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  • Silas BrownSilas Brown Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Cinders wrote: »
    Gooey wrote: »
    Galahad wrote: »
    I have to say, now, as an adult, I don't really have an issue with the pledge.

    It is good to take pride in the place where you live.

    It is unfortunate that overzealousness of the proud sometimes has the opposite effect on the people around them.

    Aint nothin wrong with shoving gold medals in other countries faces


    also USA USA USA is a pretty rad chant

    all other country chants suck in comparison

    Our cool chant doesn't make up for us having a shitty anthem.

    Oh thank God, I'm not the only one who feels this way.

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  • KalkinoKalkino Buttons Londres Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Senjutsu wrote: »
    pledging allegiance to flags seems so archaic

    Less archaic than pledging allegiance to people, which was the old version. Actually, I think Commonwealth citizens sometimes still have to swear loyalty to the Queen. I'm almost certain Governors-General do.

    Depends on the role. I think police and military in NZ still swear a loyalty oath to the Queen. I'm not 100% sure about that

    Freedom for the Northern Isles!
  • SenjutsuSenjutsu fiddy too Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    TIL grindcore is an actual transformer

    Sarksus wrote: »
    I'm gonna get a PhD in incest.
  • CindersCinders You’re either ready to reap this freaky-assed harvest or you’re not. Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Cinders wrote: »
    We should just kill all the kids.

    It's the only way to make everyone happy.
    Easier to kill all the old people, and has the same result.

    Yeah, but have you seen those punk kids?

    All standing on my lawn.

  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    we just saw Subway

    luc besson's Subway, in case there's more of them

    very wierd!

    also very good

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  • SenjutsuSenjutsu fiddy too Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Senjutsu wrote: »
    pledging allegiance to flags seems so archaic

    Less archaic than pledging allegiance to people, which was the old version. Actually, I think Commonwealth citizens sometimes still have to swear loyalty to the Queen. I'm almost certain Governors-General do.

    I mean, like, having students do it every single day

    seems weird

    Sarksus wrote: »
    I'm gonna get a PhD in incest.
  • SheepSheep Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited November 2010
    Daxon wrote: »
    How is a law against hate-speech a bad thing, guys?

    How could it ever be a bad thing?

    It kinda already is. You can't incite violence and you can't harass through speech.

    Can you make an ass of yourself publicly? Absolutely. There's no law against being stupid.

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  • matt has a problemmatt has a problem Six pack on a dick Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Cinders wrote: »
    Cinders wrote: »
    We should just kill all the kids.

    It's the only way to make everyone happy.
    Easier to kill all the old people, and has the same result.

    Yeah, but have you seen those punk kids?

    All standing on my lawn.
    That's just like, your opinion man. Lawns can't be owned.

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    All my fuckin life I lived a normal fuckin life
  • MrMisterMrMister Valuing scholarship above all elseRegistered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Thanatos wrote: »
    So, MrMister, if gay kids had worn shirts calling for the death of straight kids, that would be okay, too?

    It's relevant that the quotes in question are from the bible. Religious speech is specially protected.

  • Silas BrownSilas Brown Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Cinders wrote: »
    Cinders wrote: »
    We should just kill all the kids.

    It's the only way to make everyone happy.
    Easier to kill all the old people, and has the same result.

    Yeah, but have you seen those punk kids?

    All standing on my lawn.
    That's just like, your opinion man. Lawns can't be owned.

    Law of the lawn.

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  • AriviaArivia Registered User
    edited November 2010
    My favourite goregrind song is from Exhumed and I swear it has Yoda on vocals.

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  • SenjutsuSenjutsu fiddy too Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    ARE YOU STILL LOYAL TODAY CITIZEN

    SWEAR TO ME THAT YOU ARE OR FACE THE CONSEQUENCES

    Sarksus wrote: »
    I'm gonna get a PhD in incest.
  • GooeyGooey Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Cinders wrote: »
    Gooey wrote: »
    Galahad wrote: »
    I have to say, now, as an adult, I don't really have an issue with the pledge.

