Have two characters in the same costume ever successfully co-existed? And even if they have, recent events with Flash and Atom have shown that the present environment won't support two heroes with the same exact costume.
Well, there are four green lanterns running around now and they're apparently all going to get good screen time.
John and Kyle star in GLC, Guy in Emerald Warriors, and Hal in Green Lantern.
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I don't know, just made sense to me. They'd work on totally different scales from eachother, so, not too likely they'd cross paths officially very often. Think of Bruce as Super-Batman or something. He can run a moonbase the Justice League hang out in, monitor earth, have the Scifi Adventures and team-ups befitting such a legendary hero that matches Superman in his accomplishments.
Dick can be the Batman that the cops know and get along with, drives the Batmobile around and follows the batsignal and stuff. All they'd need to do is work out who gets to fight Ra's whenever he appears, but I'm sure they'd just do a coin flip or something.
So I posted in the movies thread here about how Forbidden Planet is selling Under the Red Hood almost two weeks early, but how I wouldn't buy it because it's so expensive. Well, I talk a lot of talk, I guess, but I ended up getting and watching it. I have to say, while you need to go into this realizing this is the Winick Red Hood story -- and this is the stereotypical grim Batman, for sure -- this is by far the best DCAU DVD movie so far. Really surprised at how tight the scripting is; it was much better and more refined than the actual "Under the Hood" comic. There was a lot of ground covered in this story, surprisingly. It's not a subtle movie by any means (the last line in particular is kind of an eye roller), but all of the DCAU stuff has been pretty "Saturday morning cartoons for teens and grown-ups," so, you know. And it was dark. Like, Spawn dark. Like, numerous scenes of immolation dark. And Jason blowing someone's head off such that you see ample blood splatter on a wall behind him dark.
Anyway, I'd say it's definitely worth seeing if you can handle more Jason Todd in your life and don't mind the most basic, brooding Batman archetype out there. My only major criticism is that the art style was kind of irksome. Why they couldn't have gotten an edgier look along the lines of Gotham Knight to go along with the sinister material is kind of beyond me. You half expect Pocahontas to walk into the room while Jason is mowing down thugs.
Oh, and Neil Patrick Harris killed it as Nightwing.
I mean, I'm not going to lie: I could see people disliking this, but I think that would be based more on what the source material stands for than what this movie actually accomplishes. Like I said, it's Judd Winick, and it's a Jason Todd story. But really, I was surprised at how complex the story was - it shot pretty high and came off as pretty effortless. It's a short movie, but it felt meaty and not too compressed at all, in contrast to something like New Frontier, which I did like but would consider almost kind of bloated in the same running time.
I was blown away by New Frontier the first time I saw it when it originally came out, but I watched it again last month and it felt extremely disjointed.
But I'm definitely looking forward to Red Hood, even though I don't care a ton for Winick and I've never read the original. The trailers already make it look like the most movie-like of these DTVs, and that says a lot when they've constantly been getting tighter and tighter, and closer and closer to perfection.
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I was blown away by New Frontier the first time I saw it when it originally came out, but I watched it again last month and it felt extremely disjointed.
But I'm definitely looking forward to Red Hood, even though I don't care a ton for Winick and I've never read the original. The trailers already make it look like the most movie-like of these DTVs, and that says a lot when they've constantly been getting tighter and tighter, and closer and closer to perfection.
I definitely think it is the most "movie-like" of the DTVs. Honestly, if the animation had been kicked up a notch, I could've taken this a lot more seriously as a movie. I'm not kidding when I say there are moments in the movie where figures actually look like doodles, complete with some slightly wonky proportions. It's even weirder because the Jonah Hex short looks totally awesome. To be fair, though the actual character art is not so far removed from, say, Justice League Unlimited, Under the Red Hood does boast by far the best action sequences I've seen in one of these DCAU movies.
Whats going on here? People never view DTVs here before me. Something is wrong.
Least its worth watching, last few DTVs Ive seen haven't been very impressive.
which would those be?
I went back and rewatched the return of the joker after under the red hood, so i could revel in bad things happening to robin. It makes me remember how special mark hamills run as the voice of joker is, dimaggio has limited dialog but does alot with it, but it seems the directive was to follow heaths footsteps instead of marks...
The Green Lantern and Batman/Superman were the last ones I watched, GL wasn't a terrible film it was just mediocre to a point, utterly forgettable while Batman/Superman was just a terrible, terrible abomination, the legacy of a thousand slave-Korean animators.
Im rectifying this Red Hood nsituation but at the moment Ill say that the Joker voice is good, sometimes mistakable for Hamills, but he doesnt seem able to do the very high pitched voice that lends to his more memorable laughs and insanity peaks.
God its bizarre, hes getting the laugh closer as the film goes on, if I didnt know beforehand Id swear it was Hamill. At least if he sticks to his retirement after Arkham 2 we have a replacement.
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I am guessing the arc that just finished in Batgirl could be considered to have finished before Gordan got tangled up with the Birds again. I think I am going to have to re-read everything, because I think there is a conflict in there somewhere.
Edit: Never mind. It appears the conflict was due to a bad guess on my part.
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RED HOOD: LOST DAYS #5
Written by JUDD WINICK
Art by JEREMY HAUN
Cover by BILLY TUCCI
With a terrorist attack set to send London into mayhem and countless lives held in the balance, Jason Todd is forced out of the shadows and must call upon all he has learned to prevent this disaster. Can this fallen hero embrace what he used to be – and stop this catastrophe?
