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[DIABLO II] Not even death can save you from me!

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  • local flavor policelocal flavor police Registered User
    no greater bang for your buck than a wizard spike in my opinion

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  • stfuadstfuad Registered User regular
    no greater bang for your buck than a wizard spike in my opinion

    Seriously. I don't know why I've been dicking around with HoTO's.

  • JarsJars Registered User regular
    well why would you wear wizardspike+soj over hoto+10 cast ring? you're giving up +3 skills for.. +1 skills and some mana. weak.

  • lordswinglordswing Registered User
    stfuad wrote: »
    no greater bang for your buck than a wizard spike in my opinion

    Seriously. I don't know why I've been dicking around with HoTO's.

    Cause you can afford the vex? :p

    D2:LoD East -> *FlipPaulHewitt
  • ronyaronya hmmm over there!Registered User regular
    no greater bang for your buck than a wizard spike in my opinion

    If you don't need the 65 more resists, suicide branch kinda edges it out. 50fcr, +1skills, +10 resist. No silly dex requirement, too.

    remember you can socket both suicide branches and wizardspikes with 15 res jewels or whatever too.

  • local flavor policelocal flavor police Registered User
    found a 5os +3 skills GMB, got all excited then i realized its absolutely useless.
    whoever designed some of these runewords is a jackass, there are like 6 runewords for 4os bows, 2 for 3os bows, and none for any other amount.

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  • lordswinglordswing Registered User
    Call to Arms isn't THAT bad, has the IAS and ED, plus some LL. It's just Faith is clearly the best option for bowazons.

    I haven't found any +3 4os bows either, I kinda want to see what a "pure" bowazon is like

    D2:LoD East -> *FlipPaulHewitt
  • themightypuckthemightypuck Registered User regular
    Fucking Christ my AC picked a bad time to screw the pooch. I plan to be playing a bit this afternoon/evening if my computer doesn't explode from the heat.

  • JarsJars Registered User regular
    I have a faith zon and for the number of high runes you have to use it's pretty god damn pathetic.

  • themightypuckthemightypuck Registered User regular
    Jars wrote: »
    I have a faith zon and for the number of high runes you have to use it's pretty god damn pathetic.

    Diablo 2 is terribly unbalanced. IIRC a zon needs a 30frw 45ias 120ed hat which is ridiculous and a 3/2 mat or gmb faith which isn't cheap. On the other hand, a pally can be effective for practically nothing.

    Edit: I wonder if a WF zon with a faith merc would be any good?

  • stfuadstfuad Registered User regular
    Jars wrote: »
    well why would you wear wizardspike+soj over hoto+10 cast ring? you're giving up +3 skills for.. +1 skills and some mana. weak.

    +3 skills end game for a hdin is only 1k damage.

  • LotharsLothars Registered User
    Jars wrote: »
    I have a faith zon and for the number of high runes you have to use it's pretty god damn pathetic.

    Diablo 2 is terribly unbalanced. IIRC a zon needs a 30frw 45ias 120ed hat which is ridiculous and a 3/2 mat or gmb faith which isn't cheap. On the other hand, a pally can be effective for practically nothing.

    Edit: I wonder if a WF zon with a faith merc would be any good?



    Yeah a WF zon with a faith merc is fantastic, I used one for a long time.

  • ronyaronya hmmm over there!Registered User regular
    Jars wrote: »
    I have a faith zon and for the number of high runes you have to use it's pretty god damn pathetic.

    Diablo 2 is terribly unbalanced. IIRC a zon needs a 30frw 45ias 120ed hat which is ridiculous and a 3/2 mat or gmb faith which isn't cheap. On the other hand, a pally can be effective for practically nothing.

    Edit: I wonder if a WF zon with a faith merc would be any good?

    WF max dex glasscannon strafezon with faith merc is the standard high-physical-DPS build. Yes, it's pretty good; it out-DPSes using Faith on the zon slightly, even, due to WF's high max damage. Try not to get hit, though...!

  • stfuadstfuad Registered User regular
    ronya wrote: »
    no greater bang for your buck than a wizard spike in my opinion

    If you don't need the 65 more resists, suicide branch kinda edges it out. 50fcr, +1skills, +10 resist. No silly dex requirement, too.

    remember you can socket both suicide branches and wizardspikes with 15 res jewels or whatever too.

    the dex requirement is a non issue if your going max block anyways.

  • lordswinglordswing Registered User
    Windforce+A1 Faith merc guide

    I wonder if a Might/Pride(Concentration) Merc + Faith bow would be better, that guide was written 2 years ago (Iron Maiden). You need at least a lv. 13 fanat roll on the merc bow, and to avoid expensive PvP hats, it goes with Andy's Visage, but I for one don't have a 15ias/30 fire res jewel for it.

    You could get away with an eth Treachery on the merc, not sure what kind of IAS you need from the hat/jewel though.

    D2:LoD East -> *FlipPaulHewitt
  • ronyaronya hmmm over there!Registered User regular
    Ah... that's true. Might/Pride really would beat Faith for %ed aura. Faith's OIAS is useless too since the discovery of the no-two-frame-strafe bug.

