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Like, flannel shirt, glassless frames, a wispy dirtstache and a fucking rubber adhesive tape ring? Are you fucking kidding me? You offend my eyes.
How did rock music "flower and grow?" It traded various cliches like micro-stock traders.
coming in and taking over local businesses
maybe we should get rid of all of them in like, some kind of big event
Yeah, I mean, just like with most extraneous things, the more impoverished an area, the less you're going to see an emphasis on fads and trends. When all you have to worry about are first world problems, you have plenty of time to develop subcultures.
Do you mean the rural south?
Athens, GA has its fair share.
They're all over the bloody place in New Orleans
speaking of facial hair, I work with a guy that has the most glorious mustache I've ever seen.
It looks like this
but he is like 24 and from canada and it just works so great. I would swear he was hipstery but he doesn't really do anything other than drink a ton.
Why are you so offended by this conversation dude
Did someone call you a hipster today
Maybe round them up in some sort of retreat where they can focus on ridding themselves of their terribleness.
nope I just hate Jews
Bear in mind that i brought this up when I was trying to explain to mike what bothers people about hipsters.
To your Floyd guy there, that's his culture. So if he sees a kid wearing that shirt, he might think "what the fuck? has he even listened to them?" I mean, that's a normal human reaction. And that's part of what bothers people about hipsters, is when they see the things they like packaged and commodified. And if it bothers hipsters that people are bothered by it, well, that's their row to hoe.
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I mean I guess it's true I don't like people I view as artificial and fake but pretty much every hipster I knew was like this. I had some friends in the local music scene in chapel hill and the people I met who tried the hardest to appear like hipsters were awful people.
....What do you know of Atlanta?
Ironically hating jews makes you such a hipster.
I'm all: man they have great taste
it also grew in the States for lots of different reasons
I don't like the phrase "It's his culture" there
I used to live there. I enlisted out of Fort Gillem.
Almost no youth subculture chooses a pleasing wardrobe. I'll point to my grunge days. I had a flannel shirt too then. Worn untucked. I also didn't shave. Admittedly I could actually grow a beard so I tended to have to keep mine somewhat trimmed to keep it properly grungy.
I see a 12 year old with a RATM shirt and I'm like "fuck yeah rage"
Then they need an adult cause I said a swear, but whatever the shirt is cool.
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I think a more accurate criticism of eddy's point, and the one I was trying to get at even though I phrased it poorly, is that people's motivation for dressing is A) unknowable unless you intimately know the person, and B) irrelevant, because it's so variable from person to person and day to day. Criticizing a certain type of dress as a "costume" is silly goosery of the highest order. All dress is costume.
At the end of the day it's all about sticking it to the man!
that's not what my history professor told me
no it pretty much was a reaction to the stiff-upper-lip mentality at odds with the 70's nanny state. Though it deals more with synthpop thank punk, the BBC did an excellent documentary on how electronic music -- mostly synthpop, but also acts like cabaret voltaire -- were pretty direct results for England's socio-economic climate.
@Eddy: I think that hipsters are a pretty clear and direct result of a post-industrial society and a proliferation of postmodern thought via public intellectuals and art.
Your hating on hipsters amounts to hating on people who try too hard and are shallow and fake.
No shit, everyone hates those people.
This is exactly why I hate the term "hipster".
But that was just because I liked to dress that way
Because I guess I have no taste
That's because a lot of youth subcultures are also counterculture. Punks didn't get mohawks and dye their hair bright colors purely for fashion reasons, they also did it because it challenged conservative views. Same with pretty much everything else they wore.
And annoying one's parents.
that may be where it started but I'd hardly define it as the entire movement
I know you like to stake out ridiculous positions just to see if you can but I really honestly have no interest in charging up this particular hill right now. Suffice to say that if you see a genre that in fifteen years ranged from Brian Wilson to Joe Satriani to Elvis Costello and want to claim that it didn't flower and grow, well, I wish you joy of your intensely attenuated tastes and thank God I don't share them
mapmaking, yes
that's the next big thing
Actual Play: Mage: the Awakening - At the Edge of All Things
they are just a really solid act
Word? Me too!
Then you might have just been a slob. Thankfully you identify as male gender, so that's pretty damn easy to fix.
Yes, almost all youth movements have an aspect of rebellion in them. Even groups like the Preppies of the 80's were rebelling, just against other youth movements.
And the whole commercial is full glasses of water getting thrown through the air. And the whole time, I'm imaging that they are full to the brim with menses.
Whatever happened to stock footage of puppies and happy families picnicking?
If all of those people weren't hipsters I wouldn't say "i don't like hipsters"
I've also listed several other reasons why I don't like hipsters. what I am saying is that there are several things about the hipster 'movement' that I have observed and disliked.
At the end of the day all you have are people. Some dress like this and talk like this, some dress like that and talk like that. The boundary between hipster and non-hipster is, of course, nonsense. It's like asking when a pond becomes a lake.
But we keep talking about "hipsters" like the word is as real and reliable as "railroads" or "buttermilk biscuits" when it's this perverse, hideous term that's defined by people who hate the people they're conjuring up in their minds to shove into this fabricated category. It's a dog and pony show and it's getting really tiring. Especially considering the critics who lambaste "hipster culture" are now officially more stuck up than the caricature they're raging against.
Y'know?
/debate
They were expressing the truth of their experience, Podly, and they were not a monolith, although I realize it's fun to pretend otherwise. And if their "mode of discourse" was dominant, maybe that says something useful about how it spoke to people at the time.
Actual Play: Mage: the Awakening - At the Edge of All Things