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Door-step Proseletizing

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  • Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. 5386-8443-8937Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Sipex wrote: »
    Sipex wrote: »
    Lanlaorn wrote: »
    Sipex wrote: »
    Wait, are you saying Catholics aren't Christian?

    They are? I thought Christian dictated that you follow Christ.

    Catholics follow mary and god.

    What the fuck?

    You could correct me if I'm wrong here, it would help a lot more.

    Christians: Follow Christ as their Messiah. Have several different sects, etc.

    Catholics: Follow Mary, God and the Holy Ghost (holy trinity). Have seperate schools so they can teach religion. Also has nuns and follows the Pope.

    Mary and the Saints are more prevelant in Catholicism and they do in general spend a little less time talking about Jesus than American style Protestants do, but to say they don't follow him is incorrect.

    The cross is the symbol of the Church after all.

    See post above.

    Where does he sit in the heiarchy then? I'm honestly curious. Do catholics actually pray to Jesus like the Christians do?

    Yes and at the top, in the trinity. The confusion probably stems from the way Catholics emphasize the trinity part where as protestants tend to ignore a 1/3 of the trinity, and separate Jesus and God out some more.

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  • SipexSipex Registered User
    edited September 2010
    Oh hey, the more you know.

    Still, Christians don't follow the pope so you'd still need someone from their end to approve any bible changes.

    Or they can go the Mormon route and "Find some lost books"

    Horseshoe wrote:
    I've got good news and bad news about 6th level, That Guy. The good news is that Forbiddance spell allows you to prevent enemies different alignment from entering a consecrated area, which is actually useful! The bad news is that the only other new sixth level spell makes lunch for everybody. Guess which one the party is going to expect you to cast.
  • LanlaornLanlaorn Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Sipex wrote: »
    Lanlaorn wrote: »
    Sipex wrote: »
    Wait, are you saying Catholics aren't Christian?

    They are? I thought Christian dictated that you follow Christ.

    Catholics follow mary and god.

    What the fuck?

    You could correct me if I'm wrong here, it would help a lot more.

    Christians: Follow Christ as their Messiah. Have several different sects, etc.

    Catholics: Follow Mary, God and the Holy Ghost (holy trinity). Have seperate schools so they can teach religion. Also has nuns and follows the Pope.

    Well this is simple stuff that I imagine would be common knowledge or a quick wikpedia paragraph away but:

    No, the Holy Trinity is Jesus, God and the Holy Spirit. Jesus is God. Christ is the Messiah for all Christians. Mary is a saint and you can pray to her asking her to pray for you just like any other saint. Most Prostetant sects do not have saints so Mary becomes less important.

  • Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. 5386-8443-8937Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Sipex wrote: »
    Oh hey, the more you know.

    Still, Christians don't follow the pope so you'd still need someone from their end to approve any bible changes.

    Or they can go the Mormon route and "Find some lost books"

    Mormons can't even find some fucking solid gold plates.

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  • oldsakoldsak Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Sipex wrote: »

    Christians: Follow Christ as their Messiah. Have several different sects, etc.

    Catholics: Follow Mary, God and the Holy Ghost (holy trinity). Have seperate schools so they can teach religion. Also has nuns and follows the Pope.

    This is full of lulz

    Catholics:

    Trinity is the God the Father (old testament God), Jesus, and Holy Spirit.

    Believe Jesus is the Messiah and claim to follow his teachings.

    They revere Mary and a number of other saints for being awesome people.

    Has a number of religious orders (not just nuns).

    Pope is in charge of the whole thing, and is seen as Jesus's go to guy on earth.

    Christians:

    Includes anyone who follows the teachings of Jesus.

    covers all the Protestant sects, Catholics, Anglicans, Greek Orthodox, etc

    As such their beliefs vary on almost every point except that they follow the teachings of Jesus

  • SipexSipex Registered User
    edited September 2010
    Sipex wrote: »
    Oh hey, the more you know.

    Still, Christians don't follow the pope so you'd still need someone from their end to approve any bible changes.

    Or they can go the Mormon route and "Find some lost books"

    Mormons can't even find some fucking solid gold plates.

    It's another part of the religion that really just makes me o_O

    Some apparently were stolen (understandable if true, solid gold plates after all) but the rest were apparently hidden again...forever...or something.

    It's really hard to swallow.

