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Gamers vs Robbers... "You ain't takin' my DS Lite! RAAAAGH!!!"

XehalusXehalus Registered User regular
edited August 2010 in Social Entropy++

Two masked robbers that targeted an internet gaming center in Kaneohe, Hawaii... Wednesday night never expected their victims to fight back. But they did and it was all caught on video.

This isn't something police encourage but the gamers say they were protecting their home.

It is just before midnight on Wednesday. Devin Wolery is sitting at the counter at PC Gamerz in Kaneohe watching over his nine customers when two masked men walk in.

"They came in and they started yelling at me like they had a problem with me," said Wolery.

Video surveillance shows him reaching to push a panic button to alert police when things escalate.

"Boom right there, jumps and punches me in the face -- knocks my glasses off."

Customers are unaware what's happening when he's struck again and that gets their attention.

"They start yelling at the customers, tell them to give them their money," said Wolery. "They were also making movements like they had a gun or some other kind of weapon."

Customers hand over whatever change they have while a suspect punches video monitors at the counter but the cameras are still rolling. That's when the suspect in black approaches Dylan Hays.

"They tried to take his DS, his Nintendo DS and he wasn't having that -- so he came back swinging," said Wolery.

"Then he hit me and I kind of just got angry and I bull-rushed him out there door," said Hays.

"I pulled him down the ground over here, the table got moved and I had him down on the ground he was still hitting me," said Wolery. "Dylan pulls off the guys mask -- he runs out the door -- his friends are outside waiting. Let's get out of here, let's get out of here and we were holding one guy in and still fighting him and the other guys come into the store --pull him out and take off."

Police are on the scene in minutes. Three teenagers are caught and arrested a block away, two 17-year-old boys and 18-year-old Brycen Iona. All three are familiar to the gamers.

"They were customers of us they gave us their information their personal information," said Wolery.

"I wish I was there," said Jim Wolery who is grateful his son's customers were there for him.

"I mean we're gamers, we've been immersed in that culture where like we all want to Superman, you know we're missing something partial in our brain that says yeah this might be dangerous," said Hays.

"We want to have people think of this as their home that they can come play games, find new friends talk to people," said Wolery.

"I mean its Devin's place but it's also ours, like this is where we come to hang out," said Hays.

All three suspects were released pending further investigation.

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  • DichotomyDichotomy Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
  • Penguin IncarnatePenguin Incarnate King of Kafiristan Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    See, I just play them because they're fun.

    Except when they aren't.

    Hmmmm.

  • nukanuka What are circles? Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Yes, this is what we need.

    Letting nerds believe they can take on the average joe in a fight with nothing but their mad DS skillz.

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  • The GeekThe Geek Oh-Two Crew Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2010
    I posted this in the YouTube thread and it was a bad idea then.

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus ha ha just kidding I'm Frog ManRegistered User regular
    edited August 2010
    I can totally kung fu fight, I've played over a hundred hours of Tekken.

  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Rogue Coral Springs, FLRegistered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Did anyone else notice how three people just stood there and watched? Pathetic.

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  • nukanuka What are circles? Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    Did anyone else notice how three people just stood there and watched? Pathetic.

    Oh that shit happens all the time, every so often you'll hear a story how some woman was raped in public or whatever other terrible thing happens and everyone just stands there and watches. It's actually got a name, but I can't remember what it is.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Rogue Coral Springs, FLRegistered User regular
    edited August 2010
    nuka wrote: »
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    Did anyone else notice how three people just stood there and watched? Pathetic.

    Oh that shit happens all the time, every so often you'll hear a story how some woman was raped in public or whatever other terrible thing happens and everyone just stands there and watches. It's actually got a name, but I can't remember what it is.

    Train wreck mentality, I assume.


    Also, those 'robbers' obviously thought they were mugging a bunch of geeks who couldn't defend themselves. They weren't exactly a threat.
    (Neither were their targets, apparently.)

