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'Whomp!' June 6, 2011 "Heavy Petting"

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  • rfilyawrfilyaw Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Verom wrote: »
    These are great, totally adding your site to my little list of comics. I both like that you use the halftones, but at the same time, it can start to bug my eyes while I'm reading the text, I think the texture works a lot better

    Thanks Verom, every subscriber is important! <img class=" title=":mrgreen:" class="bbcode_smiley" />

    So that's at least two and a half votes for the texture, and only half a vote for the halftone.

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    "Daddy knows what he needs, and it's Fart Patrol." - Justin McElroy
  • Stupid Mr Whoopsie NameStupid Mr Whoopsie Name Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2010
    Seems appropriate.

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  • rfilyawrfilyaw Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    I'm awesome help!

    I think you've got the right idea. I like the original moire patterns, but I completely understand where it's painful to the eyes after a while. I'd recommend trying the same pattern, but increase it's size here and there. As in, don't use it uniformly for the whole comic. Try a larger version of the moire pattern for large surface areas, like the ground.

    Halftone is such a pain in the butt, and doing that would make it even moreso. I might just nix the moire altogether and start experimenting with other textures that are a bit easier to apply.

    Here's how I do the halftone now. I take the entire grayscale layer and import it into a new file. I convert the color to 'Bitmap' and select 'Halftone Pattern.' Is there another way to do it for black and white? I know there's one under Filter -> Pixelate, but it's for color halftone. I'd like to be able to use that one for black and white.

    Edit: Well I see that I can turn my picture grayscale and still use the 'color' option and it works pretty good. I'll play with that.

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    "Daddy knows what he needs, and it's Fart Patrol." - Justin McElroy
  • Stupid Mr Whoopsie NameStupid Mr Whoopsie Name Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2010
    You raise a good point. I see your point, and raise you a counter-point!

    Check out this comic, I feel like it does what you're aiming for exceedingly well. I can't speak for the writing but take a look at the art.

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  • rfilyawrfilyaw Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    You raise a good point. I see your point, and raise you a counter-point!

    Check out this comic, I feel like it does what you're aiming for exceedingly well. I can't speak for the writing but take a look at the art.

    I see, I see. It seems like the wider shots use a heavier moire while the tighter shots use a more subtle one. Thanks a lot, this will give me a lot to think about and experiment with.

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    "Daddy knows what he needs, and it's Fart Patrol." - Justin McElroy
  • rfilyawrfilyaw Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
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    Really happy about this one turned out.

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    "Daddy knows what he needs, and it's Fart Patrol." - Justin McElroy
  • MabelmaMabelma Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Hahaha, I think that new style balances everything, keep up the great work. Also added to my favs, keep at it, I think you will become a great cartoonists looking forward to what your comic evolves to.

    Have some time, check out my blog
  • ParadiseParadise Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Mabelma wrote: »
    Hahaha, I think that new style balances everything, keep up the great work. Also added to my favs, keep at it, I think you will become a great cartoonists looking forward to what your comic evolves to.

    I completely agree with this, and the panda comic is my favorite so far.

  • rfilyawrfilyaw Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Thank you both. Kris Straub (Chainsawsuit, Starslip) looked at my comic (the Bill & Ted one) last night and without missing a beat he said "WOW, you really love KC Green." And I blushed because it's true, and I think I went a little too far emulating him. There's an old saying (or should be), that if you copy something great, you can never be better than the original.

    I'm going to keep refining my shading, but I'm still very interested in keeping it grayscale. I, too, am looking forward to seeing how I turn out as a cartoonist. ;D

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    "Daddy knows what he needs, and it's Fart Patrol." - Justin McElroy
  • MabelmaMabelma Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    I don't really know KC Green but I had that feeling that I had seen the style before but I like that your still trying to be original you're on the right track. Kris Straub is a giant, I'm glad you got noticed by him. Keep up the amazing work.

    Have some time, check out my blog
  • FletcherFletcher Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    the deadpan "you live with me now" i the panda strip worked really well

    i can see similarities to KC in your linework, but your characters and so forth certainly seem different enough to make it unique!

    also i love the new shading style much more, it looks SO NICE and crisp

  • bikkibikkibobikkibikkibo Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    I mostly lurk here as I'm not an artist myself. I haven't touched pencil to paper in 10+ years anyway. I do read pretty much every thread and check out everyone's comics while I'm at work. I'm diggin' on this new thread. Great work!

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  • rfilyawrfilyaw Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    I mostly lurk here as I'm not an artist myself. I haven't touched pencil to paper in 10+ years anyway. I do read pretty much every thread and check out everyone's comics while I'm at work. I'm diggin' on this new thread. Great work!

    Thank you so so much for unlurking for me! I'll keep posting every 3 days or so.