This actually sounds interesting. I think neat things could be done with Jason Todd as sort of a post-90s neo-pulp Batman/Punisher hybrid. You would have to be able to suspend a lot of disbelief, but it could work with the right team.
So wait a minute. What is Return of Bruce Wayne if there's another story about the same thing?
presumably they're not the same thing and Return of Bruce Wayne is the story of the residual Final Crisis bouncing around through time stuff.
The Road Home is after Bruce has successfully returned back to his rightful time and not blown up the universe and now he's reconnecting with the Batfamily, which won't happen at the end of Return of Bruce Wayne.
doesn't seem that strange to me
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RED HOOD: LOST DAYS #5
Written by JUDD WINICK
Art by JEREMY HAUN
Cover by BILLY TUCCI
With a terrorist attack set to send London into mayhem and countless lives held in the balance, Jason Todd is forced out of the shadows and must call upon all he has learned to prevent this disaster. Can this fallen hero embrace what he used to be – and stop this catastrophe?
This actually sounds interesting. I think neat things could be done with Jason Todd as sort of a post-90s neo-pulp Batman/Punisher hybrid. You would have to be able to suspend a lot of disbelief, but it could work with the right team.
Is this book good?
considering it's written by Judd Winick, the dude who wrote Under The Hood, gonna guess it's great
RED HOOD: LOST DAYS #5
Written by JUDD WINICK
Art by JEREMY HAUN
Cover by BILLY TUCCI
With a terrorist attack set to send London into mayhem and countless lives held in the balance, Jason Todd is forced out of the shadows and must call upon all he has learned to prevent this disaster. Can this fallen hero embrace what he used to be – and stop this catastrophe?
This actually sounds interesting. I think neat things could be done with Jason Todd as sort of a post-90s neo-pulp Batman/Punisher hybrid. You would have to be able to suspend a lot of disbelief, but it could work with the right team.
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John and Kyle star in GLC, Guy in Emerald Warriors, and Hal in Green Lantern.
Dick can be the Batman that the cops know and get along with, drives the Batmobile around and follows the batsignal and stuff. All they'd need to do is work out who gets to fight Ra's whenever he appears, but I'm sure they'd just do a coin flip or something.
bruce is only happy fighting crime in gotham. dick can go be space-batman.
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I hope he keeps Dick no matter what happens; he's pretty much the only entry point into that book anymore.
Anyway, I'd say it's definitely worth seeing if you can handle more Jason Todd in your life and don't mind the most basic, brooding Batman archetype out there. My only major criticism is that the art style was kind of irksome. Why they couldn't have gotten an edgier look along the lines of Gotham Knight to go along with the sinister material is kind of beyond me. You half expect Pocahontas to walk into the room while Jason is mowing down thugs.
Oh, and Neil Patrick Harris killed it as Nightwing.
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But I'm definitely looking forward to Red Hood, even though I don't care a ton for Winick and I've never read the original. The trailers already make it look like the most movie-like of these DTVs, and that says a lot when they've constantly been getting tighter and tighter, and closer and closer to perfection.
I definitely think it is the most "movie-like" of the DTVs. Honestly, if the animation had been kicked up a notch, I could've taken this a lot more seriously as a movie. I'm not kidding when I say there are moments in the movie where figures actually look like doodles, complete with some slightly wonky proportions. It's even weirder because the Jonah Hex short looks totally awesome. To be fair, though the actual character art is not so far removed from, say, Justice League Unlimited, Under the Red Hood does boast by far the best action sequences I've seen in one of these DCAU movies.
I liked it. A little over-the-top, maybe, but that's what you get with Gray and Palmiotti. Thomas Jane did an excellent Hex voice.
I really, really liked Crisis on Two Earths, but yes, actually!
I mean, seriously, the action in this is pretty bad ass. Not gonna lie.
Bender (john dimaggio) as the joker cracks me up as the joker.
leaving off the punchlines but spoilering anways
kid came back from the dead to make a point, lets take pictures, first me and the kid, then me and you, then all 3...
Least its worth watching, last few DTVs Ive seen haven't been very impressive.
which would those be?
I went back and rewatched the return of the joker after under the red hood, so i could revel in bad things happening to robin. It makes me remember how special mark hamills run as the voice of joker is, dimaggio has limited dialog but does alot with it, but it seems the directive was to follow heaths footsteps instead of marks...
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I think that might be more recent film I watched actually but its still aw hile ago.
Edit: Never mind. It appears the conflict was due to a bad guess on my part.
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It has Dean Winchester in it
Really? I love that show.
Yeah, he plays Red Hood.
Cool.
Well now we know what Morrison is going to be writing.
Of those one-shots i'm probably only going to pick up the ones by Fabian Nicieza.
Why is Shane Davis doing all the covers? Am I the only person that doesn't think Shane Davis is that good?
So wait a minute. What is Return of Bruce Wayne if there's another story about the same thing?
This actually sounds interesting. I think neat things could be done with Jason Todd as sort of a post-90s neo-pulp Batman/Punisher hybrid. You would have to be able to suspend a lot of disbelief, but it could work with the right team.
Is this book good?
I think this is the metaphorical return. He comes back a month before any of this.
presumably they're not the same thing and Return of Bruce Wayne is the story of the residual Final Crisis bouncing around through time stuff.
The Road Home is after Bruce has successfully returned back to his rightful time and not blown up the universe and now he's reconnecting with the Batfamily, which won't happen at the end of Return of Bruce Wayne.
doesn't seem that strange to me
considering it's written by Judd Winick, the dude who wrote Under The Hood, gonna guess it's great
How does that tell us what Morrison is writing? Batman: The Return is a one shot.
Yeah it's pretty good