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DEAD [Let's Play!] Persona 2: Part 3! Pride and Masks

fRAWRstfRAWRst Registered User regular
edited July 2010 in Games and Technology
Unforunately, real life decided to kick in this summer, and I doubt I'll have the time to finish this. Sorry for starting something i couldn't finish, I didn't realize how time consuming it would be. Kudos to whoever decides to take this up.



Hello and welcome to my Let's Play of Persona 2! I'm a long time fan of the SMT series, but have really only finished the ps2 rpgs (Nocturne, DDS, Persona3/4). Having been inspired by CJ Iwakura's lets plays, Ive decided that if I'm going to play through this epic and insane story, I might as well document it! This will be my first Let's Play, so please excuse any poor formatting and terrible jokes. I welcome any advice and tips, and I am planning to have both games finished before PAX (September). 2 months, 2 games.

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Persona 2 is a unique JRPG, and vastly different from Persona 3/4. Its story is split up into 2 games, Innocent Sin and Eternal Punishment. Innocent Sin is the first, and was never released outside of Japan due to its highly controversial topics like suicide, homosexual relationships, the inclusion of Hitler as a boss...among other things. Eternal Punishment is a direct continuation of the ending of Innocent Sin, and much of what happens in EP relies on back story from IS. I'll be playing the fan translated version of IS for convenience sake, and the regular PSX disc of EP after.


So, before I begin rambling on about the little I've played of both games, lets begin!
Spoiler:

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Wimble: you play just like gary but better execution!
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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Rogue Coral Springs, FLRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Tatsuya Suou. I'm a traditionalist. :P

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  • MattakuevanMattakuevan Registered User
    edited June 2010
    Cool start, just a suggestion though, maybe condense the dialogue into text when the scene itself doesn't change, its a lot better than looking through a bunch of images.

    Also, be prepared to grind a lot for this game =P

  • WotanAnubisWotanAnubis Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Hmm. At first I thought the parts of the Significant And Vague opening narration had something to do with the characters after each bit shown.

    But apparently not.

    Unless Lisa isn't what she appears to be. :P

  • fRAWRstfRAWRst Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Gonna let this run till tommorow, then ill work on a long update. I was thinking of posting one or 2 ss of the conversations, and paraphrasing the rest, but some may enjoy the graphic novel and the translation really is good for this version.

    We shall seee

    Wimble: you play just like gary but better execution!
    fRAWRst: LOL
  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Oh, hey, I had been thinking of doing this. I am glad you are instead because I don't think I have the time, really.

    I'll try not to judge your stat and Persona choices too harshly. :P

    Anyway, just keep his name the default.

    edit: as for the conversations, a few screenshots is better than a screenshot for every single line of dialog, but don't paraphrase the rest. Just type it out.

  • OwenashiOwenashi Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    I dunno if it's just me but your screenshots seem to be a mite too big. If you're fine with them or are unable to adjust the size, it's cool. A good start for the LP otherwise. :)

  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Owenashi wrote: »
    I dunno if it's just me but your screenshots seem to be a mite too big. If you're fine with them or are unable to adjust the size, it's cool. A good start for the LP otherwise. :)
    They're definitely big. The text looks sloppy, to me.

    To be fair, though, I just took some to see if I could offer advice, and mine turned out way too small with all attempts at increasing the size decreasing the quality, so...
    Spoiler:

    Maybe someone who doesn't suck at this kind of thing (ie not me) can offer advice :lol:

  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Rogue Coral Springs, FLRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    You could try copying and pasting using MSP. I did that for my own version of the intro in a forum game.

    It's more time consuming, but prettier.

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    Well, not really. Smaller at least. :P

    As it is, I think the screens in the OP are passable.


    And I've been considering doing Revelations Persona(that is, the original US release) after SMTII, so maybe I can be the precursor unless someone beats me to it.

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  • fRAWRstfRAWRst Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Sorry, I'm using an emulator that only does full screen, so the pictures are going to have to remain the same until I can find another program.

    Part 2 is gonna be split up into 2, one of all the exposition, and one for the rest of the first dungeon. Here we go!
    Spoiler:

    Wimble: you play just like gary but better execution!
    fRAWRst: LOL
  • MattakuevanMattakuevan Registered User
    edited July 2010
    Sweet, format is much better.

  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I gotta say it again, less paraphrasing :( you cut out a lot of the character interaction between Lisa and Eikichi, which is some of the best stuff in the game.

  • MattakuevanMattakuevan Registered User
    edited July 2010
    Yes, make sure you say all of the dialogue, then make your comments afterward.

  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Rogue Coral Springs, FLRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Tadashi and Tamaki are also in the first Persona game, though they were still students then(and at each other's throats).

