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Say something nice about a villain

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  • SynthesisSynthesis Honda Today! Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Big Isy wrote: »
    Synthesis wrote: »
    Big Isy wrote: »
    wwtMask wrote: »
    Hmmm, villains...


    Bin Laden and the other insurgents that eventually would form Al Qaeda did a good job of forcing the Soviets to waste money in Afghanistan.

    I was gonna go with him being awesome at hide-and-seek but whatever.

    Well, he's really good at it. He was good at making the Soviets (in Afghanistan) run around in circles, and he's good at making the Americans (there too) run back and forth.

    All this while being unusually tall (or so I've heard).

    He's also on dialysis. Well, was. Probably dead now.

    If so, then we'll never find him.

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  • LawndartLawndart Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Brian888 wrote: »
    If you can avoid being eaten, Hannibal Lecter would probably be one of the most fascinating people you could ever hope to meet.

    Not to prance off on a tangent, but Hannibal Lecter strikes me as a great example of how an author changes the portrayal of a villain due to the popularity of the character.

    Maybe it's different in the books, but in Manhunter he's portrayed as torturing and murdering female college students simply because he can, yet by the time the Red Dragon remake shows up he's a character who murders based solely on the presumed "rudeness" or aesthetic mis-steps of the victims.

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  • MrMisterMrMister Jesus dying on the cross in pain? Morally better than us. One has to go "all in".Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Clytamnestra was smart and competent, and really Agamemnon had it coming.

    Also, Medea's husband did some whack-ass shit.

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  • HappylilElfHappylilElf Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Hitler banned hunting with dogs - it was one of his first bits of legislature, I believe.

    Why is this a good thing?

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  • TomantaTomanta Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Stalin helped defeat Hitler. That was nice of him.

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  • BubbaTBubbaT Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Hitler banned hunting with dogs - it was one of his first bits of legislature, I believe.

    Why is this a good thing?

    If it's referring to fox-hunting it's a good thing, because people those are the sorriest, laziest, most incapable excuses for hunters I've ever seen. That's like calling yourself an explorer because you rode the jungle cruise at Disneyland.

    If it's just stopping Cousin Merl from bringing his ol smellhound Geech along when he goes huntin varmints, then yeah, I don't get it.

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  • SynthesisSynthesis Honda Today! Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Tomanta wrote: »
    Stalin helped defeat Hitler. That was nice of him.

    Helped nothing. In the context of "the big three" (or even just the heads of state of the major players of World War II), this is like saying, "Roosevelt, and then Truman, helped beat Hirohito." ~80% of German casualties in the Second World War were in the Eastern Front.

    Of course, this has its own problems. Because it's just the heads of state, versus the generals, staff officers, field officers, the actual enlisted men and women, etc.

    (I am, of course, just nitpicking with you, Tomanta--but it's disturbing the number of people who think the Eastern theater was just a minor sideline in the Second World War. I'm not accusing you of being one of those though.)
    BubbaT wrote: »
    Hitler banned hunting with dogs - it was one of his first bits of legislature, I believe.

    Why is this a good thing?

    If it's referring to fox-hunting it's a good thing, because people those are the sorriest, laziest, most incapable excuses for hunters I've ever seen. That's like calling yourself an explorer because you rode the jungle cruise at Disneyland.

    If it's just stopping Cousin Merl from bringing his ol smellhound Geech along when he goes huntin varmints, then yeah, I don't get it.

    I'm guessing it's more of the former (large-scale sport hunting). Though I wasn't aware Hitler had enacted such a law, though I knew he was very fond of dogs.

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  • Raybies666Raybies666 Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Leitner wrote: »
    The British Empire led to slavery being at an all time low, stopped some abhorent local practices in various countries, and collected the best museum in the world.

    The British really were the most competent of the colonial powers. Least they realized that colonies were more profitable if you developed them economically and let people have some level of self governance. Most of the other colonial countries just enslaved everyone and stripped the places of their resources.

    Apart from Ireland obviously.

    Edit: I was going to half jokingly say Hitler liked dogs, but beaten.

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  • LoveIsUnityLoveIsUnity Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    MrMister wrote: »
    Clytamnestra was smart and competent, and really Agamemnon had it coming.

    Also, Medea's husband did some whack-ass shit.

    I've seen a few literary scholars make a compelling argument that Medea was actually doing what was best for her children by not letting Jason have them. I also once convinced a class of Freshmen that she did the right thing when I taught that play a World Lit Class.

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  • Kipling217Kipling217 Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    BubbaT wrote: »
    Hitler banned hunting with dogs - it was one of his first bits of legislature, I believe.

    Why is this a good thing?

    If it's referring to fox-hunting it's a good thing, because people those are the sorriest, laziest, most incapable excuses for hunters I've ever seen. That's like calling yourself an explorer because you rode the jungle cruise at Disneyland.

    Look up Quail hunting. Bunch a people walk in a line while somebody beats two stick together. Eventually the Quails will leap up from the ground and try to fly away. Then the hunters shoot them with buckshot. from range of about 20-30 meters max.