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    "Daddy knows what he needs, and it's Fart Patrol." - Justin McElroy
  • rfilyawrfilyaw Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    "Surely It Is Back There"
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    Edit: Oki, fixed. Be sure to refresh your browsa.

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    "Daddy knows what he needs, and it's Fart Patrol." - Justin McElroy
  • rfilyawrfilyaw Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    New comic. Am I posting fast enough? I wish I could do these daily. Better readership that way.

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    "Daddy knows what he needs, and it's Fart Patrol." - Justin McElroy
  • IrukaIruka Registered User, Super Moderator, Moderator mod
    edited August 2010
    I like it, but I think it would be better to show him on the ground, because it seems like he should be in sight on the floor. I would also show him on the ground with the thud in the second to last panel, and have a silent panel with him K'O'd a the end.

    Thats just my opinion. I like your character you handle expressions pretty awesomely.

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  • rfilyawrfilyaw Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Iruka wrote: »
    I like it, but I think it would be better to show him on the ground, because it seems like he should be in sight on the floor. I would also show him on the ground with the thud in the second to last panel, and have a silent panel with him K'O'd a the end.

    Thats just my opinion. I like your character you handle expressions pretty awesomely.

    You know what's horrifying Iruka? That's exactly what I wanted to do, with the three panels, but there was no way to get the panning shot I wanted to fit in there with 3 panels. I'm so disappointed now that I didn't figure something out. I could take the last three panels and arrange them vertically, but it would have made it super tall. I'm debating now whether I should fix it or just do a new strip tomorrow.

    Also, thank you for the super nice comment on my expressions. I work really hard on them.

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    "Daddy knows what he needs, and it's Fart Patrol." - Justin McElroy
  • rfilyawrfilyaw Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Ah, here we go. This is much more in line with my original vision. Sorry he's still not visible. I'm a big fan of implicit slapstick (as much as explicit, so they work equally well for me in many situations.)

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    "Daddy knows what he needs, and it's Fart Patrol." - Justin McElroy
  • KendeathwalkerKendeathwalker Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    pacing in the last one is much better. I would even cut out the running into the door panel. Most people will fill in the gap between him running and a thud sound with funnier imagery than you could ever draw.

    More powerful to show the shadow of the monster not the monster-- all that.

  • rfilyawrfilyaw Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
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    Well, I've completely lost my edge, but whateva. I guess I was just trying to introduce this new character, so it was kinda slow. Maybe the next one will be good. *shrug*

    Edit: Oh, also, tell me what you think of my new lines. You'll notice I stepped down by about half on my line weight. I am trying to figure out how the heck I can make this thing look good when colored. It seems when I stick color to thick-lined things, it never comes out right. What are your opinions, AC?

    Edit2: Hey, check the spoiler for a colored version. I want lots of opinions on which is better (colored or black and white) and how can I can improve it.
    Spoiler:

    Edit3: Yech! Just noticed she's way too small in one panel. Gonna fix that.
    Edit4: And fixed.
    Edit5: Also, did anyone else get a boner? No? Ok.

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    "Daddy knows what he needs, and it's Fart Patrol." - Justin McElroy
  • MabelmaMabelma Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    I'm accustomed to the B&W but the color looks great I would suggest you keep the textures, they made everything look great.

    Have some time, check out my blog
  • rfilyawrfilyaw Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Back in black! (and white)
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    "Daddy knows what he needs, and it's Fart Patrol." - Justin McElroy
  • MabelmaMabelma Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Hehe, I like this one a lot. Great work. B&W seems to be best.

    Have some time, check out my blog
  • entropicgoatentropicgoat Registered User
    edited August 2010
    When you started using backgrounds and textures you grabbed my attention.

    But this is the panel that won me over completely. I thought I had seen enough cartoon pandas, but as it turns out I had room in my heart for one more.

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  • rfilyawrfilyaw Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Mabelma wrote: »
    Hehe, I like this one a lot. Great work. B&W seems to be best.

    Thank you, then black & white it is!
    When you started using backgrounds and textures you grabbed my attention.

    But this is the panel that won me over completely. I thought I had seen enough cartoon pandas, but as it turns out I had room in my heart for one more.

    Haha, how kind! And thank you for letting me know what grabbed your attention. Look forward to lots more of Xiong (Sorry, never said her name in comic, but indeed, the panda's name is Xiong [Pronounced like Shawn.] Terribly cliche in China, but still somewhat fresh in the west. :D)

    Edit: Xiong, not Xiao

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  • rfilyawrfilyaw Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
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    So very tired. Had this one nearly finished, then the file corrupted. Had to start over on a mediocre joke.

    Edit: So, I haven't slept yet, but what the hell? That's a terrible joke.

    Edit 2: Well, this one isn't so bad. I was just really tired. Sorry, haha. It's not good to badmouth your own work.