    Tammy also kind of looks like Rei Reihou from Devil Summoner 1(probably not coincedence).

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    And I like the format, only thing that may help is some character avatars over their text to help pick out who's saying what.

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  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    Tadashi and Tamaki are also in the first Persona game, though they were still students then(and at each other's throats).

    Tammy also kind of looks like Rei Reihou from Devil Summoner 1(probably not coincedence).

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    And I like the format, only thing that may help is some character avatars over their text to help pick out who's saying what.
    That is a coincidence, really.

    Although Tammy was one of the main characters in Shin Megami Tensei: If... which is basically Persona Beta. She is the only character in the series that is both a Persona user ("Guardian Beasts" in If...) and a Devil Summoner.

  • WotanAnubisWotanAnubis Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    o_O

    I'm gonna assume 'Michelle' just sounds really cool in Japanese or something.

  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    o_O

    I'm gonna assume 'Michelle' just sounds really cool in Japanese or something.
    Technically it's supposed to be Michel (the male name), but the translator made it Michelle because "it has hell in it so that's cool"

  • WotanAnubisWotanAnubis Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Blackjack wrote: »
    o_O

    I'm gonna assume 'Michelle' just sounds really cool in Japanese or something.
    Technically it's supposed to be Michel (the male name), but the translator made it Michelle because "it has hell in it so that's cool"
    That... doesn't make any sense.

    Besides, Michel has Hel in it, who's ruler of the Underworld. And a girl, granted, but it's still better than Michelle.

  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Rogue Coral Springs, FLRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    There's a lot of weird stuff in the fan translation(namely NPCs dropping f-bombs left and right), but I hope fRAWRst knows about the worst; the suicide+revive all item glitch.
    Spoiler:

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  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Blackjack wrote: »
    o_O

    I'm gonna assume 'Michelle' just sounds really cool in Japanese or something.
    Technically it's supposed to be Michel (the male name), but the translator made it Michelle because "it has hell in it so that's cool"
    That... doesn't make any sense.

    Besides, Michel has Hel in it, who's ruler of the Underworld. And a girl, granted, but it's still better than Michelle.
    Tom and I discussed the other days about Michelle vs Michel. We decided to revert it again to Michelle, for several reasons. First of all, because Michel looks plain boring for a visual idol’s nickname. And Michelle contains a pun about him being the Grim Reaper gang leader. :D
    (emphasis theirs)

    And apparently everyone that read the blog was happy about it. o_O

  • fRAWRstfRAWRst Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Sorry about the paraphrasing, ill try to type out as much dialogue as i can. LP's are tiring =[

    And im gonna have to post part 2 of the dungeon later on tonight, some friends stopped by yesterday for Canada Day and stayed the night, all day drinking is gonna make this dungeon exciting. :P

    Wimble: you play just like gary but better execution!
    fRAWRst: LOL
  • OwenashiOwenashi Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    fRAWRst wrote: »
    Sorry, I'm using an emulator that only does full screen, so the pictures are going to have to remain the same until I can find another program.

    No prob, fRAW. You can use IrfanView to shrink-ray your screenshots individually or as a group after you got them. It's a free pic-viewing program beloved by LPers the world round. :)

  • fRAWRstfRAWRst Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Tried resizing the screens this time. Let me know what you guys think.

    Seven Sisters High Dungeon

    Edi: Oh god, reached the 35000 word limit. 2 posts incoming D: Think i might've over done it, but oh well.
    Spoiler:

    Wimble: you play just like gary but better execution!
    fRAWRst: LOL
  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I didn't read it all yet, but, Stats:
    Spoiler:

  • fRAWRstfRAWRst Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Part Two of Part Two

    oh god
    Spoiler:

    Wimble: you play just like gary but better execution!
    fRAWRst: LOL
  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Spoilers relating to end of the update
    Spoiler:

    Also, yeah, the portraits were too much. And also too large. Screenshots are okay, and they'll help keep you from hitting the text cap, too. Just don't cap every single line.

  • fRAWRstfRAWRst Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I choose him staying alive, however i can save state it to whatever the thread wants. Im here for you guys!

    Wimble: you play just like gary but better execution!
    fRAWRst: LOL
  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    fRAWRst wrote: »
    I choose him staying alive
    Spoiler:

  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Rogue Coral Springs, FLRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I love the new format, especially the portraits. I don't envy all the work that must take, but the results pay off.


    Also, fun fact: the Demon Artist is basically Kazuma Kaneko's avatar.

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  • WotanAnubisWotanAnubis Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I really like the portrait thing. They could be a bit smaller, perhaps, but they're fine as is.

    And if we can vote on the Principal's fate or whatever, I say... Death. But really only because fRAWRst went with him staying alive.