    Horseshoe wrote:
    I've got good news and bad news about 6th level, That Guy. The good news is that Forbiddance spell allows you to prevent enemies different alignment from entering a consecrated area, which is actually useful! The bad news is that the only other new sixth level spell makes lunch for everybody. Guess which one the party is going to expect you to cast.
  • Edith_Bagot-DixEdith_Bagot-Dix Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Sipex wrote: »
    Lanlaorn wrote: »
    Sipex wrote: »
    Wait, are you saying Catholics aren't Christian?

    They are? I thought Christian dictated that you follow Christ.

    Catholics follow mary and god.

    What the fuck?

    You could correct me if I'm wrong here, it would help a lot more.

    Christians: Follow Christ as their Messiah. Have several different sects, etc.

    Catholics: Follow Mary, God and the Holy Ghost (holy trinity). Have seperate schools so they can teach religion. Also has nuns and follows the Pope.

    The Holy Trinity is God the Father, Jesus (God the Son) and the Holy Spirit.

    Seriously, do you think Martin Luther just came up with the idea that Jesus Christ is the Messiah in 1517?

    The whole "Catholics aren't real Christians" thing is heavily rooted in several centuries of Catholic-Protestant conflict. This is why you probably don't hear a lot of "oh and the Orthodox aren't real Christians either" as an addendum to the Catholic thing.

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  • SipexSipex Registered User
    edited September 2010
    oldsak wrote: »
    Sipex wrote: »

    Christians: Follow Christ as their Messiah. Have several different sects, etc.

    Catholics: Follow Mary, God and the Holy Ghost (holy trinity). Have seperate schools so they can teach religion. Also has nuns and follows the Pope.

    This is full of lulz

    Catholics:

    Trinity is the God the Father (old testament God), Jesus, and Holy Spirit.

    Believe Jesus is the Messiah and claim to follow his teachings.

    They revere Mary and a number of other saints for being awesome people.

    Has a number of religious orders (not just nuns).

    Pope is in charge of the whole thing, and is seen as Jesus's go to guy on earth.

    Christians:

    Includes anyone who follows the teachings of Jesus.

    covers all the Protestant sects, Catholics, Anglicans, Greek Orthodox, etc

    As such their beliefs vary on almost every point except that they follow the teachings of Jesus

    Ah, whenever someone refers to Christians they usually mean Protestents. Catholics usually get a seperate mention due to their size and influence (and difference of structure too).

    Also, if you like I can follow you around until you mess up then mock you as well. I mean, if you're going to be like that and all.

    Horseshoe wrote:
    I've got good news and bad news about 6th level, That Guy. The good news is that Forbiddance spell allows you to prevent enemies different alignment from entering a consecrated area, which is actually useful! The bad news is that the only other new sixth level spell makes lunch for everybody. Guess which one the party is going to expect you to cast.
  • Edith_Bagot-DixEdith_Bagot-Dix Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Sipex wrote: »
    Oh hey, the more you know.

    Still, Christians don't follow the pope so you'd still need someone from their end to approve any bible changes.

    Or they can go the Mormon route and "Find some lost books"

    Mormons can't even find some fucking solid gold plates.

    Well, they're always in the last place you look.

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  • Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. 5386-8443-8937Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Be nice guys, Catholic dogma can get hard to sort out if you've never been part of it.

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  • Edith_Bagot-DixEdith_Bagot-Dix Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Be nice guys, Catholic dogma can get hard to sort out if you've never been part of it.

    It's hard to sort out if you have been part of it.

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  • lu tzelu tze Registered User
    edited September 2010
    To be fair those were pretty fucking glaring errors.

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  • nstfnstf __BANNED USERS
    edited September 2010
    Sipex wrote: »
    Oh hey, the more you know.

    Still, Christians don't follow the pope so you'd still need someone from their end to approve any bible changes.

    Or they can go the Mormon route and "Find some lost books"

    Mormons can't even find some fucking solid gold plates.

    Well, they're always in the last place you look.

    When they find this place I'd like to get my socks, spare keys, and condoms back. I thought the gnomes took it.

  • Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. 5386-8443-8937Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Be nice guys, Catholic dogma can get hard to sort out if you've never been part of it.

    It's hard to sort out if you have been part of it.

    As I was, nuns in the family even.

    I don't talk about my religious views at thanksgiving so much anymore.

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  • oldsakoldsak Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Sipex wrote: »
    Also, if you like I can follow you around until you mess up then mock you as well. I mean, if you're going to be like that and all.

