Our new Indie Games subforum is now open for business in G&T. Go and check it out, you might land a code for a free game. If you're developing an indie game and want to post about it,
follow these directions. If you don't, he'll break your legs! Hahaha! Seriously though.
Our rules have been updated and given
their own forum. Go and look at them! They are nice, and there may be new ones that you didn't know about! Hooray for rules! Hooray for The System! Hooray for Conforming!
Exciting new thread to discuss the exciting new rules!
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There's an entire forum dedicated to that.
Report them. I don't want to miss anything. Nothing posted prior to the announcement though.
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Exactly! We can eliminate using a whole section of the forum with that option instead... also with the current system.. we cannot show our displeasure with certain post on the forum. Only positive opinions are noted.
There is always going to be a level of D&D in H&A threads, that's unavoidable. And since I've been on the site for over 7 years, I seriously doubt that pointing fingers at me over something that you feel has been occurring over the past year is a pretty goosey thing to do (as in I'm not some sort of new kid on the scene who is causing this). I've been around the block quite a few times, and yes, I'm going to end up disagreeing on many points with certain members of this forum with far, far, far less experience than myself.
EDIT: One has to point out where people are being gooses to establish points and prevent people from taking terrible, terrible advice.
You'd have to completely write that into the VB code. Alpha has also said in the past he doesn't like custom mods since they break every time VBulletin updates so if you have a wish for a new feature you'd have to convince these guys to add it to the main build.
But it's not the place. For the most recent example, arguing about whether that guy's email (he wasn't even the OP) was passive aggressive is pointless and just derails the thread. If you think it's bad just say it once and let it go.
I agree with you that it was dumb by the way, but when there is as much argument as advice in a thread then I think we have a problem.
EDIT: And I'm pretty sure you only started posting a lot in relationship threads recently.
There is not any rule against arguing for or against the advice people give.
Here is the important part from the rules sticky:
IE: Arguing against someone's advice is very much allowed so long as it is done with reasoning or alternate advice.
This is as it should be. I strongly disagree with anyone wanting to disallow "arguing" or "D&D". The current rules are more than adequate in that respect.
That's not derailing the thread, that's giving advice/help as to why to not follow that course of action. People often (especially on these forums) need things spelled out.
I think posters should really strive to leave the D&D out of it. If you need to know some random detail that changes everything, ask, rather than making grand arguments like "We don't know X, so I can make these 6 other points to argue why I might be right and you might be wrong."
If a bunch of people disagree with Esh and a big argument breaks out, the best advice is probably somewhere in between what Esh is saying and what everyone else is saying.
If a bunch of people agree with Esh but the OP disagrees, the OP is completely fucked up and will never listen to what anyone is saying anyways.
To put it another way, Esh's advice is very often the most correct, but less often the most useful.
They're not being addressed at other posters, rather their points which directly concern the OP. The level of modding that would need to be done at the level you think is appropriate would be enormous.
D&D is an extremely important part of any sort of learning experience, which is exactly what H&A strives to be. If you want to cut the D&D out, you're effectively cutting the balls off of any advice given.
Just my two cents.
CUZ THERE'S SOMETHING IN THE MIDDLE AND IT'S GIVING ME A RASH
It's just an easy way to purge the board of Philistines.
Yeah I know it is sticky but I just think Opinion Kombat should be discouraged. some debate is necessary, but ultimately it is up to the OP to decide which advice is bad and which advice is good.
I don't have an illusion that argument will go away, or that the mods should have to police everyone to play nice. But I don't think beating other peoples advice into submission should be par the course, or people will be just as reluctant to post advice as they are to ask for it.
I presume you're being glib, but making such an extremely common grammar mistake does not a Philistine make.
It just smacks of unfounded and completely unnecessary elitism.
No, it's up to the OP to decide what they want to do. Very often this has very little relation to what advice was bad or good or indeed what course of action is wise.
Esh and I don't see eye-to-eye on really most things. When someone makes ME have to agree with Esh it accomplishes two things: 1) it shows that the point is fairly reasonable as stated by people with two very different views on things and 2) it pisses me off.
!!!*hugs*!!!
Yes. It is unreasonable to expect people to type what they mean. I mean, it's not like it's a text based medium where one can easily review what they've said before anyone else sees it. And clearly, it would be unfair to demand someone to know the difference between "your" and "you're" when they're only telling someone else how to live.
Sorry, but it's not difficult or unreasonable.
CUZ THERE'S SOMETHING IN THE MIDDLE AND IT'S GIVING ME A RASH
It was a lot more objective than the points Esh makes that other thread.
Agreed.
I've seen people give absolutely horrible advice in threads before, where disagreement was so important I'd even suggest it was essential.
In one extreme case, some idiot seriously suggested that the OP mix ammonia and bleach for a cleaning solution. Obviously not every case is going to potentially put the health and well-being of the OP in jeopardy...but because there is no "horrible advice" filter on this forum, we have to leave it to the masses to correct and/or disagree with the horrible advice when it does surface. Even if the advice isn't horrible, I think it's entirely reasonable that people post their opposing views (and try to defend them), if they genuinely believe theirs is the better or "more correct" one, and will benefit the OP moreso than the advice others are suggesting.
What's that?
CUZ THERE'S SOMETHING IN THE MIDDLE AND IT'S GIVING ME A RASH
CUZ THERE'S SOMETHING IN THE MIDDLE AND IT'S GIVING ME A RASH
Rimshot? What?
EDIT: That's too bad though, the video embedding one was pretty spot on.
CUZ THERE'S SOMETHING IN THE MIDDLE AND IT'S GIVING ME A RASH
I'm saying that I was arguing about where people were very clearly giving advice that I couldn't use, and wasn't asking for. But that isn't really what you are arguing about, so I'm not sure my point is valid. I hadn't read that post in the relationship thread. I generally don't post in relationship threads, where there are more grey areas and reasons to argue.
Should I even ask what the colloquial meaning is?
Reading this, I suppose that the focus of these new and exciting rules likely falls more upon those replying to issues raised by posters than those seeking advice. And your snark aside, I can see where you're coming from. When I visit this forum, it is almost always for the more objective topics - "how do I change my oil?" "where are neat places to visit in city [x]" "how do I make this software program do [y]?" In fact, the generally sterling quality of such advice on this forum is what spurred me to register in the first place.
The more personal threads are not my cup of tea, so I think I probably miss most, if not the vast majority of the friction and arguments that occur around here.
That said, it would be disheartening for someone new to the forums to catch heat from a descending horde of rabid grammarians for mistaking your and you're. I realize that posting entails having read the rules, and hope that your campaign will educate more people than it alienates.
*Never mind I suppose!
Did he kill the youtube rule too? Damn, I guess no non-annoying music thread for me.
I mean... come on