    Dick Cheney was Quail hunting when he had his little shooting mishap.

    AND DICK CHENEY, for getting the guy you shot in face to appologize to you.

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  • emnmnmeemnmnme Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Wikipedia says John Wilkes Booth was an above-average actor who would have had a professional career were he not such an impatient know-it-all.

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  • DoctorArchDoctorArch Curmudgeon Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Andrew Jackson. Dickbag, who wasn't about to let some anti-tax goofballs from South Carolina fuck things up for the United States by way of nullification:
    Yes I have; please give my compliments to my friends in your State and say to them, that if a single drop of blood shall be shed there in opposition to the laws of the United States, I will hang the first man I can lay my hand on engaged in such treasonable conduct, upon the first tree I can reach.

    Cracks me up.
    Man, I hope I've got my history right on that one.

    I was just at Ft. Sumter last week and they confirmed this. I believe the exact quote from the park ranger was "So when the South Carolinians first thought about secession, Andrew Jackson told them he would come down and hang each and every one of them from the trees at Battery Park."

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  • Technicus RexTechnicus Rex All your base.Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    That alien/human hybrid thing in Species was smoking hot and also super horny.

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  • Ninja Snarl PNinja Snarl P My helmet is my burden. Ninja Snarl: Gone, but not forgotten.Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    BubbaT wrote: »
    Hitler banned hunting with dogs - it was one of his first bits of legislature, I believe.

    Why is this a good thing?

    If it's referring to fox-hunting it's a good thing, because people those are the sorriest, laziest, most incapable excuses for hunters I've ever seen. That's like calling yourself an explorer because you rode the jungle cruise at Disneyland.

    If it's just stopping Cousin Merl from bringing his ol smellhound Geech along when he goes huntin varmints, then yeah, I don't get it.

    Some varieties of hunting with dogs utilizes dogs trained to literally rip the nuts off of prey. I could see that being a hot-button issue with some people.

    Anyway, Scorpius may have been an amoral psychopath who insisted on playing with cosmic fire, but cripes was he dedicated. Also, great at planning.

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  • Rhesus PositiveRhesus Positive GNU Terry Pratchett Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    It was fox-hunting Hitler banned, yes. Took the British government another seventy years.

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  • TaramoorTaramoor Storyteller Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    BubbaT wrote: »
    Hitler banned hunting with dogs - it was one of his first bits of legislature, I believe.

    Why is this a good thing?

    If it's referring to fox-hunting it's a good thing, because people those are the sorriest, laziest, most incapable excuses for hunters I've ever seen. That's like calling yourself an explorer because you rode the jungle cruise at Disneyland.

    If it's just stopping Cousin Merl from bringing his ol smellhound Geech along when he goes huntin varmints, then yeah, I don't get it.

    Some varieties of hunting with dogs utilizes dogs trained to literally rip the nuts off of prey. I could see that being a hot-button issue with some people.

    Anyway, Scorpius may have been an amoral psychopath who insisted on playing with cosmic fire, but cripes was he dedicated. Also, great at planning.

    That reminds me of another supervillain who was just an all around nice guy.

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  • Technicus RexTechnicus Rex All your base.Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I also admire The Warmaster Horus.

    Sure he was duped into betraying his father The God Emperor Of Mankind and sparked a galactic civil war but he was a pretty cool guy before that and really ultra-fascism sucks balls and everyone knows that Chaos Is The Only Answer.

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  • myownsummermyownsummer Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Sadaam Hussein was known to really enjoy doritos. I forget what flavor.

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  • OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Ann Coulter isn't Michelle Malkin.

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  • LawndartLawndart Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    Ann Coulter isn't Michelle Malkin.

    Michelle Malkin isn't Pam Geller.

    Your move.

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  • shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Lawndart wrote: »
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    Ann Coulter isn't Michelle Malkin.

    Michelle Malkin isn't Pam Geller.

    Your move.

    All 3 of these people, by virtue of being alive, still have the chance of suffering horribly to make up for their crimes.

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  • HonkHonk Honk is this poster. Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2010
    Kim Jong Il is apparently very intelligent and read up on technical stuff like whoa.

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  • KhavallKhavall British ColumbiaRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Honk wrote: »
    Kim Jong Il is apparently very intelligent and read up on technical stuff like whoa.

    Where did you hear that?

    Because I would be very leery of information about Kim Jong Il being real.


    Unless he actually did shoot an 18 his first time playing golf.

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  • HonkHonk Honk is this poster. Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2010
    Some CNN article a long time ago. Came from an interview with some western engineers who were meeting with a team of North Korean engineers about missiles, Kim Jong Il had been there for some reason and taken part. One of the engineers had been quoted as saying that in the article.

    And this was a few years ago, so yeah not really 100% trustworthy.

    No doubt about the golf though!

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  • HappylilElfHappylilElf Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Honk wrote: »
    Kim Jong Il is apparently very intelligent and read up on technical stuff like whoa.

    He's also able to telepathically control NKs worldcup team.

    And he sucks at soccer apparently.