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    "Daddy knows what he needs, and it's Fart Patrol." - Justin McElroy
  • The_Glad_HatterThe_Glad_Hatter Rogue Jpeg Jockey Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    rfilyaw wrote: »
    Back in black! (and white)
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    Pretty good comic.
    And as much as i love bendy arms and legs; the first panel just aint cutting it. (for me..). I find that having a leg bend forwards usually is a bit too much of a break in reality for it to be easily "read".

    The colours you suggested are allright, but i think i prefer the BW. Speaks out a bit more than the bland pastelly colours i think.

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  • rfilyawrfilyaw Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Thank you for your input, Hatter. I'll keep that in mind for future comics.

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    "Daddy knows what he needs, and it's Fart Patrol." - Justin McElroy
  • rfilyawrfilyaw Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    *sigh* I really feel like I'm just shitting them out at this point. Hopefully they get better soon.

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    You know what it is? My pacing is all off. I'm trying to save work by cutting down on my frames and I'm ruining myself that way. Lesson learned. Next on Whomp!, something that doesn't suck.

    Edit: Nah, this one's not so bad. I shouldn't be so hard on myself for doing a tamer comic once in a while.

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    "Daddy knows what he needs, and it's Fart Patrol." - Justin McElroy
  • Stupid Mr Whoopsie NameStupid Mr Whoopsie Name Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited September 2010
    rfilyaw wrote: »
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    So very tired. Had this one nearly finished, then the file corrupted. Had to start over on a mediocre joke.

    Edit: So, I haven't slept yet, but what the hell? That's a terrible joke.

    Whatever, I really enjoyed this one--especially the gender-ambiguous first time author!

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  • rfilyawrfilyaw Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    rfilyaw wrote: »
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    So very tired. Had this one nearly finished, then the file corrupted. Had to start over on a mediocre joke.

    Edit: So, I haven't slept yet, but what the hell? That's a terrible joke.

    Whatever, I really enjoyed this one--especially the gender-ambiguous first time author!

    Hahaha, you know what, that wasn't intentional, but that's awesome. I love that he is gender-ambiguous. I was really tired and crotchety when I wrote all that, but it really was kind of funny. Monday's strip is gonna be badass though. I'll post here when it goes live on my site.

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    "Daddy knows what he needs, and it's Fart Patrol." - Justin McElroy
  • Stupid Mr Whoopsie NameStupid Mr Whoopsie Name Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited September 2010
    Seriously, the smile in that last panel cracks me up every time. Every damned time. That's got to count for something, right?

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  • rfilyawrfilyaw Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Seriously, the smile in that last panel cracks me up every time. Every damned time. That's got to count for something, right?

    It counts for everything, my friend. :D

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  • rfilyawrfilyaw Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Ahh, I just can't wait! My regular readers will get it Monday, but I just gotta give it to you today.

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    I'm kinda new to the whole 'Fair use' thing. I'm not trying to capitalize on anyone's properties, but do you think any of this would bite me on the ass? I mean I know all these guys are super cool, but I don't want to step on any toes.

    Edit: Also, I didn't trace anything. All eyeballed. Bleh.

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    "Daddy knows what he needs, and it's Fart Patrol." - Justin McElroy
  • Rich_macabreRich_macabre Registered User
    edited September 2010
    lol that last comic made me laugh pretty hard at work which got too much attn lol.
    great work!

  • rfilyawrfilyaw Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    lol that last comic made me laugh pretty hard at work which got too much attn lol.
    great work!

    Haha, thank you Rich. It made me laugh really hard too. I really enjoyed every moment of making this one,

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    "Daddy knows what he needs, and it's Fart Patrol." - Justin McElroy
  • MabelmaMabelma Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Hehe, that last strip is one of my favorites. Keep up the great work. My only complain (not a complain really) where are the StarTrek fans? Every NerdCon need StarTrek fans.

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  • rfilyawrfilyaw Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Mabelma wrote: »
    Hehe, that last strip is one of my favorites. Keep up the great work. My only complain (not a complain really) where are the StarTrek fans? Every NerdCon need StarTrek fans.

    An unfortunate scheduling mishap resulted in a clash with the also-popular "DweebCon" which takes place on the opposite coast, whose keynote speaker is none other than the guy who played the adult son of Jean Luc Picard in his imaginary life in the episode "Inner Light." You couldn't keep the Trekkies away from that gem.

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  • rfilyawrfilyaw Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
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    lil pre-wednesday for my buddy pals.

    So, I've been trying to figure out how to make my art more clear and attractive. Looking at Octopus Pie, there's never any confusion or eye strain in how she does her stuff. Gonna start working in greys no greater than 20% and reduce my line weight a bit, see if that helps.

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    "Daddy knows what he needs, and it's Fart Patrol." - Justin McElroy
  • MakunouchiMakunouchi Registered User
    edited September 2010
    His facial expression in the mirror with "Oh, right. The mole." is priceless :D

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