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weight lifting, more accurately, freeweights

ok so basically, i just wanna know what are some exact free weight routines that would be good to get into lifting? yes, I know about the fitness thread, but I don't have the option right now for a gym. Yes, it sucks to have to lower oneself to the lowly nature of free weights, but it's all I got. I'm not looking for phenominal results, I'm just looking to start my lifting routines. And yes, I also know that lifting wrong will develop bad habbits, that using free weights are a good way to develop bad habits...etc.

I know that you wanna work 1 muscle group or 2 groups per day, but, for example: what does "work the arms one day" really mean? Does this mean to only do bicep curls? or does it mean to do curls, plus triceps, etc.? as in, do you work all of the arm muscles in one day? and if so, do you work another group in the same day?

-how many reps per set should be done per day, per set?
-how many sets per day?
-should I add in running? if so, before, or after weights? or on different days?
-what are generally accepted workouts for the abdominals and back?
-how can I determine how much weight is too much weight to be lifting, with say for example, a bicep curl?

I have some basic knowledge, but not nearly enough on anything really an I'm just looking for a good place to start. If I can get answers to all of those questions that would be pretty damn awesome.

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  • BoutrosBoutros Registered User
    Do you have a barbell and plates or just dumbells? Squat rack? Bench?

    Also free weights are the shit, most strong people train largely with free weights.

  • DarkSymphonyDarkSymphony Registered User
    i have a barbell, bench and plates with bars. I've lost some weight over the past 3 months, I'm at roughly 170 at 6'1'' so I'm ready to start adding training to get where I wanna be. I'm more concerned about increasing my muscle strength, but additional weight loss is definitely a bonus.

    basically, with the way I work I do best if I have an exact, down the T workout plan that I can follow exactly every single day. A list of sorts in my weight room tacked up would be great. I'd really like to get this kind of information:

    "do this exercise for this amount of time, do this for your arms, X reps, Y sets every day, then switch to this specific muscle group and do these specific routines"

  • BoutrosBoutros Registered User
    I suggest you do the routine described in the op of this thread: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2509212
    this is the routine I did when I started lifting and I got good results from it. If you don't have a squat rack to do back squats you may have to power clean the barbell and do front squats instead, which isn't ideal but you'll still get stronger.

    You can add in running if you like, I'd recommend doing it on days you don't lift.

  • DarkSymphonyDarkSymphony Registered User
    yes, in fact that was quite what I was looking for, many thanks. I just wanted something to get started on.

    I wonder though, will I be losing any weight due to muscle training? like a couple of pounds after a couple months? I'm not really that concerned with needing to lose weight, i'm just curious

  • BoutrosBoutros Registered User
    Weight loss is mostly dependent on your diet, you certainly could lose weight if you wanted to and ate appropriately. I was a fatass when I started lifting and lost a decent amount of weight while gaining strength on this program.

  • Hocky27Hocky27 Registered User regular
    If you gain weight, don't be discouraged. The muscle that you will build weighs more then fat.

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  • The_Glad_HatterThe_Glad_Hatter Registered User regular
    There's nothing wrong with working out using only freeweights/ without huge gym equipment.
    This guy seems to get by pretty well with only cheap home stuff: http://scoobysworkshop.com/
    the guy is pretty quirky, and his site has got fans and haters, but i think it's pretty good advice, and i like how he really pushes the health/ safety aspect of the exercises.

    A more visually pleasing way to learn some new exercises is bodyrock.tv. Apparently it's an ex porn model's workout feed. It's all filmed in annoying shaky cam mode and seems to focus mainly on the girl's boobs, but theyh offer a lot of exercises and i picked up a few new ones there to add some variation to my scooby-like-workout.

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  • RaneadosRaneados Registered User regular
    Hocky27 wrote: »
    If you gain weight, don't be discouraged. The muscle that you will build weighs more then fat.

    keep in mind you're not going to bulk up overnight

    or even over a week or month

    building and losing muscle is a LOT slower than losing/gaining fat

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  • Hocky27Hocky27 Registered User regular
    Raneados wrote: »
    Hocky27 wrote: »
    If you gain weight, don't be discouraged. The muscle that you will build weighs more then fat.

    keep in mind you're not going to bulk up overnight

    or even over a week or month

    building and losing muscle is a LOT slower than losing/gaining fat

    It's also a lot harder then simply lifting heavy weights. Gym bodies are built in the kitchen.

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    Bonnar vs. Silva is like a pig vs an industrial meat processing plant.
  • DarkSymphonyDarkSymphony Registered User
    oh yeah I definitely understand that only lifting weights isn't going to be some magic effect and that eating right is very very important. I just wanted somewhere to start. I'm working on changing my diet, it's just really difficult, so I'm doing it one thing at a time.

  • KendeathwalkerKendeathwalker Registered User regular
    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/


    Brilliant friendly people frequent this forum. Whether you consider yourself a body builder or not- technically any resistance training where you are shaping your body towards a desired result is body building. So just go to one of the best sources.

  • HerkimerHerkimer Registered User
    Hocky27 wrote: »
    If you gain weight, don't be discouraged. The muscle that you will build weighs more then fat.

    what weighs more, a pound of feathers or a pound of lead?

  • lunchbox12682lunchbox12682 MinnesotaRegistered User regular
    Yes, it sucks to have to lower oneself to the lowly nature of free weights, but it's all I got.
    I really have to ask, where does this opinion come from?
    What else are you expecting for lifting?