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  • nukanuka What are circles? Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    nuka wrote: »
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    Did anyone else notice how three people just stood there and watched? Pathetic.

    Oh that shit happens all the time, every so often you'll hear a story how some woman was raped in public or whatever other terrible thing happens and everyone just stands there and watches. It's actually got a name, but I can't remember what it is.

    Train wreck mentality, I assume.


    Also, those 'robbers' obviously thought they were mugging a bunch of geeks who couldn't defend themselves. They weren't exactly a threat.
    (Neither were their targets, apparently.)

    Yeah, or "It's none of my business."

    Pretty despicable, but then again that's probably why heroes are more treasured cause they actually got off their ass and did something.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2010
    I prefer the story about the law student who beat the ever-loving shit out of a robber after the guy tried to take his laptop and all his notes.
    A thief learned the mistake of trying to steal a law student's laptop last week after after becoming a punching bag for an Arizona State student he tried to rip off. Armed with a baseball bat, the intruder, Gabriel Saucedo, allegedly climbed through an open window into Alex Botsios' apartment, waking the student and threatening to smash his head in.

    Botsios was willing to let Saucedo take his wallet and guitars. Then the robber made the mistake that ultimately landed him in the hospital -- he went for the laptop. According to Botsios, he said "Dude, no -- please, no! I have all my case notes...that's four months of work!" Saucedo, obviously underestimating the fury of an overstressed, overworked first-year, was unsympathetic. That's when Botsios could take no more.

    Wrestling Saucdeo to the floor, Botsios separated the bat from the thief and repeatedly punched him in the face. When it was all over, police had to get Saucedo stitched up before charging him with armed robbery and kidnapping, while Botsios only suffered some scrapes and a bruised knuckle. Most importantly, at least to the student, is that his laptop, which he called "his baby," escaped unharmed. Next time, Saucedo might want to try robbing a third-year student, as they're generally more docile.

    http://www.switched.com/2008/11/14/why-you-should-never-try-to-steal-a-law-students-laptop/

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  • The GeekThe Geek Oh-Two Crew Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2010
    I don't get what the "this is why I play video games" statement is supposed to mean. You play video games because you might get mugged and your smelly friends happen to have strength in numbers so they are able win a slap fight with some punks who could have possibly been armed with guns or knives and could have murdered you? I dunno man, that seems like a bad reason to play video games.

    I play them because they are fun.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Rogue Coral Springs, FLRegistered User regular
    edited August 2010
    It was immediately obvious those guys had no weapons, or they would've drawn them the moment they walked in.

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus ha ha just kidding I'm Frog ManRegistered User regular
    edited August 2010
    I prefer the story about the law student who beat the ever-loving shit out of a robber after the guy tried to take his laptop and all his notes.
    A thief learned the mistake of trying to steal a law student's laptop last week after after becoming a punching bag for an Arizona State student he tried to rip off. Armed with a baseball bat, the intruder, Gabriel Saucedo, allegedly climbed through an open window into Alex Botsios' apartment, waking the student and threatening to smash his head in.

    Botsios was willing to let Saucedo take his wallet and guitars. Then the robber made the mistake that ultimately landed him in the hospital -- he went for the laptop. According to Botsios, he said "Dude, no -- please, no! I have all my case notes...that's four months of work!" Saucedo, obviously underestimating the fury of an overstressed, overworked first-year, was unsympathetic. That's when Botsios could take no more.

    Wrestling Saucdeo to the floor, Botsios separated the bat from the thief and repeatedly punched him in the face. When it was all over, police had to get Saucedo stitched up before charging him with armed robbery and kidnapping, while Botsios only suffered some scrapes and a bruised knuckle. Most importantly, at least to the student, is that his laptop, which he called "his baby," escaped unharmed. Next time, Saucedo might want to try robbing a third-year student, as they're generally more docile.

    http://www.switched.com/2008/11/14/why-you-should-never-try-to-steal-a-law-students-laptop/

    haha, wow

    bet that burglar felt like a silly goose

  • nukanuka What are circles? Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    The Geek wrote: »
    I don't get what the "this is why I play video games" statement is supposed to mean. You play video games because you might get mugged and your smelly friends happen to have strength in numbers so the are able win a slap fight with some punks who could have possibly been armed with guns or knives and could have murdered you? I dunno man, that seems like a bad reason to play video games.