    It is good to take pride in the place where you live.

    It is unfortunate that overzealousness of the proud sometimes has the opposite effect on the people around them.

    Aint nothin wrong with shoving gold medals in other countries faces


    also USA USA USA is a pretty rad chant

    all other country chants suck in comparison

    Our cool chant doesn't make up for us having a shitty anthem.

    dude it is about war and blowing shit up

    better than singing about some old woman with a crown

    or maple syrup and hockey and whatever else the canadians sing aboot

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  • NerdgasmicNerdgasmic __BANNED USERS regular
    edited November 2010
    Senjutsu wrote: »
    TIL grindcore is an actual transformer
    Spoiler:

    senj, I don't if I should be glad that I am not the guy who makes these

    @nealcm @faynor
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  • matt has a problemmatt has a problem Six pack on a dick Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Senjutsu wrote: »
    ARE YOU STILL LOYAL TODAY CITIZEN

    SWEAR TO ME THAT YOU ARE OR FACE THE CONSEQUENCES
    23506b9882f7c787d9cdf7a4db669044.jpg

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    All my fuckin life I lived a normal fuckin life
  • Captain CarrotCaptain Carrot Harrisonburg, VARegistered User regular
    edited November 2010
    MrMister wrote: »
    Thanatos wrote: »
    So, MrMister, if gay kids had worn shirts calling for the death of straight kids, that would be okay, too?

    It's relevant that the quotes in question are from the bible. Religious speech is specially protected.

    To some extent. You can't just break the law and say that your religion demands it.

  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Gooey wrote: »
    Cinders wrote: »
    Gooey wrote: »
    Galahad wrote: »
    I have to say, now, as an adult, I don't really have an issue with the pledge.

    It is good to take pride in the place where you live.

    It is unfortunate that overzealousness of the proud sometimes has the opposite effect on the people around them.

    Aint nothin wrong with shoving gold medals in other countries faces


    also USA USA USA is a pretty rad chant

    all other country chants suck in comparison

    Our cool chant doesn't make up for us having a shitty anthem.

    dude it is about war and blowing shit up

    better than singing about some old woman with a crown

    or maple syrup and hockey and whatever else the canadians sing aboot

    Canada's national anthem.

    "Eh aboot, ehhhhhhh ABOOOOOTTTT HOCKEY MAPLE SYRUP ABOOOOOTTTT!!!!"

  • SenjutsuSenjutsu fiddy too Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    fucku.swf

    Sarksus wrote: »
    I'm gonna get a PhD in incest.
  • SheepSheep Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited November 2010
    Arivia wrote: »
    My favourite goregrind song is from Exhumed and I swear it has Yoda on vocals.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JblFx1aXpeU



    I urge you to check out the lyrics.

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  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    The pledge isn't about taking pride in a country. It is about obedience.

  • LudiousLudious It's hard out here for a conservative bronyRegistered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Senjutsu wrote: »
    ARE YOU STILL LOYAL TODAY CITIZEN

    SWEAR TO ME THAT YOU ARE OR FACE THE CONSEQUENCES

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMTz9nIUkGc

  • CindersCinders You’re either ready to reap this freaky-assed harvest or you’re not. Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Gooey wrote: »
    Cinders wrote: »
    Gooey wrote: »
    Galahad wrote: »
    I have to say, now, as an adult, I don't really have an issue with the pledge.

    It is good to take pride in the place where you live.

    It is unfortunate that overzealousness of the proud sometimes has the opposite effect on the people around them.

    Aint nothin wrong with shoving gold medals in other countries faces


    also USA USA USA is a pretty rad chant

    all other country chants suck in comparison

    Our cool chant doesn't make up for us having a shitty anthem.

    dude it is about war and blowing shit up

    better than singing about some old woman with a crown

    or maple syrup and hockey and whatever else the canadians sing aboot

    It's a bad drinking song with rewritten lyrics.