    Or am I completely missing sarcasm?

  • RaneadosRaneados Registered User regular
    i hope it's sarcasm because freeweights are basically the best for weighlifting

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  • UsagiUsagi Got catz in my zone Ca-catz in my zoneRegistered User regular
    I'd suggest looking into and perhaps purchasing Starting Strength

    also, come post in the Bigman thread over in SE, there's lots of dudes and ladies who are in various stages of lifting, and lots of really good info shared and questions answered

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  • hectorsehectorse Registered User
    Usagi wrote: »
    I'd suggest looking into and perhaps purchasing Starting Strength

    also, come post in the Bigman thread over in SE, there's lots of dudes and ladies who are in various stages of lifting, and lots of really good info shared and questions answered


    +1

  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    Herkimer wrote: »
    Hocky27 wrote: »
    If you gain weight, don't be discouraged. The muscle that you will build weighs more then fat.

    what weighs more, a pound of feathers or a pound of lead?

    are you being serious or do you honestly not know that muscle weighs more than fat.

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  • KrunkMcGrunkKrunkMcGrunk Registered User regular
    There is some good advice in this thread, but it's important to consider your goals when starting a workout program.

    Starting Strength is a good program (I started up around 4 months ago and have seen good strength gains using that program) but from the sounds of it, it might not be right for you. You really need a squat rack/cage to get the most from that program. It sounds like that might be too much for you to spend.

    If you really want to do SS, definitely look for a gym. You should be able to get the initiation fees waived. Might cost you anywhere from $15 to $150 a month depending on what you want in a gym. You'd probably be on the lower end of that spectrum (personally, I'm paying $30/month for LA Fitness).

    Also, are you going for athletic strength gains? Are you a complete newbie? If so, SS is probably the right program. Be warned, SS isn't a program for looking like a Spartan from 300. It's more about increasing strength.

    I can't speak to much else because SS is all I really know. Good luck!

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  • KendeathwalkerKendeathwalker Registered User regular
    Herkimer wrote: »
    Hocky27 wrote: »
    If you gain weight, don't be discouraged. The muscle that you will build weighs more then fat.

    what weighs more, a pound of feathers or a pound of lead?

    are you being serious or do you honestly not know that muscle weighs more than fat.

    hes mocking you for even pointing it out.

  • HerkimerHerkimer Registered User
    Herkimer wrote: »
    Hocky27 wrote: »
    If you gain weight, don't be discouraged. The muscle that you will build weighs more then fat.

    what weighs more, a pound of feathers or a pound of lead?

    are you being serious or do you honestly not know that muscle weighs more than fat.

    hes mocking you for even pointing it out.

    No, I'm mocking him for being totally fucking wrong.

    1 pound of muscle weighs the same as 1 pound of fat. That's how weight works.

    Muscle is, pound for pound, more dense than fat.

    Weight and density are not the same thing.

  • UsagiUsagi Got catz in my zone Ca-catz in my zoneRegistered User regular
    Herkimer wrote: »
    Herkimer wrote: »
    Hocky27 wrote: »
    If you gain weight, don't be discouraged. The muscle that you will build weighs more then fat.

    what weighs more, a pound of feathers or a pound of lead?

    are you being serious or do you honestly not know that muscle weighs more than fat.

    hes mocking you for even pointing it out.

    No, I'm mocking him for being totally fucking wrong.

    1 pound of muscle weighs the same as 1 pound of fat. That's how weight works.

    Muscle is, pound for pound, more dense than fat.

    Weight and density are not the same thing.

    But he's not wrong

    Because muscle is denser than fat, and in general people build muscle faster than they lose fat, it's very common to gain weight at the start of a lifting routine

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  • HerkimerHerkimer Registered User
    That doesn't mean that muscle "weighs more" than fat

    a pound is a pound

  • A duck!A duck! Super Moderator, Moderator, ClubPA mod
    When it comes to weight loss, nobody should really care about how many pounds they actually weigh ( unless you are a wrestler or boxer, I guess). You should really just focus on how much fat you have. When you start working out it's real tempting to hover over that scale and fret every pound, but the true answer only comes from a measuring tape or immersion.

    EDIT - Also, to the OP, do you want to gain muscle to look good, or are you building specifically towards a certain sport?

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  • The Black HunterThe Black Hunter Registered User regular
    Check out the thread in SE++

    It got me into it and I haven't regretted it for even a second

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  • SloSlo Registered User regular
    Herkimer wrote: »
    That doesn't mean that muscle "weighs more" than fat

    a pound is a pound

    Given equal volumes, which one would weigh more?


    Durp.

  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    Slo wrote: »
    Herkimer wrote: »
    That doesn't mean that muscle "weighs more" than fat

    a pound is a pound

    Given equal volumes, which one would weigh more?


    Durp.

    I know what he's saying and yes he's right

    but it's a really silly thing to get angry about

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  • GihgehlsGihgehls Registered User regular
    Herkimer wrote: »
    That doesn't mean that muscle "weighs more" than fat

    a pound is a pound

    Muscle does weigh more than fat, per volume, which is what everyone means, you silly goose.

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  • The Black HunterThe Black Hunter Registered User regular
    Someone mixed up their terms and all of a sudden it's a two page argument?

    that's pathetic

    OP, like I mention before, the Big Man thread in SE++ is a brilliant place to start, simple, effective and you can always ask questions there

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