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Creatine or something
y2jake215
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relevant place to ask -
the only supplements i take are a protein "shake" of a scoop of protein powder in water, with a spoonful of creatine after i work out. i'm fairly sure the protein is good, you need protein after workouts. but i can't get a straight answer on the creatine. actually doing anything? i've heard it's purely aesthetic but i can't say i mind that if it in fact does do what it's supposed to. anyone know more about it?
the only supplements i take are a protein "shake" of a scoop of protein powder in water, with a spoonful of creatine after i work out. i'm fairly sure the protein is good, you need protein after workouts. but i can't get a straight answer on the creatine. actually doing anything? i've heard it's purely aesthetic but i can't say i mind that if it in fact does do what it's supposed to. anyone know more about it?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creatine#Use_as_food_supplement
Last paragraph.
I'm actually on a creatine cycle right now, so if you have any questions other than what Bowen's link answers I'd be happy to try and answer them
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Wow. I've never ever heard that before.
If faith is just a silent tribute, mine is just a desperate act.
sure! well, i usually just have a spoonful in my gross protein/water mixture, and a spoonful in some water on days when i don't work out. i know you're supposed to cycle, but i have seen so much contradictory information on the subject i never really chose anything. i just do that for a while, missing days often enough, then take a week or so off every whenever-i-feel-like-it. it'd be great to hear your routine, so i can try and emulate it
edit: looks like i'm doing the "3-10 g for 2-3 months with no loading-phase" variety. not sure the benefits of one vs the other. also, do you take yours pre or post workout?
It almost seems like the link on wikipedia has some confusion between Creatine and Creatinine. Not knowing too much about Creatine so it seemed confusing and I had to double check if I had typed that in right.
The measurements in that study are uMol/L. Milk is not an effective source of creatine.
Lucky for you there's a whole thread for yakking about strength training http://forums.penny-arcade.com/showthread.php?t=128516
If you want to see better gains you have to be more disciplined about it.
oh, niice. i remember the old workout H/A thread but i lost track of it, and i never much go to SE++ so i had no idea, thanks for bringing that to my attention
sorry for threadjacking a bit, i think they were meant for you as i never really mentioned my diet in detail
edit: good point adytum, do that i shall.
I'd suggest starting a new thread as we've already cluttered this one up enough. :?
Or perhaps an overly high intake of protein from soy based sources.
Some medical studies have shown that too much soy based protein can raise estrone and estradiol (estrogen) levels in men.
something else did that dude
seriously that isn't what creatine does.
is he in high school? because that happens to people at that age sometimes.
no no no guy was about 23 I think when it happened
to be fair he was taking a lot of supplements, I thought creatine is what caused it but I guess not. My bad! Anyway, careful with supplements.
All of the studies I've looked at said this was inconclusive at best, since a vast majority of the phytoestrogens are expelled as waste and the body may be unable to process some of them anyway. Generally claims of breast growth accompany anecdotes about soy milk, soy bars and (maybe) soy protein shakes. At which point (why are you a vegetarian?) you're overdepending on one food and it's bound to go bad.
Wikipedia's general summary seems somewhat similar. Soy has a fairly high phytoestrogen density, so you may even want to check on the soy page about it.
I'm pretty sure the idea that soy causes breast growth just came up as a weightlifter equivalent to "vegetarians are sissies." Although casein and whey protein tend to be much more effective, soy's primary goal is the same: providing protein as a macronutrient. Unless you're eating too much soy, you'd have to have some massive genetic inclination towards breast growth, have a hormonal imbalance or be injecting estrogen to be growing your moobs.
But then if you can take whey or casein protein (or better a combined regiment of the two), why are you taking soy with its incomplete amino acid profile and more expense? If you want to spend more, buy some egg-based proteins.