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  • thisisntwallythisisntwally Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Pony wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    Mazzyx wrote: »
    Pony what is your new job again?

    i do focus groups and research seminars for a marketing firm

    copy or concept?

    eh?

    it sounds like neither.

    #someshit
  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    basically as part of the recruitment process for these studies i have to screen people over the phone via questionnaires

    these determine demographic information and if the person fits into the groups that the client wants in the study

    so, depending on what the client asks for, we can be asking questions like a person's ethnicity or income bracket or inane bullshit like when was the last time they purchased processed cheese products

    some of those questions, naturally, are more sensitive topics than others and have to approached carefully (ethnicity, age, and income, for example)

    but some people, despite choosing to sign up for this stuff, still get outraged at being asked anything at all

  • thisisntwallythisisntwally Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Pony wrote: »
    basically as part of the recruitment process for these studies i have to screen people over the phone via questionnaires

    these determine demographic information and if the person fits into the groups that the client wants in the study

    so, depending on what the client asks for, we can be asking questions like a person's ethnicity or income bracket or inane bullshit like when was the last time they purchased processed cheese products

    some of those questions, naturally, are more sensitive topics than others and have to approached carefully (ethnicity, age, and income, for example)

    but some people, despite choosing to sign up for this stuff, still get outraged at being asked anything at all

    yep. you should read what some assholes have to say coming out of those studies that they volunteer and get paid for...

    #someshit
  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Pony wrote: »
    basically as part of the recruitment process for these studies i have to screen people over the phone via questionnaires

    these determine demographic information and if the person fits into the groups that the client wants in the study

    so, depending on what the client asks for, we can be asking questions like a person's ethnicity or income bracket or inane bullshit like when was the last time they purchased processed cheese products

    some of those questions, naturally, are more sensitive topics than others and have to approached carefully (ethnicity, age, and income, for example)

    but some people, despite choosing to sign up for this stuff, still get outraged at being asked anything at all

    why do you do that over the phone?

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  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    basically as part of the recruitment process for these studies i have to screen people over the phone via questionnaires

    these determine demographic information and if the person fits into the groups that the client wants in the study

    so, depending on what the client asks for, we can be asking questions like a person's ethnicity or income bracket or inane bullshit like when was the last time they purchased processed cheese products

    some of those questions, naturally, are more sensitive topics than others and have to approached carefully (ethnicity, age, and income, for example)

    but some people, despite choosing to sign up for this stuff, still get outraged at being asked anything at all

    why do you do that over the phone?

    because the reality is in a given day i will be screening literally over a hundred people to fill a group that maybe needs a dozen.

    and i am not going to ask people to come all the way down to our offices just to be like "oh sorry you don't qualify, go home"

  • MazzyxMazzyx Changing the World Order. Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    So, it seems corn pops no longer have corn syrup. Has sugar and molasses but no corn syrup anymore. This is part of a nice trend toward less corn syrup in stuff around here.

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  • ChanusChanus Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Mazzyx wrote: »
    So, it seems corn pops no longer have corn syrup. Has sugar and molasses but no corn syrup anymore. This is part of a nice trend toward less corn syrup in stuff around here.

    Seems an odd choice for foods from which to remove corn.

  • AriviaArivia Registered User
    edited July 2010
    ffff, never know how dependent you are on a thing until it doesn't work.

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  • FeralFeral Who needs a medical license when you've got style? Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Pony: MikeMan and I have both, at different companies respectively, worked at companies doing marketing interviews for pharma... basically asking physicians what they thought of this drug or that drug.

    Man, physicians can be some of the most arrogant condescending self-absorbed pricks. I know that should come as no surprise to anybody, but man

    I was editing a sound file once, a recording of an interview, and the physician responded to a question with, "That question reveals that you are so ignorant of this topic that I don't think you're qualified to run this interview. I don't think I should waste my time glorifying it with a response."

    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
    the "no true scotch, man" fallacy.
  • evilbobevilbob Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    evilbob wrote: »
    How pretty am I?
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    Geth wrote: »
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  • KalkinoKalkino Buttons Londres Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    What is corn pop? Is that pop corn or some sort of carbonated drink?

    Freedom for the Northern Isles!
  • ChanusChanus Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Feral wrote: »
    Pony: MikeMan and I have both, at different companies respectively, worked at companies doing marketing interviews for pharma... basically asking physicians what they thought of this drug or that drug.

    Man, physicians can be some of the most arrogant condescending self-absorbed pricks. I know that should come as no surprise to anybody, but man

    I was editing a sound file once, a recording of an interview, and the physician responded to a question with, "That question reveals that you are so ignorant of this topic that I don't think you're qualified to run this interview. I don't think I should waste my time glorifying it with a response."

    Well, maybe you shouldn't have asked how many doodads it takes to do the thingy.

