nope. doubles means to use both 1p and 2p together as one controller.
ddr has it, dance maniax has it, keyboard mania has it, taiko drummaster has it, beatmania has it, and dj hero does not have it. really annoyed when "2 turntables and a microphone" did not mean doubles, considering that's how djs work
But...but...isn't what you're describing ONE turntable and a microphone?
Two turntables and a microphone means...that there's 2 people using turntables...and a microphone...?
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nope. doubles means to use both 1p and 2p together as one controller.
ddr has it, dance maniax has it, keyboard mania has it, taiko drummaster has it, beatmania has it, and dj hero does not have it. really annoyed when "2 turntables and a microphone" did not mean doubles, considering that's how djs work
why don't you just dj irl then? if you're going to put that much work into some crappy rhythm game you might as well learn real skills, you know?
lol, "this new Mario game sucks, I can't play it with my feet and a hood over my head. I can play Sonic like that, I can play Megaman like that, I can play Rayman like that, but not this? WORST GAME EVER"
nope. doubles means to use both 1p and 2p together as one controller.
ddr has it, dance maniax has it, keyboard mania has it, taiko drummaster has it, beatmania has it, and dj hero does not have it. really annoyed when "2 turntables and a microphone" did not mean doubles, considering that's how djs work
why don't you just dj irl then? if you're going to put that much work into some crappy rhythm game you might as well learn real skills, you know?
This is such a silly argument for rhythm games.
Firstly, DJ hero and actual DJing and mixing are pretty goddamn different. One is pushing some buttons, fake scratching and a fake crossfading following on screen prompts to pre-made music, the other is actually finding samples, beats and music by yourself trying to combining them to form your own songs/mixes.
Secondly, we're talking about a $150 investment for some fun compared to $700< (Probably, dunno too much about this) to set up if you want to get serious about it.
Also he's asking for something that's been in arcade rhythm games for awhile now. I think I read somewhere that they were thinking of adding that in future installments.
Welp, I think my turntable controller is done with.
When I do a scratch or turn the platter at all it think that a random button is being pressed. This pretty much makes the game unplayable since I can't get more then 2 stars with the multiplier getting killed at each scratch.
Looking on google this is not a uncommon problem with the controllers.
Anyone have any luck getting a controller only off of ebay?
Has anyone tried pressing in the sensor buttons on each turntable side and hooking them both up to one crossfader unit to see if you can override the sensor that way and ghetto dual deck it? I know if you hook it up straight it wont work because of a little button that gets pressed in on the square tab. Also, if your buttons are getting stuck on the turntable, you can strip that bitch apart and recent the button rubber tips. My first turntable unit got sticky buttons and a fucked crossfader. I was able to fix the buttons but with out a reliable crossfader most songs are impossible to play, so I bought the DJ Hero 2 bundle. I had to get it, it had Prodigy and Pitbull....
edit: IIDX is a damn piano simulator, i want a game state side like the other youtube vid.
Has anyone tried pressing in the sensor buttons on each turntable side and hooking them both up to one crossfader unit to see if you can override the sensor that way and ghetto dual deck it? I know if you hook it up straight it wont work because of a little button that gets pressed in on the square tab. Also, if your buttons are getting stuck on the turntable, you can strip that bitch apart and recent the button rubber tips. My first turntable unit got sticky buttons and a fucked crossfader. I was able to fix the buttons but with out a reliable crossfader most songs are impossible to play, so I bought the DJ Hero 2 bundle. I had to get it, it had Prodigy and Pitbull....
edit: IIDX is a damn piano simulator, i want a game state side like the other youtube vid.
I'm quite surprised how easy it is to open up the controller to see all the parts of the record platter. It didn't help with my phantom button press issue though, so we shall see if the controller off ebay will help me at all.
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cj iwakuraThe Rhythm RegentBears The Name FreedomRegistered Userregular
edited October 2010
So I played a demo of this.
Now I am nothing if not biased in favor of Beatmania, but DJ Hero just feels complicated, and not in a good way.
Hard and Expert throw in features that just don't make sense. They're awkward and unintuitive.
Beatmania and Frequency have the difficulty scaling from hell, but at least it's normal progression. Hit more buttons, not do something that's wildly different from anything beneath it.
