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[MLB] Greatest Owner of All Time Dead at 80; Greatest Stadium Announcer at 99.

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  • ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    It's not just money but it definitely helps and doing it through the draft the way the Rays have is really fucking hard and uncommon these days. The Rays did lose to a far wealthier Phillies team in the World Series as well.

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  • jkylefultonjkylefulton #1 GB Packer Fan Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    http://baseball.suite101.com/article.cfm/baseballs_revenue_sharing_problem

    Yep, its definitely Steinbrenner's fault that other teams care less about winning and more about profits.

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  • jkylefultonjkylefulton #1 GB Packer Fan Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    If Boston hadn't embraced the Steinbrenner model, the Red Sox would still be looking at a 92-year WS drought.

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  • ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    http://baseball.suite101.com/article.cfm/baseballs_revenue_sharing_problem

    Yep, its definitely Steinbrenner's fault that other teams care less about winning and more about profits.
    One reason that some clubs fail to improve is that they don't use their revenue sharing dollars to attract free agents or to retain homegrown players.

    Wealthier teams being able to offer top free agents more massive, long-term contracts make this much more difficult than the article suggests. Cliff Lee has found himself become a journeyman because Cleveland and Seattle would not be able to afford to offer him as much as any of the top 5 or so payroll teams.

    Yes Cleveland probably could have put more effort into getting better returns on both of their former Cy Young award winners but a combination of New York money and a shitty economic climate has made it impossible for the Indians to take steps other than minimize losses right now.
    If Boston hadn't embraced the Steinbrenner model, the Red Sox would still be looking at a 92-year WS drought.

    Without a salary cap and some FEMA money a small-market team in an economically struggling city like the New Orleans Saints might never have won a Super Bowl despite being ranked #22 in overall net worth.

    I am also not sure how you are refuting my point about the Steinbrenner method being what's wrong with MLB.

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  • GRMikeGRMike The Last Best Hope for Humanity The God Pod Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Nintendo just needs to stop being stingy.

    Also, they need to make an Ichiro themed game.

  • SchideSchide You have dreams Everybody watching at home has dreamsRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Don't worry, all they need to do is put another MLB team in New York and that will instantly fix everything that's wrong with baseball. A salary cap won't help, salary floor won't help, nope, nothing else.

    Or so I've heard.

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  • ShimShamShimSham Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Steinbrenner's over spending wasn't what bothered me about him, I thought he was a jerk and a baby. I think his sons have continued that legacy.

    With that said, I understand the loss this is for the Yankees and baseball in general. I'm not glad he's dead by any means.

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  • simosimo Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    somehow the Rays got to the World Series despite being in the same division as the Yankees and Red Sox

    and somehow the Mets can't do jack shit despite having one of the highest payrolls in the league

    it's not just money

    joe mddon kinda helped

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  • Skull2185Skull2185 Smile Puddin'! Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    ShimSham wrote: »
    Steinbrenner's over spending wasn't what bothered me about him, I thought he was a jerk and a baby. I think his sons have continued that legacy.

    With that said, I understand the loss this is for the Yankees and baseball in general. I'm not glad he's dead by any means.

    Steinbrenner was "The Boss" when it came to baseball, but he was super nice outside of it. Very involved in his communities and scholarships n' such both in New York and Tampa. He was actually a super nice guy.

    It's like the N-word and the C-word had a baby, and it was raised by all the bad words for Jews.
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  • NotASenatorNotASenator Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Can we change the thread title to: [MLB] Yankees Farm System Pays Off: Steinbrenner Dead

  • ApollohApolloh Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Can we change the thread title to: [MLB] Yankees Farm System Pays Off: Steinbrenner Dead

    Haha holy shit.

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  • ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    For $1.4M more George would have owned the Cleveland Indians instead.

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  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Butters wrote: »
    For $1.4M more George would have owned the Cleveland Indians instead.

    dodged a bullet there then

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  • Zen VulgarityZen Vulgarity Ask me about Super Propane and Super Propane accessoriesRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Apolloh wrote: »
    Can we change the thread title to: [MLB] Yankees Farm System Pays Off: Steinbrenner Dead

    Haha holy shit.

    nope.avi

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  • SchideSchide You have dreams Everybody watching at home has dreamsRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Well somebody can certainly make a new thread with that title.

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  • ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    Butters wrote: »
    For $1.4M more George would have owned the Cleveland Indians instead.

    dodged a bullet there then

    Yes and no. His family made their fortune in Ohio. Had he established himself in Cleveland a lot of things may have been different.

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  • Zen VulgarityZen Vulgarity Ask me about Super Propane and Super Propane accessoriesRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Not unless I ask for it first!

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  • HjorvarthrHjorvarthr Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I don't know how the Twins can go from taking 3 out of 4 from the White Sox to getting blown out by the Indians


    how do Cubs fans deal with such crippling disappointment?

  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal Flo-ridaRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    You know the Indians can play some good baseball. I've been to two CLE@TB games this year and both times they went into extra innings.

    They seem like hard luck losers.

  • edited July 2010
    well after taking three of four from the phillies, the cubs got blown out by houston

    mostly I just kind of laugh because it's kind of a relief to be able to give up on the season in july instead of having them implode in october

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  • thanimationsthanimations Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    The Indians probably don't spend enough, and never hang on to their good players. I don't follow their finances enough to comment on it much further, but that certainly doesn't help them. Wasn't too long ago, though, that they were a ballin team.

  • MarthMarth Contemplative Kermit Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I watch my first inning of the Astros all season and they have an amazing first. What have I been missing?
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  • thanimationsthanimations Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    What the hell happened to the Astros, anyways? The Mariners and Cubs might be the only teams more incompetent at spending money on players right now.

  • MarthMarth Contemplative Kermit Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    McLane doesn't want to rebuild, thinks he can just keep adding stuff and hopefully they'll get better? That's why there's a chance Roy Oswalt might not get traded again.

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  • thanimationsthanimations Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    That's just awful.

  • edited July 2010
    What the hell happened to the Astros, anyways? The Mariners and Cubs might be the only teams more incompetent at spending money on players right now.

    They're old, and they've got possibly the worst farm system in the majors. They're going to be terrible for a long fucking time.

    And somehow, the Pirates are still 5.5 games worse.

    And somehow, the Cubs are like, 2-20 against the both of them.

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  • thanimationsthanimations Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    The Pirates have their own special brew of awfulness.

    I've been really impressed with how quick the Padres have turned themselves around. Great pitching and just good enough offense, and they're in a good position to win the NL West.

  • edited July 2010
    not that the padres don't have great young pitchers or anything

    but pitching in that stadium has to be a pretty big confidence booster

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  • Dr.FunkensteinDr.Funkenstein Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    guess the cubs pushed lou over the edge

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