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  • LawndartLawndart Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Honk wrote: »
    Some CNN article a long time ago. Came from an interview with some western engineers who were meeting with a team of North Korean engineers about missiles, Kim Jong Il had been there for some reason and taken part. One of the engineers had been quoted as saying that in the article.

    And this was a few years ago, so yeah not really 100% trustworthy.

    No doubt about the golf though!

    Part of the whole Glorious Leader personality cult around Kim Jong-Il (and previously around his by all accounts more competent dad, Kim Il-Sung) is the idea that he just shows up at various factories, then notices and corrects flaws in their production methods that mere mortal North Koreans were unable to notice.

    So yeah, grain of salt.

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  • HonkHonk Honk is this poster. Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2010
    I think I put more faith in it because the people involved were not living in North Korea, and therefore weren't required to talk nice about Glorious Leader or else.

    Maybe.

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  • BubbaTBubbaT Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Kipling217 wrote: »
    BubbaT wrote: »
    Hitler banned hunting with dogs - it was one of his first bits of legislature, I believe.

    Why is this a good thing?

    If it's referring to fox-hunting it's a good thing, because people those are the sorriest, laziest, most incapable excuses for hunters I've ever seen. That's like calling yourself an explorer because you rode the jungle cruise at Disneyland.

    Look up Quail hunting. Bunch a people walk in a line while somebody beats two stick together. Eventually the Quails will leap up from the ground and try to fly away. Then the hunters shoot them with buckshot. from range of about 20-30 meters max.

    Dick Cheney was Quail hunting when he had his little shooting mishap.

    AND DICK CHENEY, for getting the guy you shot in face to appologize to you.

    At least they're the ones doing the actual hunting, albeit of a slow grounded retardo-bird.

    Fox hunters just ride horses, the actual hunting is done by the dogs. It's hunting by proxy. I might as well call myself a cook every time I order pizza.

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  • LeitnerLeitner Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    BubbaT wrote: »
    At least they're the ones doing the actual hunting, albeit of a slow grounded retardo-bird.

    Fox hunters just ride horses, the actual hunting is done by the dogs. It's hunting by proxy. I might as well call myself a cook every time I order pizza.

    Fox unting can actually be fairly dangerous, unlike sitting in wait with a rifle to kill something you have a fair chance of ending up seriously hurt.

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  • Ninja Snarl PNinja Snarl P My helmet is my burden. Ninja Snarl: Gone, but not forgotten.Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I dunno, I think the chances of getting hurt falling off your horse while drinking tea are probably just as good as getting hurt while falling out a tree while drinking beer.

    Plus, a deer can actually kill you. Getting killed by a fox would be pretty embarrassing.

    Anyway, Hugo Chavez is great for an ongoing education in why dictators and socialism are like a decades-long trainwreck. You can describe one to people all day long, but it just doesn't mean the same thing as seeing it actually happen.

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  • emnmnmeemnmnme Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Lawndart wrote: »
    Honk wrote: »
    Some CNN article a long time ago. Came from an interview with some western engineers who were meeting with a team of North Korean engineers about missiles, Kim Jong Il had been there for some reason and taken part. One of the engineers had been quoted as saying that in the article.

    And this was a few years ago, so yeah not really 100% trustworthy.

    No doubt about the golf though!

    Part of the whole Glorious Leader personality cult around Kim Jong-Il (and previously around his by all accounts more competent dad, Kim Il-Sung) is the idea that he just shows up at various factories, then notices and corrects flaws in their production methods that mere mortal North Koreans were unable to notice.

    So yeah, grain of salt.

    My favorite myth comes from a TV doc I saw a few months back. When Kim Jong-Il was born in a log cabin during a snow storm, the snow miraculously stopped. A new, bright star appeared in the sky and a bird descended from the heavens, defying the winter season. Kim Il Sung's bodyguards were so impressed with these signs from the earth that they carved their thoughts into a nearby tree. "A great leader has blessed the earth yadda yadda blah."

    Decades later, a Japanese tourist examined the tree. I don't remember if he was a botanist or dendrologist or what but he determined the tree with the carving in it could not have been around when Jong-Il was born in 1942. Tourists were then forbidden from seeing the cabin and the tree was immediately bulldozed.

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  • adytumadytum The Inevitable Rise And FallRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Leitner wrote: »
    BubbaT wrote: »
    At least they're the ones doing the actual hunting, albeit of a slow grounded retardo-bird.

    Fox hunters just ride horses, the actual hunting is done by the dogs. It's hunting by proxy. I might as well call myself a cook every time I order pizza.

    Fox unting can actually be fairly dangerous, unlike sitting in wait with a rifle to kill something you have a fair chance of ending up seriously hurt.

    How? By falling off your horse or slipping on some wet leaves?

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  • HappylilElfHappylilElf Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Riding horses and high speed cross country can be kinda dangerous.

    Not sure if that matters or anything though.

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  • IsidoreIsidore Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Occasionally an advertising company will make an advert that makes me smile or laugh. Case in point: the Old Spice ads with the guy on the horse with the diamonds.

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