Also, it makes sense in Harmonix and Bemani games. You're keying notes that are in the song(because you're actually playing it). Not just scratching wildly and hitting key points in the song.
It's the wrong kind of challenge.
Pro: dang if the game ain't pretty.
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GnomeTankWhat the what?Portland, OregonRegistered Userregular
actual DJing is upwards of $875 if you want a good setup
just for the sake of the debate
$875 would be the low end, for really shaky equipment. We're talking very basic direct drive turn tables with no torque and horrible breaking, and a simple two channel mixer.
If you want to really step up to quality equipment, you're looking at some flavor of the Technique SL-1200, at 400+ each. You're looking at another 150-300 just for needles. You're looking at easily 800 for a decent mixer.
My personal setup, which was all new out of the box stuff:
2x Technique SL-1200M3D tables: 450 each (~900)
2x Ortofon Nightclub S stylus: ~300 for the set
1x Allen & Health Xone:92 mixer ~1600
That doesn't include my powered monitors or my Serato Scratch Live setup. Nor does it include the mountains and mountains of old vinyl I have (though these days I've gone almost completely digital thanks to Serato).
tl;dr Real DJ'ing with real vinyl is real expensive. It is also absolutely nothing like playing DJ Hero. As someone who can do the real thing, and is decent enough at DJ Hero, I can promise you that the skill sets don't transfer beyond the most basic of hand movements and perhaps understanding how to crab a fader.
Now I am nothing if not biased in favor of Beatmania, but DJ Hero just feels complicated, and not in a good way.
Hard and Expert throw in features that just don't make sense. They're awkward and unintuitive.
Beatmania and Frequency have the difficulty scaling from hell, but at least it's normal progression. Hit more buttons, not do something that's wildly different from anything beneath it.
Also, it makes sense in Harmonix and Bemani games. You're keying notes that are in the song(because you're actually playing it). Not just scratching wildly and hitting key points in the song.
It's the wrong kind of challenge.
Pro: dang if the game ain't pretty.
Their just different games. beatmania has more emphasis on the keyboard, DJ hero is scratching and crossfading, which makes sense for the mixes they have. DJ hero style controls wouldn't makes sense with Beatmania style music and vice versa, or at least I can't wrap my head head around them working.
Love both styles, though I fucking suck at beatmania much more than DJ hero.
I'd wish they'd make a new beatmania for the PS3. And also for DJ Max Technika and the controller, though that would never happen.
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AthenorBattle Hardened OptimistThe Skies of HiigaraRegistered Userregular
edited November 2010
I got the original DJ Hero for cheap a couple weeks back ($40 seemed a good price), and I'm finding myself easily doing most of hard. So I'm moving onto expert.. and getting trounced.
I just can't seem to get the single-direction scratches. Specifically, the extremely fast ones and the ones that only go in a single direction (4-6 forward scratches, be them over 2-3 seconds or in half a second). I am wondering if I am doing something wrong with my hands.
I know that technically, I need to hold down the button through the entire scratch track. I've also noticed that I can pick up the button for a fraction of a second to reset, but pressing the button that fast doesn't seem to work. I typically hold the platter so that my thumb is on the outside rim, providing most of the force behind moving the sucker, and my fingers hold on for the other point of stability. This doesn't work so well with the blue key (left handed, buttons right, so my ring finger), but I'm trying.
i got this game
i looks like NO ONE on my friends list has...
so who has this and would like to play sometime?
the mixes in this are somehow even better than the last game's, but i had to bump it down to medium to handle the freestyle sections. hard was too chaotic with all that new shit flying at me. medium makes me feel badass, whereas i could rock hard mode in DJH1.
here's hoping i can get the hang of using all the new stuff on the fly.
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But...but...isn't what you're describing ONE turntable and a microphone?
Two turntables and a microphone means...that there's 2 people using turntables...and a microphone...?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rs_c89S4o4U
I assumed he meant he wanted 1 PLAYER and 2 PLAYER to use ONE controller, which I did not understand at all.
But um, wow. That is the craziest thing I've ever seen.
why don't you just dj irl then? if you're going to put that much work into some crappy rhythm game you might as well learn real skills, you know?
This is such a silly argument for rhythm games.
Firstly, DJ hero and actual DJing and mixing are pretty goddamn different. One is pushing some buttons, fake scratching and a fake crossfading following on screen prompts to pre-made music, the other is actually finding samples, beats and music by yourself trying to combining them to form your own songs/mixes.