    The merc isn't really intended to contribute to the DPS, is he?

    Faith might still edge out Might/Pride for Multishot, though:
    L90 zon with typical MS/Strafe setup, no 45/120s or 60/160s and ignoring +3 charms

    Faith GMB with M/P: 4247 posted MS damage at 8 FPS = 13271 DPS
    Windforce with M/P: 5672 posted MS damage at 9 FPS = 15755 DPS
    Windforce with A1F: 4359 posted MS damage at 7 FPS = 15567 DPS

    So yes, Faith+Pride<WF+Faith<WF+Pride in terms of pure DPS numbers

    those numbers are pretty dang close

  • lordswinglordswing Registered User
    I would test Might+Pride merc, but I need to find a +3 4os bow first, :P

    I recall being happy with a Ice Merc+Light Sorc for Chaos runs. I really do need to make a bowazon, the last cookie cutter build I haven't played yet I think.

    e: On that note, just wanted to check. It looks right to me, but I have never picked up a bow yet

    [Type] == amazonbow && [Class] == elite && [Quality] >= normal # [Sockets] == 4 && [BowAndCrossbowSkillTab] >= 3 //&& [EnhancedDamage] >= 15 // Faith

    I had the 15ed part for a while, but commented it out when I wasn't getting any. I suppose I should keep 0 sockets as well.

    D2:LoD East -> *FlipPaulHewitt
  • ronyaronya hmmm over there!Registered User regular
    Why would you need a +3 4os bow? Use WF/might+pride :P

    Faith GMB/might+pride would definitely be worse than WF/might+pride DPS-wise, especially for strafe

  • lordswinglordswing Registered User
    I figured you'd need the Faith/Fanat to hit the IAS breakpoints, but like I said, i've never played a "pure" bowazons

    D2:LoD East -> *FlipPaulHewitt
  • local flavor policelocal flavor police Registered User
    im really sorry... that that bow wasnt 4os and i cant extort all kind of cool shit from you for it.

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  • stfuadstfuad Registered User regular
    lordswing wrote: »
    [Type] == amazonbow && [Class] == elite && [Quality] >= normal # [Sockets] == 4 && [BowAndCrossbowSkillTab] >= 3 //&& [EnhancedDamage] >= 15 // Faith

    [Type] == amazonbow && [Class] == elite # ([Sockets] == 0 || [Sockets] == 4) && [BowAndCrossbowSkillTab] >= 3 && [EnhancedDamage] >= 15

    if you want non superiors

    [Type] == amazonbow && [Class] == elite && [Quality] == normal # ([Sockets] == 0 || [Sockets] == 4) && [BowAndCrossbowSkillTab] >= 3

  • ronyaronya hmmm over there!Registered User regular
    lordswing wrote: »
    I figured you'd need the Faith/Fanat to hit the IAS breakpoints, but like I said, i've never played a "pure" bowazons

    Not for strafe. Your strafe breakpoints with a hydra bow (i.e., WF) are:

    0% IAS 15/4
    3% IAS 14/4
    11% IAS 13/3
    26% IAS 12/3
    42% IAS 11/3
    46% IAS 10/3
    80% IAS 9/3

    source

    where x/y means x frames for the first attack and y frames for every additional attack in each strafe cycle (ten attacks). i.e., to hit a 3-frame strafe you only need 11% IAS! And Windforce already comes with 20%, so it hits the breakpoint automatically. Faster breakpoints just shaves off a few frames off each cycle, which isn't much (100 frames with 13/3 to 96 frames with 9/3).

    For other attacks like multishot, yeah you might need Faith to hit IAS breakpoints, but the loss of DPS from WF's silly max damage is quite large.

  • lordswinglordswing Registered User
    olol bot just found Tyrael's Might before a +3 4os bow or zod

    now to stash it away, never to be used

    D2:LoD East -> *FlipPaulHewitt
  • stfuadstfuad Registered User regular
    tyreals might.... hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

  • dinoarusdinoarus Registered User regular
    i've been finding plenty of those 4os 3skill gmbs actually
    enough that im only keeping superior ones now
    so i have one for you

    XBL: OGSTudbone
  • ChenChen Registered User regular
    lordswing wrote: »
    olol bot just found Tyrael's Might before a +3 4os bow or zod

    now to stash it away, never to be used
    I'll give it a good home for it.

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  • lordswinglordswing Registered User
    dinoarus wrote: »
    i've been finding plenty of those 4os 3skill gmbs actually
    enough that im only keeping superior ones now
    so i have one for you

    "Plenty" ??, switch bots with me or something, not fair. Lmk when I can grab one from you
    Chen wrote: »
    lordswing wrote: »
    olol bot just found Tyrael's Might before a +3 4os bow or zod

    now to stash it away, never to be used
    I'll give it a good home for it.

    Curious what you would use it for, the best mod on it is the no requirements. For every build I can think of, there's a better alternative for it.