    That would actually be pretty awesome. I could rest assured that at least one person had read my posts.

  • Edith_Bagot-DixEdith_Bagot-Dix Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Be nice guys, Catholic dogma can get hard to sort out if you've never been part of it.

    It's hard to sort out if you have been part of it.

    As I was, nuns in the family even.

    I don't talk about my religious views at thanksgiving so much anymore.

    I hear you. My paternal grandfather had nine brothers and three sisters. Seven priests, three nuns.

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  • LanlaornLanlaorn Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Sipex wrote: »
    Oh hey, the more you know.

    Still, Christians don't follow the pope so you'd still need someone from their end to approve any bible changes.

    Or they can go the Mormon route and "Find some lost books"

    Look, there's no need to read the Bible literally. The Old Testament is particularly heavy into allegory and "civil laws are religion".

    There's no need for a Pope or Joseph Smith type to justify this, Jesus Christ himself repeatedly breaks the laws of the Old Testament, and tells people to get over it. nstf earlier used an example of a man either stones his adulteress wife or he isn't a Christian. Jesus himself stopped a stoning in progress for crying out loud! "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone" sound familiar?

    Jesus basically overwrote all the bullshit in the Old Testament with "treat others as you would have them treat you" and THAT is the standard a Christian should live by and I dare anyone to say there's something wrong with that.

  • SipexSipex Registered User
    edited September 2010
    oldsak wrote: »
    Sipex wrote: »
    Also, if you like I can follow you around until you mess up then mock you as well. I mean, if you're going to be like that and all.

    That would actually be pretty awesome. I could rest assured that at least one person had read my posts.

    Touche.

    I forgive you then, that was a good post.

    Horseshoe wrote:
    I've got good news and bad news about 6th level, That Guy. The good news is that Forbiddance spell allows you to prevent enemies different alignment from entering a consecrated area, which is actually useful! The bad news is that the only other new sixth level spell makes lunch for everybody. Guess which one the party is going to expect you to cast.
  • NuckerNucker Registered User
    edited September 2010
    Point being...

    If someone comes to your door and says, "Would you like to know more about (x religion)?" they are not actually saying, "Would you like to know more about how to hate women and gay people and how to sodomize young children?"

    And they are not hypocritical when they tell you they believe in a certain religion and do not support heinous acts associated with people from within that religion. Even if those acts are explicitly sanctioned in the holy texts of said religion, the person can still be truthful and say, "I do not believe this way and I wish it weren't sanctioned."

  • SipexSipex Registered User
    edited September 2010
    Nucker wrote: »
    Point being...

    If someone comes to your door and says, "Would you like to know more about (x religion)?" they are not actually saying, "Would you like to know more about how to hate women and gay people and how to sodomize young children?"

    And they are not hypocritical when they tell you they believe in a certain religion and do not support heinous acts associated with people from within that religion. Even if those acts are explicitly sanctioned in the holy texts of said religion, the person can still be truthful and say, "I do not believe this way and I wish it weren't sanctioned."

    I agree with this even though it'll probably get flamed to hell.

    Now I know why religion isn't a liked topic around here.

    Horseshoe wrote:
    I've got good news and bad news about 6th level, That Guy. The good news is that Forbiddance spell allows you to prevent enemies different alignment from entering a consecrated area, which is actually useful! The bad news is that the only other new sixth level spell makes lunch for everybody. Guess which one the party is going to expect you to cast.
  • LanlaornLanlaorn Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Sipex wrote: »
    Nucker wrote: »
    Point being...

    If someone comes to your door and says, "Would you like to know more about (x religion)?" they are not actually saying, "Would you like to know more about how to hate women and gay people and how to sodomize young children?"

    And they are not hypocritical when they tell you they believe in a certain religion and do not support heinous acts associated with people from within that religion. Even if those acts are explicitly sanctioned in the holy texts of said religion, the person can still be truthful and say, "I do not believe this way and I wish it weren't sanctioned."

    I agree with this even though it'll probably get flamed to hell.

    Now I know why religion isn't a liked topic around here.

    Because the atheists do the most annoying proseletizing?

    Every single religion thread is just full of such vicious, insulting "arguments" that it's about as useful as a nazi rally.

  • SipexSipex Registered User
    edited September 2010
    It's my first time being on the other side of the fence. The last time I participated in a religious arguement I was 100% against it and my arguements were such bullshit. It's been a while (years) so it's kind of shocking now that my viewpoint has adjusted.