Secondly, we're talking about a $150 investment for some fun compared to $700< (Probably, dunno too much about this) to set up if you want to get serious about it.
Also he's asking for something that's been in arcade rhythm games for awhile now. I think I read somewhere that they were thinking of adding that in future installments.
When I do a scratch or turn the platter at all it think that a random button is being pressed. This pretty much makes the game unplayable since I can't get more then 2 stars with the multiplier getting killed at each scratch.
Looking on google this is not a uncommon problem with the controllers.
Anyone have any luck getting a controller only off of ebay?
just for the sake of the debate
Replace with genre of choice.
edit:
I wish I could find this arcade game. This guy uploaded several other videos of the game too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibKTbn_z4II
Though it'd probably be easier, just a LOT more awkward. Beatmania has 14 keys and two turntables.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siRTU0JFPxQ
It's a lot more fun, if less realistic, IMO.
Oh, and by the way: the aforementioned 20, November is a beginner's song. :P
edit: IIDX is a damn piano simulator, i want a game state side like the other youtube vid.
Now I am nothing if not biased in favor of Beatmania, but DJ Hero just feels complicated, and not in a good way.
Hard and Expert throw in features that just don't make sense. They're awkward and unintuitive.
Beatmania and Frequency have the difficulty scaling from hell, but at least it's normal progression. Hit more buttons, not do something that's wildly different from anything beneath it.
Also, it makes sense in Harmonix and Bemani games. You're keying notes that are in the song(because you're actually playing it). Not just scratching wildly and hitting key points in the song.
It's the wrong kind of challenge.
Pro: dang if the game ain't pretty.
$875 would be the low end, for really shaky equipment. We're talking very basic direct drive turn tables with no torque and horrible breaking, and a simple two channel mixer.
If you want to really step up to quality equipment, you're looking at some flavor of the Technique SL-1200, at 400+ each. You're looking at another 150-300 just for needles. You're looking at easily 800 for a decent mixer.
My personal setup, which was all new out of the box stuff:
2x Technique SL-1200M3D tables: 450 each (~900)
2x Ortofon Nightclub S stylus: ~300 for the set
1x Allen & Health Xone:92 mixer ~1600
That doesn't include my powered monitors or my Serato Scratch Live setup. Nor does it include the mountains and mountains of old vinyl I have (though these days I've gone almost completely digital thanks to Serato).
tl;dr Real DJ'ing with real vinyl is real expensive. It is also absolutely nothing like playing DJ Hero. As someone who can do the real thing, and is decent enough at DJ Hero, I can promise you that the skill sets don't transfer beyond the most basic of hand movements and perhaps understanding how to crab a fader.
Their just different games. beatmania has more emphasis on the keyboard, DJ hero is scratching and crossfading, which makes sense for the mixes they have. DJ hero style controls wouldn't makes sense with Beatmania style music and vice versa, or at least I can't wrap my head head around them working.
Love both styles, though I fucking suck at beatmania much more than DJ hero.
I'd wish they'd make a new beatmania for the PS3. And also for DJ Max Technika and the controller, though that would never happen.
I just can't seem to get the single-direction scratches. Specifically, the extremely fast ones and the ones that only go in a single direction (4-6 forward scratches, be them over 2-3 seconds or in half a second). I am wondering if I am doing something wrong with my hands.
I know that technically, I need to hold down the button through the entire scratch track. I've also noticed that I can pick up the button for a fraction of a second to reset, but pressing the button that fast doesn't seem to work. I typically hold the platter so that my thumb is on the outside rim, providing most of the force behind moving the sucker, and my fingers hold on for the other point of stability. This doesn't work so well with the blue key (left handed, buttons right, so my ring finger), but I'm trying.
Anyone have any advice?
Does anyone know how to unlock my avatar for Empire mode in DJ Hero 2? I am bored of looking at these chumps.
Thanks
i looks like NO ONE on my friends list has...
so who has this and would like to play sometime?
the mixes in this are somehow even better than the last game's, but i had to bump it down to medium to handle the freestyle sections. hard was too chaotic with all that new shit flying at me. medium makes me feel badass, whereas i could rock hard mode in DJH1.
here's hoping i can get the hang of using all the new stuff on the fly.