  • GooeyGooey Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Chanus wrote: »
    Mazzyx wrote: »
    So, it seems corn pops no longer have corn syrup. Has sugar and molasses but no corn syrup anymore. This is part of a nice trend toward less corn syrup in stuff around here.

    Seems an odd choice for foods from which to remove corn.

    are they now just Pops?

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  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Pony wrote: »
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    basically as part of the recruitment process for these studies i have to screen people over the phone via questionnaires

    these determine demographic information and if the person fits into the groups that the client wants in the study

    so, depending on what the client asks for, we can be asking questions like a person's ethnicity or income bracket or inane bullshit like when was the last time they purchased processed cheese products

    some of those questions, naturally, are more sensitive topics than others and have to approached carefully (ethnicity, age, and income, for example)

    but some people, despite choosing to sign up for this stuff, still get outraged at being asked anything at all

    why do you do that over the phone?

    because the reality is in a given day i will be screening literally over a hundred people to fill a group that maybe needs a dozen.

    and i am not going to ask people to come all the way down to our offices just to be like "oh sorry you don't qualify, go home"

    no I mean why can't they fill out that on paper

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  • MazzyxMazzyx Changing the World Order. Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Its a cereal Kalkino. And it is made with milled corn for texture. But the sweetness use to be corn syrup and now it is molasses and sugar which though bad for you actually taste better than corn syrup.

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  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    basically as part of the recruitment process for these studies i have to screen people over the phone via questionnaires

    these determine demographic information and if the person fits into the groups that the client wants in the study

    so, depending on what the client asks for, we can be asking questions like a person's ethnicity or income bracket or inane bullshit like when was the last time they purchased processed cheese products

    some of those questions, naturally, are more sensitive topics than others and have to approached carefully (ethnicity, age, and income, for example)

    but some people, despite choosing to sign up for this stuff, still get outraged at being asked anything at all

    why do you do that over the phone?

    because the reality is in a given day i will be screening literally over a hundred people to fill a group that maybe needs a dozen.

    and i am not going to ask people to come all the way down to our offices just to be like "oh sorry you don't qualify, go home"

    no I mean why can't they fill out that on paper

    because it's impossible to really know what the client who is getting us to do the groups actually want as criteria

    sometimes, for example, a person's ethnic background is relevant information. often, however, it isn't

    if we tried to put everything that could be important on the registration form it'd be miles long

  • matt has a problemmatt has a problem Six pack on a dick Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Mazzyx wrote: »
    Its a cereal Kalkino. And it is made with milled corn for texture. But the sweetness use to be corn syrup and now it is molasses and sugar which though bad for you actually taste better than corn syrup.

    KelloggCornPopsImage.jpg
    And it's sealed in a heavy-duty paper and aluminum bag for some reason.

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    All my fuckin life I lived a normal fuckin life
  • KalkinoKalkino Buttons Londres Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Chanus wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    Pony: MikeMan and I have both, at different companies respectively, worked at companies doing marketing interviews for pharma... basically asking physicians what they thought of this drug or that drug.

    Man, physicians can be some of the most arrogant condescending self-absorbed pricks. I know that should come as no surprise to anybody, but man

    I was editing a sound file once, a recording of an interview, and the physician responded to a question with, "That question reveals that you are so ignorant of this topic that I don't think you're qualified to run this interview. I don't think I should waste my time glorifying it with a response."

    Well, maybe you shouldn't have asked how many doodads it takes to do the thingy.

    I've had to deal with a few doctors of late in a professional capacity, quite often it has been rather dispiriting.

    Freedom for the Northern Isles!
  • RiemannLivesRiemannLives Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    It is so nice not being burdended with the hideous anachronism that is a land line phone. Haven't had one for about five years now and I have during that entire time received maybe two or three robocalls and exactly one telemarketer. Who, upon realizing he had called a cell phone, apologized and promised it would never happen again.

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  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Join the union y/n

    36.74 USD/month

    EDIT: Riemannlives: That seems nice. I sometimes want to unplug the phone because we get telemarketers and solicitors all the time

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  • thisisntwallythisisntwally Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Pony wrote: »
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    basically as part of the recruitment process for these studies i have to screen people over the phone via questionnaires

    these determine demographic information and if the person fits into the groups that the client wants in the study

    so, depending on what the client asks for, we can be asking questions like a person's ethnicity or income bracket or inane bullshit like when was the last time they purchased processed cheese products

    some of those questions, naturally, are more sensitive topics than others and have to approached carefully (ethnicity, age, and income, for example)

    but some people, despite choosing to sign up for this stuff, still get outraged at being asked anything at all

    why do you do that over the phone?

    because the reality is in a given day i will be screening literally over a hundred people to fill a group that maybe needs a dozen.

    and i am not going to ask people to come all the way down to our offices just to be like "oh sorry you don't qualify, go home"

    no I mean why can't they fill out that on paper

    because it's impossible to really know what the client who is getting us to do the groups actually want as criteria

    sometimes, for example, a person's ethnic background is relevant information. often, however, it isn't

    if we tried to put everything that could be important on the registration form it'd be miles long

    or alternatively abdy, consider the labor costs involved with updating, maintaining, distributing and developing constantly shifting forms to the labor cost involved with calling people up and asking them a few questions. (time is also a factor.)