    Horseshoe wrote:
    I've got good news and bad news about 6th level, That Guy. The good news is that Forbiddance spell allows you to prevent enemies different alignment from entering a consecrated area, which is actually useful! The bad news is that the only other new sixth level spell makes lunch for everybody. Guess which one the party is going to expect you to cast.
  • Captain CarrotCaptain Carrot Harrisonburg, VARegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Lanlaorn wrote: »
    Sipex wrote: »
    Nucker wrote: »
    Point being...

    If someone comes to your door and says, "Would you like to know more about (x religion)?" they are not actually saying, "Would you like to know more about how to hate women and gay people and how to sodomize young children?"

    And they are not hypocritical when they tell you they believe in a certain religion and do not support heinous acts associated with people from within that religion. Even if those acts are explicitly sanctioned in the holy texts of said religion, the person can still be truthful and say, "I do not believe this way and I wish it weren't sanctioned."

    I agree with this even though it'll probably get flamed to hell.

    Now I know why religion isn't a liked topic around here.

    Because the atheists do the most annoying proseletizing?

    Every single religion thread is just full of such vicious, insulting "arguments" that it's about as useful as a nazi rally.
    And yet, you'll never find two earnest young atheists on your doorstep Sunday morning eager to tell you about how your religion is wrong.

  • SipexSipex Registered User
    edited September 2010
    Lanlaorn wrote: »
    Sipex wrote: »
    Nucker wrote: »
    Point being...

    If someone comes to your door and says, "Would you like to know more about (x religion)?" they are not actually saying, "Would you like to know more about how to hate women and gay people and how to sodomize young children?"

    And they are not hypocritical when they tell you they believe in a certain religion and do not support heinous acts associated with people from within that religion. Even if those acts are explicitly sanctioned in the holy texts of said religion, the person can still be truthful and say, "I do not believe this way and I wish it weren't sanctioned."

    I agree with this even though it'll probably get flamed to hell.

    Now I know why religion isn't a liked topic around here.

    Because the atheists do the most annoying proseletizing?

    Every single religion thread is just full of such vicious, insulting "arguments" that it's about as useful as a nazi rally.
    And yet, you'll never find two earnest young atheists on your doorstep Sunday morning eager to tell you about how your religion is wrong.

    If we're stereotyping then to be fair, they're usually waiting until you bring it up, probably amongst friends so they can rant with backup about it instead.

    Horseshoe wrote:
    I've got good news and bad news about 6th level, That Guy. The good news is that Forbiddance spell allows you to prevent enemies different alignment from entering a consecrated area, which is actually useful! The bad news is that the only other new sixth level spell makes lunch for everybody. Guess which one the party is going to expect you to cast.
  • sidhaethesidhaethe Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Sipex wrote: »
    Lanlaorn wrote: »
    Sipex wrote: »
    Nucker wrote: »
    Point being...

    If someone comes to your door and says, "Would you like to know more about (x religion)?" they are not actually saying, "Would you like to know more about how to hate women and gay people and how to sodomize young children?"

    And they are not hypocritical when they tell you they believe in a certain religion and do not support heinous acts associated with people from within that religion. Even if those acts are explicitly sanctioned in the holy texts of said religion, the person can still be truthful and say, "I do not believe this way and I wish it weren't sanctioned."

    I agree with this even though it'll probably get flamed to hell.

    Now I know why religion isn't a liked topic around here.

    Because the atheists do the most annoying proseletizing?

    Every single religion thread is just full of such vicious, insulting "arguments" that it's about as useful as a nazi rally.
    And yet, you'll never find two earnest young atheists on your doorstep Sunday morning eager to tell you about how your religion is wrong.

    If we're stereotyping then to be fair, they're usually waiting until you bring it up, probably amongst friends so they can rant with backup about it instead.

    And if we're still being fair, atheists don't tend to bring up their atheism until challenged by someone bringing up religion. It just doesn't define us or our daily activities.

  • Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. 5386-8443-8937Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    To be fair, strawberry is the best flavor of jam.

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  • SipexSipex Registered User
    edited September 2010
    sidhaethe wrote: »
    Sipex wrote: »
    Lanlaorn wrote: »
    Sipex wrote: »
    Nucker wrote: »
    Point being...

    If someone comes to your door and says, "Would you like to know more about (x religion)?" they are not actually saying, "Would you like to know more about how to hate women and gay people and how to sodomize young children?"