  • MrMisterMrMister Valuing scholarship above all elseRegistered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Thomamelas wrote: »
    The reasonable requirement doesn't mean that the administrator has to believe violence will happen. Simply that it's more likely to happen. Or that he'll end up with a sufficient enough of a screaming match that class will be disrupted. Is it really that unreasonable to believe that those t-shirts wouldn't be seen as aggressively confrontational given the raised emotional levels? Even Tinker leaves that as an out for school administrators. And we're also debating this as if the students in question are "good" students. For all we know they may not be. If they or one has a history of fighting then it's without question the right call to make.

    The administrator cannot simply believe that violence is more likely than it was before--after all, as in Tinker, any controversial opinion could, theoretically, lead to a fight. It has to be that they believe violence, or comparably significant disruption, has become significantly likely. I doubt that belief is reasonable in this situation, especially given that nothing (which is exactly what I would expect) actually happened on the first day.

  • Aroused BullAroused Bull Registered User
    edited November 2010
    I hate patriotism. Also America.

    Edit: And freedom.

  • Silas BrownSilas Brown Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Senjutsu wrote: »
    ARE YOU STILL LOYAL TODAY CITIZEN

    SWEAR TO ME THAT YOU ARE OR FACE THE CONSEQUENCES

    In my High School you could sit out the pledge quietly, but it made you stand out like a sore thumb and you'd get a lot of shit for it. I was kind of a rebellious teen, so I sat these out. One time a guy tried to lift me out of my set to get me to say the pledge.

    In my elementary school, you had to say both the Pledge of Allegiance and the Christian Pledge. I'm not even sure if the second one was a real thing, or just made up for our school. Let me look it up...

    Ah yes
    I pledge allegiance to the Christian Flag and to the Savior for whose Kingdom it stands. One Savior, crucified, risen, and coming again with life and liberty to all who believe.

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  • HonkHonk Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited November 2010
  • MrMisterMrMister Valuing scholarship above all elseRegistered User regular
    edited November 2010
    MrMister wrote: »
    Thanatos wrote: »
    So, MrMister, if gay kids had worn shirts calling for the death of straight kids, that would be okay, too?

    It's relevant that the quotes in question are from the bible. Religious speech is specially protected.

    To some extent. You can't just break the law and say that your religion demands it.

    It's pretty hard to break the law by speaking your religious beliefs, though. That's kind of the point.

  • SenjutsuSenjutsu fiddy too Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    I loved starship troopers even though it had nothing to do with starship troopers

    Sarksus wrote: »
    I'm gonna get a PhD in incest.
  • JacobkoshJacobkosh Gamble a stamp. I can show you how to be a real man!Super Moderator, Moderator mod
    edited November 2010
    Couscous wrote: »
    The pledge isn't about taking pride in a country. It is about obedience.

    my mind is blown

  • GalahadGalahad Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    *doo doot doot doo Galahad walking down the hall*

    So YA thought YA might like to goooo toooo the shoooow

    *hit elevator button*

    Feeeeel the warm thrill of emotion
    that space cadet glow,
    well, I've got some bad news for you sunshine
    Pink isn't well, he's stayed back in the Hotel
    And they sent us along, as a surrogate band
    We're gonna find out where you fans really staa-ha-haaaaand.

    *elevator dings*

    Are there any queers in the audience tonight, GET THEM UP AGAINST THE WALL

    *Elevator doors open*

    And that one looks jewish, AND THAT ONE's A COON, WHO LET ALL THIS RIFF RAFF INTO THE ROOM!

    *People on the elevator: :x *
    *Galahad: D: *

  • Captain CarrotCaptain Carrot Harrisonburg, VARegistered User regular
    edited November 2010
    In high school I said everything but the "under God" part. And nobody cared, because the entire thing was completely meaningless. Forcing someone to swear loyalty is useless.