    #someshit
  • MazzyxMazzyx Changing the World Order. Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Unions are generally a good thing if you plan on working somewhere for a long period of time. It is another support structure and means you get put on the contracts negotiated with union.

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  • KalkinoKalkino Buttons Londres Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Mazzyx wrote: »
    Its a cereal Kalkino. And it is made with milled corn for texture. But the sweetness use to be corn syrup and now it is molasses and sugar which though bad for you actually taste better than corn syrup.

    KelloggCornPopsImage.jpg
    And it's sealed in a heavy-duty paper and aluminum bag for some reason.

    See, this is why I stick to a strict, non cereal diet of tea & crumpets

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  • AriviaArivia Registered User
    edited July 2010
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    Join the union y/n

    36.74 USD/month

    EDIT: Riemannlives: That seems nice. I sometimes want to unplug the phone because we get telemarketers and solicitors all the time

    y

    yeah, that's ~4 hours pay gone, but you'll really appreciate it when you need them

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  • RiemannLivesRiemannLives Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    Join the union y/n

    36.74 USD/month

    EDIT: Riemannlives: That seems nice. I sometimes want to unplug the phone because we get telemarketers and solicitors all the time

    Land lines are the new Fax Machine.

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  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I'm actually already halfway through the form I was just curious if anyone was going to say "no"

    EDIT: Arivia: It's 1.8 hours pay gone, actually

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  • FeralFeral Who needs a medical license when you've got style? Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    That guy wasn't just any old physician, he was the head of some major department (oncology, IIRC, but it might have been something else) at a prestigious university hospital.

    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
    the "no true scotch, man" fallacy.
  • Just Like ThatJust Like That Registered User
    edited July 2010
    Corn pops taste like cardboard

  • GooeyGooey Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I would never in a thousand years join a union

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  • thisisntwallythisisntwally Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    I'm actually already halfway through the form I was just curious if anyone was going to say "no"

    id say no if you sense any upcoming labor disputes.

    scab it up, then reap the benefits of their unrest.

    #someshit
  • MazzyxMazzyx Changing the World Order. Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Gooey wrote: »
    I would never in a thousand years join a union

    Why?

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  • GooeyGooey Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    cinnamon toast crunch is the best cereal

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  • thisisntwallythisisntwally Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Gooey wrote: »
    I would never in a thousand years join a union

    not even if you got to firebomb some foreign civilians to sweeten the deal?

    #someshit
  • evilbobevilbob Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Mazzyx wrote: »
    Gooey wrote: »
    I would never in a thousand years join a union

    Why?

    socialism is evil

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  • KalkinoKalkino Buttons Londres Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    I'm actually already halfway through the form I was just curious if anyone was going to say "no"

    EDIT: Arivia: It's 1.8 hours pay gone, actually

    We don't know enough about Norse Employment law to give anything more than simple non specific answers.

    See, if this was NZ I'd probably say no, as by law you are entitled to the same contract terms as union members and if it is a reasonably casual job you are unlikely to encounter serious enough employment problems so as to require assistance from such a body.

    If this was the UK I'd still say no, unless you were planning to fall out with your employer. In which case, just wait till the time comes, then join.

    Glorious Norway is an entirely different matter.

    So, how serious is the job and how worried are you about being mistreated?

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  • Casual EddyCasual Eddy Fighting the War on String Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    ooh av club gave inception an A-

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  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    also, there are things i sorta knew instinctively going into this

    that like, a week later one of my bosses decided to explain to me, even though i had been doing it right all along

    like, for example

    if a screener does have the ethnicity question, and a person can be disqualified because they're the wrong ethnicity/the group already has its quota of them folk, for the love of christ don't tell people that

    don't even tell them they're not valid until five or six inane questions later when you've asked them about how much TV they watch or what brand of hand soap they use.

    because people will accept being told they don't watch enough TV

    but if you say "i'm sorry sir we can't take you for this group because we already have enough black people"

    well now

    that's something you've done there

  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    I'm actually already halfway through the form I was just curious if anyone was going to say "no"

    id say no if you sense any upcoming labor disputes.

    scab it up, then reap the benefits of their unrest.

    what

    "no", if I do sense upcoming labor disputes?

    that's... sort of the time it pays to be in a union and have free access to legal consultation

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