    I play them because they are fun.

    Oh bullshit, all that time working at Valve, you are like an expert in hats and warfare.

    Clearly, there is no better medium for teaching yourself self defense than video games.

    EDIT: Those kids are stupidly lucky.
    I think one of them was hacking.

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  • GatsbyGatsby You come at the Nidoking You best not missRegistered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Man if he robbed an Arts student shit would've been a whole lot easier.

    edit: t Munkus' story of course

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  • Speed RacerSpeed Racer I'm Speed Racer and I drive real fast. I drive real fast, I'm gonna last.Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    nuka wrote: »
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    Did anyone else notice how three people just stood there and watched? Pathetic.

    Oh that shit happens all the time, every so often you'll hear a story how some woman was raped in public or whatever other terrible thing happens and everyone just stands there and watches. It's actually got a name, but I can't remember what it is.

    It's the Bystander Effect. A person is less likely to help the more people there are around.

    People perceive blame as being diffused across everyone present. So if it's just you and a person attacking someone else, it's entirely your fault if they're not helped. But if there are 20 witnesses, it's only 1/20th your fault.

    There's also the fact that people determine how to act in unfamiliar situations in part by studying the reactions of others, so the more people that aren't helping, the less likely an additional bystander is to help.

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  • nukanuka What are circles? Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    nuka wrote: »
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    Did anyone else notice how three people just stood there and watched? Pathetic.

    Oh that shit happens all the time, every so often you'll hear a story how some woman was raped in public or whatever other terrible thing happens and everyone just stands there and watches. It's actually got a name, but I can't remember what it is.

    It's the Bystander Effect. A person is less likely to help the more people there are around.

    People perceive blame as being diffused across everyone present. So if it's just you and a person attacking someone else, it's entirely your fault if they're not helped. But if there are 20 witnesses, it's only 1/20th your fault.

    There's also the fact that people determine how to act in unfamiliar situations in part by studying the reactions of others, so the more people that aren't helping, the less likely an additional bystander is to help.
    Yes! There we go, thank you.

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  • UrielUriel Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    nuka wrote: »
    Clearly, there is no better medium for teaching yourself self defense than video games.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_sINQ4Fxzw

  • nukanuka What are circles? Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Uriel wrote: »
    nuka wrote: »
    Clearly, there is no better medium for teaching yourself self defense than video games.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_sINQ4Fxzw

    You mean to tell me that all these years playing Zelda games hasn't made me into an expert swordsman!?

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  • UrielUriel Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Well Nuka, I dont know.

    Can you even lift a sword.

  • mensch-o-maticmensch-o-matic Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Gatsby wrote: »
    Man if he robbed an Arts student shit would've been a whole lot easier.

    edit: t Munkus' story of course

    considering how expensive art supplies are

    they would've walked away with an ass full of wax fruit

  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2010
    Gatsby wrote: »
    Man if he robbed an Arts student shit would've been a whole lot easier.

    edit: t Munkus' story of course

    with how expensive art supplies are

    they would've walked away with an ass full of wax fruit

    man, read the story again.

    It's not about the actual, material value of the thing.

    It's about the emotional value of the thing.

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  • XehalusXehalus Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    I'm willing to argue that Video Games, definitely prohibit an efficiency in adrenaline realization, and that's why these guys didn't back down from the pillaging they recieved from their poverty-abused peers.

    Brains > Brawn

    At least, against unnarmed thugs.

  • nukanuka What are circles? Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Uriel wrote: »
    Well Nuka, I dont know.

