  • blaze_zeroblaze_zero Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    HAVE A PARTY!

    In order to keep you pumped for SB3, the new Sengoku Basara anime started airing last night.

    First episode is out. Opening is pretty good, but not as good as season one's.

  • Canada_jezusCanada_jezus Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    If this hits the eu i'll be picking this up.

    Shit if it doesn't i'll import

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  • blaze_zeroblaze_zero Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Seems like there's no plans for a EU release as of right now.

    However, the game hasn't even come out in Japan yet, so I wouldn't count it out just yet.

  • Canada_jezusCanada_jezus Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    is this the same as Sengoku basara 3 ? Play asia doesn't seem to think so. I was trying to see if i could order number 2 or something to tide me over the summer.

    edit: ah booo 2 was on the ps2.

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  • blaze_zeroblaze_zero Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Yeah, Sengoku Basara Samurai Heroes is SB3.

    SB2 came out for Wii and PS2 only.

    There's also a SB game on PSP. It was never localized, but the PSP is region free.

  • blaze_zeroblaze_zero Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    So we finally have an official US release date.

    October 12th people!

    No word on a EU release.

  • manwiththemachinegunmanwiththemachinegun METAL GEAR?! Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Any tips for the first game guys?

    Maybe it's just me, but I find myself routinely getting defeated by the upper tier bosses like Nobunaga, Yukimura, etc. I just can't seem to do enough damage to them to defeat them. They dodge like monkeys on crack and hit like freight trains. I also only have two of the six learned techniques available to me as Date, and these are the only two conquest levels I can do. This is on normal difficulty.

  • blaze_zeroblaze_zero Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Are you playing Devil Kings or Sengoku Basara 2?

    Not that it really matters, but I wouldn't do normal mode until you have the first few stat up items and a 2nd or 3rd weapons.

  • manwiththemachinegunmanwiththemachinegun METAL GEAR?! Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Devil Kings, the American version.

    Hmm, and growth is persistant across campaigns right? I might need to power level my guys a bit.

  • KazakaKazaka Registered User
    edited July 2010
    DID SOMEONE SAY CRAZY HISTORICALLY INACCURATE FANTASY SAMURAI-ON-SAMURAI ACTION


    FUCK YEAH SON

    Also I noticed a peculiar thing - a lot of the character designs match their Samurai Warriors counterparts pretty closely, while others are c-c-crazy, baby. That's weird.

    ... They ate, slept and worked. Some of them found uninteresting partners at work who they married and came home to. Sometimes they would half-heartededly thrust into each other and children were made. They lived a middle class existence until their deaths to heart disease and cancer.
  • CrovaxanCrovaxan Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I am fuckin excited about this. No idea if i should be the gun girl, the 6 sword dude or the ninja.

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  • Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    man i never understood these games

    every time i see someone playing, it's this crazy godlike warrior beating the shit out of a bunch of mooks on the battlefield who never even touch him

    are there tougher enemies or bosses or do you get overwhelmed by large numbers? do you control your forces or something? what is going on here? is the challenge being stylistic or getting a better time to beat the level or successfully winning the battle or what?

    i am so curious.

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  • manwiththemachinegunmanwiththemachinegun METAL GEAR?! Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Actually, if you're not careful, you die alot. At least in the first game. If you're *not* constantly on the offensive, you'll get swamped. I died once after I was at half health and just killed an enemy commader (most common *real* threat), and then some random ninja mook goes super sayian on me and carves me down to a sliver of health. I died shortly there after. The boss characters vary in difficulty too.

    So, it's not a cake walk. But it is a lot of fun once you get rolling.

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