    And they are not hypocritical when they tell you they believe in a certain religion and do not support heinous acts associated with people from within that religion. Even if those acts are explicitly sanctioned in the holy texts of said religion, the person can still be truthful and say, "I do not believe this way and I wish it weren't sanctioned."

    I agree with this even though it'll probably get flamed to hell.

    Now I know why religion isn't a liked topic around here.

    Because the atheists do the most annoying proseletizing?

    Every single religion thread is just full of such vicious, insulting "arguments" that it's about as useful as a nazi rally.
    And yet, you'll never find two earnest young atheists on your doorstep Sunday morning eager to tell you about how your religion is wrong.

    If we're stereotyping then to be fair, they're usually waiting until you bring it up, probably amongst friends so they can rant with backup about it instead.

    And if we're still being fair, atheists don't tend to bring up their atheism until challenged by someone bringing up religion. It just doesn't define us or our daily activities.

    Depends on the person.

    Each religion will have people who are content to tell you that you're wrong and you'll burn in hell (or whatever they believe in) along with members who will keep to themselves and leave you be.

    Just as Athiests have people like this too.

    Mind, religions send their opinionated to your door while Athiests tend to stay on the internet and use it as their outlet.

    Where is this going again?

    Horseshoe wrote:
    I've got good news and bad news about 6th level, That Guy. The good news is that Forbiddance spell allows you to prevent enemies different alignment from entering a consecrated area, which is actually useful! The bad news is that the only other new sixth level spell makes lunch for everybody. Guess which one the party is going to expect you to cast.
  • Captain CarrotCaptain Carrot Harrisonburg, VARegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    You can avoid people on the internet. It's harder to do so when they're right outside your door. Thus, the latter is in fact more annoying.

  • SipexSipex Registered User
    edited September 2010
    You can avoid people on the internet. It's harder to do so when they're right outside your door. Thus, the latter is in fact more annoying.

    Are you just making the point that it's more annoying or are you appending something to this?

    Like: It's more annoying so therefore...

    I mean, if you're just arguing that it's annoying then I don't disagree here.

    Horseshoe wrote:
    I've got good news and bad news about 6th level, That Guy. The good news is that Forbiddance spell allows you to prevent enemies different alignment from entering a consecrated area, which is actually useful! The bad news is that the only other new sixth level spell makes lunch for everybody. Guess which one the party is going to expect you to cast.
  • GungHoGungHo Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Sipex wrote: »
    Oh hey, the more you know.

    Still, Christians don't follow the pope so you'd still need someone from their end to approve any bible changes.

    Or they can go the Mormon route and "Find some lost books"

    Mormons can't even find some fucking solid gold plates.

    Well, they're always in the last place you look.

    Bullshit. They found them in Xak Tsaroth in middle of the first book.

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  • Captain CarrotCaptain Carrot Harrisonburg, VARegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Sipex wrote: »
    You can avoid people on the internet. It's harder to do so when they're right outside your door. Thus, the latter is in fact more annoying.

    Are you just making the point that it's more annoying or are you appending something to this?

    Like: It's more annoying so therefore...

    I mean, if you're just arguing that it's annoying then I don't disagree here.

    Lanlaorn said atheists are the more annoying proselytizers. I am disputing that.

  • SipexSipex Registered User
    edited September 2010
    Sipex wrote: »
    You can avoid people on the internet. It's harder to do so when they're right outside your door. Thus, the latter is in fact more annoying.

    Are you just making the point that it's more annoying or are you appending something to this?

    Like: It's more annoying so therefore...

    I mean, if you're just arguing that it's annoying then I don't disagree here.

    Lanlaorn said atheists are the more annoying proselytizers. I am disputing that.

    Ah.

    I ninjaed your post so it was a bit disjointed.

    You're right, on Lan's scale they're both even (as they both have insistant and pigheaded members who will scream "YOU'RE WRONG!" alongside reserved and/or respectful members) but you include door-to-door and religion wins, even by a bit.

    Horseshoe wrote:
    I've got good news and bad news about 6th level, That Guy. The good news is that Forbiddance spell allows you to prevent enemies different alignment from entering a consecrated area, which is actually useful! The bad news is that the only other new sixth level spell makes lunch for everybody. Guess which one the party is going to expect you to cast.
  • Edith_Bagot-DixEdith_Bagot-Dix Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    GungHo wrote: »
    Sipex wrote: »
    Oh hey, the more you know.