  • SheepSheep Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited November 2010
    MrMister wrote: »
    Thomamelas wrote: »
    The reasonable requirement doesn't mean that the administrator has to believe violence will happen. Simply that it's more likely to happen. Or that he'll end up with a sufficient enough of a screaming match that class will be disrupted. Is it really that unreasonable to believe that those t-shirts wouldn't be seen as aggressively confrontational given the raised emotional levels? Even Tinker leaves that as an out for school administrators. And we're also debating this as if the students in question are "good" students. For all we know they may not be. If they or one has a history of fighting then it's without question the right call to make.

    The administrator cannot simply believe that violence is more likely than it was before--after all, as in Tinker, any controversial opinion could, theoretically, lead to a fight. It has to be that they believe violence, or comparably significant disruption, has become significantly likely. I doubt that belief is reasonable in this situation, especially given that nothing (which is exactly what I would expect) actually happened on the first day.

    Children do not have full extension of their rights. This includes speech.

    Regardless of anything happened or would happen, it was in the Principal's authority to do what he had to do.

    From what I understand, he allowed "Gay Pride" and "Straight Pride" shirts. He made the Straight Pride shirts mark out their offensive religious text.

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  • NerdgasmicNerdgasmic __BANNED USERS regular
    edited November 2010
    senj (kind of NSFW)


    profM, this church my grandpa goes to once used the christian pledge

    I don't remember if it used those lyrics, though

    @nealcm @faynor
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  • MrMisterMrMister Valuing scholarship above all elseRegistered User regular
    edited November 2010
    I pledge allegiance to the Christian Flag and to the Savior for whose Kingdom it stands. One Savior, crucified, risen, and coming again with life and liberty to all who believe.

    wtf

    They most definitely cannot do that in public school. Your school sucked balls.

  • Silas BrownSilas Brown Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    What the hell is a coon?

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  • DynagripDynagrip destroy everything you touch Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited November 2010
    What the hell is a coon?

    a racoon or a person of color.

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  • Aroused BullAroused Bull Registered User
    edited November 2010
    Couscous wrote: »
    The pledge isn't about taking pride in a country. It is about obedience.

    Is the pledge actually about anything, really? I always thought it was just a silly custom you guys have, like British people and the Queen, or Australians and institutionalised racism.

  • SenjutsuSenjutsu fiddy too Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Cinders wrote: »
    Gooey wrote: »
    Cinders wrote: »
    Gooey wrote: »
    Galahad wrote: »
    I have to say, now, as an adult, I don't really have an issue with the pledge.

    It is good to take pride in the place where you live.

    It is unfortunate that overzealousness of the proud sometimes has the opposite effect on the people around them.

    Aint nothin wrong with shoving gold medals in other countries faces


    also USA USA USA is a pretty rad chant

    all other country chants suck in comparison

    Our cool chant doesn't make up for us having a shitty anthem.

    dude it is about war and blowing shit up

    better than singing about some old woman with a crown

    or maple syrup and hockey and whatever else the canadians sing aboot

    It's a bad drinking song with rewritten lyrics.

    hell of a hard song to sing when you're drunk, too

    Sarksus wrote: »
    I'm gonna get a PhD in incest.
  • Captain CarrotCaptain Carrot Harrisonburg, VARegistered User regular
    edited November 2010
    MrMister wrote: »
    MrMister wrote: »
    Thanatos wrote: »
    So, MrMister, if gay kids had worn shirts calling for the death of straight kids, that would be okay, too?

    It's relevant that the quotes in question are from the bible. Religious speech is specially protected.

    To some extent. You can't just break the law and say that your religion demands it.

    It's pretty hard to break the law by speaking your religious beliefs, though. That's kind of the point.

    You're still going to get in trouble if you go around saying "Fags must all die!"

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