    Can you even lift a sword.

    I really can't. :lol:
    I've never even thrown a punch before.

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  • BucketmanBucketman Dyslexic Puppy Skraggle RockRegistered User regular
    edited August 2010
    nuka wrote: »
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    Did anyone else notice how three people just stood there and watched? Pathetic.

    Oh that shit happens all the time, every so often you'll hear a story how some woman was raped in public or whatever other terrible thing happens and everyone just stands there and watches. It's actually got a name, but I can't remember what it is.

    It's the Bystander Effect. A person is less likely to help the more people there are around.

    People perceive blame as being diffused across everyone present. So if it's just you and a person attacking someone else, it's entirely your fault if they're not helped. But if there are 20 witnesses, it's only 1/20th your fault.

    There's also the fact that people determine how to act in unfamiliar situations in part by studying the reactions of others, so the more people that aren't helping, the less likely an additional bystander is to help.

    See I find this to be bullshit. I just, I don't think I could stand there watching or walk by. This is why I need to learn a martial art or at least get ripped, also I need titanium skin and knife vision.

    Then again, I use to work at the GameStop closest to Gary Indiana, so about 70% of our customers where gang bangers who acted tough as shit until you yelled at them then acted like school kids who got yelled at by the teacher. I did get a drive by threatened on me once by some guys running a scam on me.

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  • UrielUriel Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    I hear that swords are really goddamn heavy.

  • nukanuka What are circles? Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Xehalus wrote: »
    I'm willing to argue that Video Games, definately prohibit an efficiency in adrenaline realization, and that's why these guys didn't back down from pillaging of their poverty-abused peers.

    Brains > Brawn

    At least, against unnarmed thugs.

    ""They tried to take his DS, his Nintendo DS and he wasn't having that -- so he came back swinging," said Wolery.

    "Then he hit me and I kind of just got angry and I bull-rushed him out there door," said Hays."

    Sounds more like he nerd raged on them.

    EDIT: Wait I don't think I know what I'm talking about.

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  • GatsbyGatsby You come at the Nidoking You best not missRegistered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Gatsby wrote: »
    Man if he robbed an Arts student shit would've been a whole lot easier.

    edit: t Munkus' story of course

    considering how expensive art supplies are

    they would've walked away with an ass full of wax fruit

    I mostly meant Arts as in English/Philosophy students. But yeah, if it was an Arts student whose supplies were being stolen dear god nothing would stop the eternal beating of that crook. More so if it was the art diary for the semester.

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  • mensch-o-maticmensch-o-matic Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Gatsby wrote: »
    Man if he robbed an Arts student shit would've been a whole lot easier.

    edit: t Munkus' story of course

    with how expensive art supplies are

    they would've walked away with an ass full of wax fruit

    man, read the story again.

    It's not about the actual, material value of the thing.

    It's about the emotional value of the thing.

    i know people who would hurt people for mixing up the colors in their marker box, let alone trying to take it

    copics grow on you after a while

  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Rogue Coral Springs, FLRegistered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Speaking from experience, it's easier to say you'd stand up and do something than it is to actually act in that kind of situation, but there's no excuse to watch someone else getting beat up and not help them detain a jerk who would've robbed you.

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  • UrielUriel Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    nuka wrote: »
    Xehalus wrote: »
    I'm willing to argue that Video Games, definately prohibit an efficiency in adrenaline realization, and that's why these guys didn't back down from pillaging of their poverty-abused peers.

    Brains > Brawn

    At least, against unnarmed thugs.

    ""They tried to take his DS, his Nintendo DS and he wasn't having that -- so he came back swinging," said Wolery.

    "Then he hit me and I kind of just got angry and I bull-rushed him out there door," said Hays."

    Sounds more like he nerd raged on them.

    EDIT: Wait I don't think I know what I'm talking about.
    Bull rush You can make a bull rush as a standard action (an attack) or as part of a charge. When you make a bull rush, you attempt to push an opponent straight back instead of damaging him. You can only bull rush an opponent who is one size category larger than you, the same size, or smaller.