    Still, Christians don't follow the pope so you'd still need someone from their end to approve any bible changes.

    Or they can go the Mormon route and "Find some lost books"

    Mormons can't even find some fucking solid gold plates.

    Well, they're always in the last place you look.

    Bullshit. They found them in Xak Tsaroth in middle of the first book.

    Yeah, but did they look for them anywhere else after that? :)

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  • Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. 5386-8443-8937Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    GungHo wrote: »
    Sipex wrote: »
    Oh hey, the more you know.

    Still, Christians don't follow the pope so you'd still need someone from their end to approve any bible changes.

    Or they can go the Mormon route and "Find some lost books"

    Mormons can't even find some fucking solid gold plates.

    Well, they're always in the last place you look.

    Bullshit. They found them in Xak Tsaroth in middle of the first book.

    Yeah, but did they look for them anywhere else after that? :)

    And more importantly, if the Mormon church buys a large amount of stock in the adult entertainment business will sex no longer be taboo, it seemed to work with Coke and caffeine.

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  • bwaniebwanie Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    bwanie wrote: »
    bwanie wrote: »
    nobody's drawing lines, we were just ridiculing an horrendously warped idea of theocratic adherance

    Yes you seem quite afraid to draw any lines, but you're quick to jump all over someone who suggests that someone who doesn't act like a proper muslim may, in fact, just maybe, be a full of shit person claiming to be a muslim.

    As if there has never been any instances of foolish people claiming to be something they really aren't. Happens all the time.

    what? no.

    i put forward the notion, that claiming a devout follower of a religion needs to adhere to his holy scriptures word for word, is ridiculous.

    That's fine.

    I am putting forward the notion, that merely claiming to be a particular religion doesn't make that so.

    which is entirely true, but not what we were discussing. so yay for you?

  • DoctorArchDoctorArch Curmudgeon Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    GungHo wrote: »
    Sipex wrote: »
    Oh hey, the more you know.

    Still, Christians don't follow the pope so you'd still need someone from their end to approve any bible changes.

    Or they can go the Mormon route and "Find some lost books"

    Mormons can't even find some fucking solid gold plates.

    Well, they're always in the last place you look.

    Bullshit. They found them in Xak Tsaroth in middle of the first book.

    Yeah, but did they look for them anywhere else after that? :)

    And more importantly, if the Mormon church buys a large amount of stock in the adult entertainment business will sex no longer be taboo, it seemed to work with Coke and caffeine.

    Old rumor, but rumor nonetheless. The Mormon church has produced enough rope to hang themselves with it several times over, and when these come up, apologists point and say "See! See! They're being ridiculous!" and gloss over the million other bullshit things the church believes in. The truth is enough, so there is literally no need to even exaggerate, let alone make things up.

    RE: Lumping people in with the worst factors of a religion.

    I'd argue that it appears to be a sliding scale based on the degree of control a religious sect demands from its adherents, the amount of time and money that sect demands, and the relative sanity of its positions. If you fall into the extreme side of all three variables, you're likely going to be lumped in with the worst that religion has to offer.

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  • bwaniebwanie Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    let's turn this around:

    there's like, these really rich islamic guys who marry and divorce women on a boat or a plane and fuck them in between, arguing that by doing this they are adhering to the koran.

    technically, they are, but any omniscient being would clearly see through this bullshit. so how is it possible they deem their own deity so stupid that he has to play by these rules?

    are they truer believers than people who follow the spirit of the book, rather then the letter? Even if they do so with pure intentions ?

  • emnmnmeemnmnme Heard about this on conservative radio:Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    King Solomon had 800 wives before he died.

    I don't even know 800 people, let alone 800 ladies.

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  • Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. 5386-8443-8937Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    emnmnme wrote: »
    King Solomon had 800 wives before he died.

    I don't even know 800 people, let alone 800 ladies.

    I think it was like shopping. He'd just go around and get the ones he wanted.

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  • KalTorakKalTorak Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    GungHo wrote: »
    Sipex wrote: »
    Oh hey, the more you know.

    Still, Christians don't follow the pope so you'd still need someone from their end to approve any bible changes.

    Or they can go the Mormon route and "Find some lost books"

    Mormons can't even find some fucking solid gold plates.

    Well, they're always in the last place you look.

    Bullshit. They found them in Xak Tsaroth in middle of the first book.

    Having a gigantic black dragon living underground guarding their holy shit would make Mormonism quite a bit more appealing.

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