  • fRAWRstfRAWRst Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Update coming in tomorrow or monday, gonna see if i can find a bunch of set portraits to make things easier.
    Other then that, Hannyas staying alive, and im gonna start following Blackjack's lvl up/stat advice.

    Wimble: you play just like gary but better execution!
    fRAWRst: LOL
  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Further advice: Make EMPEROR Airgetlam as soon as you can (ie level 4 or so -- give it an Aqua card or something so it has more than just Earth spells though) and give him to Eikichi. After it stops being useful, you can mutate it into ROD Hotei. They're both really good Personas in their own right and, more importantly, give +1 TEC a level, which is an amazing thing for Eikichi. Because Eikichi almost never puts points into TEC.

    edit: also, everyone's Luck really only needs to be around 20 at the most--that'll give you sufficiently hight Mutation Rates without eating into your other stats' growth. Once luck is in the 15-20 for everyone, switch them to Vitality Sauces except for Yukki and Eikichi who get Agility Sauces.


    This all has me very tempted to do another runthrough of the game, by the way. :lol:

  • TeyarTeyar Registered User
    edited July 2010
    You know... Persona 2 was the first console game I bought with my own money, EVER. I kept staring at that damned box, trying to figure out what sort of game it was, if it was worth spending money on. Every time I went through the video game section I eyed it.

    And then I finally freaking bought it and it was indeed sublime.

    I'm pretty sure I never played more than ten hours in or so due to massive levels of not understanding WTF was going on.
    But man am I looking forward to following a full Lets Play of it.

    Kick At The Darkness Until It Bleeds Daylight
  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Hey guys, let's talk music! This game has some great music.

    First, character themes (some of the 'related videos are spoilery, try not to look at them :( ):

    Tatsuya
    Spoiler:

    Maya Maya has about 37 other themes, too, each more spoilery than the last.

    Lisa
    Eikichi
    Spoiler:

    Yukino
    Spoiler:

    Joker
    Now, fights!

  • fRAWRstfRAWRst Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Part 3!

    Spoiler:

    Wimble: you play just like gary but better execution!
    fRAWRst: LOL
  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Honestly, you get access to the casino (and therefore Luck and Vitality Sauces) earlier than I remember. Up VIT until 10, not 15. TEC, TEC, TEC! :)

    Rumors:
    Slots for the casino, if you're not going to abuse your emulators powers and save state Bingo. If you are, then whatever because it doesn't matter.

    Always go for the rarest/highest quality items for rumors, so "Hardly ever win, but the items are really rare" for the sweepstakes. It's really easy to up your luck through Personas (Pixie) and Items/Accessories, plus one other way I won't mention until you get to it, so if you submit 99 Magazines and have a pretty high Luck stat you'll still win fairly often, and you'll get things actually worth using, to boot.

    As for my vote for the choice at the end
    Spoiler:

    edit: also, you're still paraphrasing. Stop that. :P You cut out all the stuff between Lisa and Yukino leading up to that choice.

    edit part 2! because I can't just say it all at once! Did you get the contact option for Tatsuya and Yukino in the Staff Room where you find the mask?

  • WotanAnubisWotanAnubis Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Let's...
    Spoiler:

  • fRAWRstfRAWRst Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Blackjack wrote: »

    edit: also, you're still paraphrasing. Stop that. :P You cut out all the stuff between Lisa and Yukino leading up to that choice.

    edit part 2! because I can't just say it all at once! Did you get the contact option for Tatsuya and Yukino in the Staff Room where you find the mask?

    To be fair, "all that stuff" is 4 lines of Lisa and Yukino saying your two options. But next time! And yeah, i got the contact, i was gonna add in it and the Persona 1 mc reference but i'm trying to edit myself. :P

    Wimble: you play just like gary but better execution!
    fRAWRst: LOL
  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I'm changing my vote for the sweepstakes, too! I'm doing the rarely win and win rare items now (I started a new game myself :lol: ) and while I'm still winning a lot like I suggested, all I'm getting are crappy items like Somas and suchlike. Got a nice +3 to All Stats consumable, but other than that it's all Somas all the time. Try the middle of the road (Hard to win, good items) and see what you get. Be my guinea pig. :P

  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Rogue Coral Springs, FLRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Vote: watch what happens.


    Also, Toro's another Persona 1 vet, though hardly a major one; he's just kind of hanging around the cafeteria. (I just started P1 again, so I recognized him on sight)


    Yukino is arguably the best cast member from the first game.

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  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    Vote: watch what happens.


    Also, Toro's another Persona 1 vet, though hardly a major one; he's just kind of hanging around the cafeteria. (I just started P1 again, so I recognized him on sight)


    Yukino is arguably the best cast member from the first game.
    Toro factors in a bit more in the Snow Queen Quest.
    Spoiler:

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