  • DichotomyDichotomy Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Xehalus wrote: »
    I'm willing to argue that Video Games, definitely prohibit an efficiency in adrenaline realization, and that's why these guys didn't back down from the pillaging from their poverty-abused peers.

    this doesn't even make sense

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  • nukanuka What are circles? Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Uriel wrote: »
    I hear that swords are really goddamn heavy.

    I've lifted one of my friend's katanas. I doubt it was a real one but those are actually pretty light.

    Even so, even if I could pick one up I'd sooner poke my own eye out than anything else, and I don't think anybody else who's also had about zero training in swordsmanship would be any different.

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  • GatsbyGatsby You come at the Nidoking You best not missRegistered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Someone once jokingly swiped a paint brush against my end of year/high school art project. They then pointed out the brush was dry and nothing had been altered on the work but holy fuck was I ready to murder that bitch.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Rogue Coral Springs, FLRegistered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Funny that the least physically fit were the ones who fought back.

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  • mensch-o-maticmensch-o-matic Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    ohhh english majors

    yeah theyre a bunch of pussies

    id go rob one right now if there was any chance theyd own anything of monetary value

  • nukanuka What are circles? Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Uriel wrote: »
    nuka wrote: »
    Xehalus wrote: »
    I'm willing to argue that Video Games, definately prohibit an efficiency in adrenaline realization, and that's why these guys didn't back down from pillaging of their poverty-abused peers.

    Brains > Brawn

    At least, against unnarmed thugs.

    ""They tried to take his DS, his Nintendo DS and he wasn't having that -- so he came back swinging," said Wolery.

    "Then he hit me and I kind of just got angry and I bull-rushed him out there door," said Hays."

    Sounds more like he nerd raged on them.

    EDIT: Wait I don't think I know what I'm talking about.
    Bull rush You can make a bull rush as a standard action (an attack) or as part of a charge. When you make a bull rush, you attempt to push an opponent straight back instead of damaging him. You can only bull rush an opponent who is one size category larger than you, the same size, or smaller.
    Oh I got what a bull rush was, I just don't believe the dude was doing a lot of thinking, that he was just so enraged he lost his temper and attacked them.

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  • BucketmanBucketman Dyslexic Puppy Skraggle RockRegistered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Uriel wrote: »
    nuka wrote: »
    Xehalus wrote: »
    I'm willing to argue that Video Games, definately prohibit an efficiency in adrenaline realization, and that's why these guys didn't back down from pillaging of their poverty-abused peers.

    Brains > Brawn

    At least, against unnarmed thugs.

    ""They tried to take his DS, his Nintendo DS and he wasn't having that -- so he came back swinging," said Wolery.

    "Then he hit me and I kind of just got angry and I bull-rushed him out there door," said Hays."

    Sounds more like he nerd raged on them.

    EDIT: Wait I don't think I know what I'm talking about.
    Bull rush You can make a bull rush as a standard action (an attack) or as part of a charge. When you make a bull rush, you attempt to push an opponent straight back instead of damaging him. You can only bull rush an opponent who is one size category larger than you, the same size, or smaller.

    Roll a grapple check

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  • UrielUriel Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Katanas are for pansy ass samurai...

    Real swords weigh as much as a tuck and do as much crushing as they do cutting.

  • nukanuka What are circles? Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Dichotomy wrote: »
    Xehalus wrote: »
    I'm willing to argue that Video Games, definitely prohibit an efficiency in adrenaline realization, and that's why these guys didn't back down from the pillaging from their poverty-abused peers.

    this doesn't even make sense

    Wait I think I get it now.

    Dude's play a lot of games, gets his adrenaline working often, gets used too that and can react in a timely manner.

    Which is bullshit in my opinion, if they weren't threatening to take his DS, but his life instead he would have pissed his pants right then and there.

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