    Defense: 1322-1502 (varies)(Base Defense: 487-600)
    Required Level: 84
    Required Strength: None
    +124% Enhanced Defense (ok I guess, but Fort beats the pants off it)
    +77% Damage To Demons (meh)
    +20% Faster Run/Walk (Enigma has more FRW and str)
    +27 To Strength (above)
    All Resistances +22 (CoH, heck I'd take Vipermagi over it, nice bonus I guess)
    Cannot Be Frozen (saves ravenfrost)
    Requirements -100% (cool)
    Slain Monsters Rest in Peace (saves nature's peace)
    Indestructible
    (Ladder Only)
    (Only Spawns In Patch 1.10 or later)

    I suppose you save 2 ring slots for 2 SoJs if you run Nihl often, which balances the lack of +skills. I might use it for my cowrunner, +FRW, CBF (1 more SoJ or ML ring), no MF.

    And of course, my bot teases me by picking up a magical +3 GMB

    e: I left out another bonus, it looks cool as shit, though I had it on my tal sorc, so looking better than Barney is pretty easy to do. I'm not usually one that cares for how my characters look, but the blue armor is pretty cool.

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  • dinoarusdinoarus Registered User regular
    got a mule sitting in pamule right now, ill wait in there for a few hours, and check him once in a while
    could also use your help setting a price for an eth alma negra i found

    XBL: OGSTudbone
  • ChenChen Registered User regular
    I dunno... 0 str berserker? I just think it looks hella cash. I'd use it over CoH for the 0 mf alone. Keep getting magic sacred targes and berserker axes. Free socket is a bonus. Plus, fucking with necros is always nice.

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  • ronyaronya hmmm over there!Registered User regular
    lordswing wrote: »
    Curious what you would use it for, the best mod on it is the no requirements. For every build I can think of, there's a better alternative for it.

    Defense: 1322-1502 (varies)(Base Defense: 487-600)
    Required Level: 84
    Required Strength: None
    +124% Enhanced Defense (ok I guess, but Fort beats the pants off it)
    +77% Damage To Demons (meh)
    +20% Faster Run/Walk (Enigma has more FRW and str)
    +27 To Strength (above)
    All Resistances +22 (CoH, heck I'd take Vipermagi over it, nice bonus I guess)
    Cannot Be Frozen (saves ravenfrost)
    Requirements -100% (cool)
    Slain Monsters Rest in Peace (saves nature's peace)
    Indestructible
    (Ladder Only)
    (Only Spawns In Patch 1.10 or later).

    It is the only item you can give to an Act I or II mercenary that will give them RIP. Nihl, etc. CBF atop it is just gravy.

    But yeah that's the only unique use I know for it.

  • MahnmutMahnmut Registered User regular
    Because all the guides I've been reading are old, I've been tip-toeing around in abject fear of Iron Maiden. Yeah...

    Steam/LoL: Jericho89
  • JarsJars Registered User regular
    I use faith on the zon because of itd. I had <70% to hit with windforce. But my dex is pretty low and I have freezing arrow not penetrate. way easier to 1 shot PIs rather than sit there waiting for an amp proc then still doing crap damage.

  • ronyaronya hmmm over there!Registered User regular
    Just stuff the Jah in the Windforce instead :P

    Although with FA instead of Strafe Faith's aura might be more effective, yeah.

  • lordswinglordswing Registered User
    Thanks to OG, picked up a couple of Faith bases.

    I suppose I need to start crafting some knockback gloves now, or use a Giant Skull instead of Andy's

    I'm going to be busy for the next couple of days, hoping to host another tournament next week (Wednesday?)

    D2:LoD East -> *FlipPaulHewitt
  • stfuadstfuad Registered User regular
    I have a Giant Skull sitting around somewhere.

    Also no more HoTOs!

  • dinoarusdinoarus Registered User regular
    so flip, i just got an offer of 1500 on that crown i found.
    pretty good, dontcha think?

    XBL: OGSTudbone
  • lordswinglordswing Registered User
    dinoarus wrote: »
    so flip, i just got an offer of 1500 on that crown i found.
    pretty good, dontcha think?

    Wow, PvP is so [strike]retar[/strike] profitable. What did I put the price on it at? Something stupid like 20 fg?

    e: I think I said it was good, but not sellable. I r smarts

    D2:LoD East -> *FlipPaulHewitt
  • dinoarusdinoarus Registered User regular
    lordswing wrote: »
    dinoarus wrote: »
    so flip, i just got an offer of 1500 on that crown i found.
    pretty good, dontcha think?

    Wow, PvP is so [strike]retar[/strike] profitable. What did I put the price on it at? Something stupid like 20 fg?

    e: I think I said it was good, but not sellable. I r smarts

    nah i think you said it was sellable, but not gg.
    which was slightly more accurate.
    but yeah between this and the negra i have suddenly gotten a lot richer

    XBL: OGSTudbone
  • ronyaronya hmmm over there!Registered User regular
    dinoarus wrote: »
    so flip, i just got an offer of 1500 on that crown i found.
    pretty good, dontcha think?

    o_O

    what crown!

  • MahnmutMahnmut Registered User regular
    So this jsp is a good place to trade? I've been hanging around on the incgamers forums, but this currency system sounds way handy.

    Steam/LoL: Jericho89
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