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  • DocDoc Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited November 2010
    PLASTIC BAGS ARE NOT TOYS

  • ThomamelasThomamelas Bro!Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Thomamelas wrote: »
    japan wrote: »
    Thomamelas wrote: »
    japan wrote: »
    What the heck is up with that grip?

    Going to take a wild guess and suggest it is some kind of weird workaround so that it doesn't count as a "pistol grip".

    That's exactly it.

    Finally, a practical application for rules lawyering.

    Gun laws are fun and strange. An example.

    stringtrick1ev.jpgThat bit of string has some foil on it. Why? Because the ATF declared it a machine gun. The way the law is written in the US, the part that allows for automatic fire is what is actually a machine gun. That way people can't try to swap parts to get around the restrictions on Automatic weapons. So the bit of string has a $200 stamp tax applied to it. Eventually the ATF realized the silliness of the whole situation and corrected the regulations to make a little more sense.
    You can do the same thing by sticking your thumb through the trigger guard and hooking it into a belt loop on your pants.

    It depends. That mechanism requires a single trigger pull. I'm trying to imagine your method and I keep picturing a moving finger, which wouldn't violate it at all.

  • PasserbyePasserbye The Woman Who Is Not Short at The Moonlite All-Nite Diner; a glass box full of bad food and good people.Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    The model took it in good humor.

    BA in Graphic Design with a focus in drawing and digital art.

    Yeah, most people who model for art classes are pretty even tempered.

    So you do the 2-D commercial art stuff, eh? That's pretty cool, a couple of my old college friends did that too.

  • BobCescaBobCesca Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Doc wrote: »
    PLASTIC BAGS ARE NOT TOYS

    kitten licks plastic. We have tried to suggest this is not a good thing, but after 4 years have really given up now. She doesn't eat it or anything, just sits there for ages licking.

  • PasserbyePasserbye The Woman Who Is Not Short at The Moonlite All-Nite Diner; a glass box full of bad food and good people.Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Shivahn wrote: »
    Passerbye wrote: »
    Oh man. Cheese is just lovely. So lovely. The loveliest. <3

    Then it probably was you. <3 cheese.

    If ever you come to Seattle we can go to the different cheese shops and then talk about metal whilst nomming. :)

  • matt has a problemmatt has a problem Six pack on a dick Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Thomamelas wrote: »
    Thomamelas wrote: »
    japan wrote: »
    Thomamelas wrote: »
    japan wrote: »
    What the heck is up with that grip?

    Going to take a wild guess and suggest it is some kind of weird workaround so that it doesn't count as a "pistol grip".

    That's exactly it.

    Finally, a practical application for rules lawyering.

    Gun laws are fun and strange. An example.

    stringtrick1ev.jpgThat bit of string has some foil on it. Why? Because the ATF declared it a machine gun. The way the law is written in the US, the part that allows for automatic fire is what is actually a machine gun. That way people can't try to swap parts to get around the restrictions on Automatic weapons. So the bit of string has a $200 stamp tax applied to it. Eventually the ATF realized the silliness of the whole situation and corrected the regulations to make a little more sense.
    You can do the same thing by sticking your thumb through the trigger guard and hooking it into a belt loop on your pants.

    It depends. That mechanism requires a single trigger pull. I'm trying to imagine your method and I keep picturing a moving finger, which wouldn't violate it at all.
    You use your other hand to pull the rifle forward, keeping your forearm locked. It pulls the trigger against your thumb, fires, gives just enough recoil for the trigger to be released before your other hand pulls the rifle forward, repeating the process. I thought it was called "belt looping", and I'd seen a few youtube videos but I can't find any at the moment.

    :edit: Found it, it's bump firing.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjdBcslW4p8

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    All my fuckin life I lived a normal fuckin life
  • EchoEcho very gravitas Super Moderator, Moderator mod
    edited November 2010
    BobCesca wrote: »
    Doc wrote: »
    PLASTIC BAGS ARE NOT TOYS

    kitten licks plastic. We have tried to suggest this is not a good thing, but after 4 years have really given up now. She doesn't eat it or anything, just sits there for ages licking.

    My cat likes ripping plastic bags to shreds. I'm paranoid about her swallowing the pieces, so I take them away from her.

  • PasserbyePasserbye The Woman Who Is Not Short at The Moonlite All-Nite Diner; a glass box full of bad food and good people.Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    BobCesca wrote: »
    Doc wrote: »
    PLASTIC BAGS ARE NOT TOYS

    kitten licks plastic. We have tried to suggest this is not a good thing, but after 4 years have really given up now. She doesn't eat it or anything, just sits there for ages licking.

    Toby bites hard plastic things, like cell phones with plastic cases, plastic cups, toothbrush handles. Not really a hard bite either, just sort of mouthing it. It's very strange.

  • japanjapan Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    BobCesca wrote: »
    Doc wrote: »
    PLASTIC BAGS ARE NOT TOYS

    kitten licks plastic. We have tried to suggest this is not a good thing, but after 4 years have really given up now. She doesn't eat it or anything, just sits there for ages licking.

    She is also fascinated with sweet wrappers, or small bits of paper (bus tickets, etc) in general.

    People always think she is going for their food, but no, she just wants the shiny crinkly scrap of plastic.

  • ShivahnShivahn Eastern coastal temptressRegistered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Passerbye wrote: »
    Shivahn wrote: »
    Passerbye wrote: »
    Oh man. Cheese is just lovely. So lovely. The loveliest. <3

    Then it probably was you. <3 cheese.

    If ever you come to Seattle we can go to the different cheese shops and then talk about metal whilst nomming. :)

    If I'm ever in the area I'll drop you a line!

    I cannot resist good company or good cheese.

  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Echo wrote: »
    "We have a saying in Hebrew that it's much easier to look for a lost key under the light, than to look for the key where you actually lost it, because it's dark over there. That's exactly how (North American airport security officials) act," Sela said. "You can easily do what we do. You don't have to replace anything. You have to add just a little bit — technology, training. But you have to completely change the way you go about doing airport security. And that is something that the bureaucrats have a problem with. They are very well enclosed in their own concept."

    And rather than fear, he suggests that outrage would be a far more powerful spur to provoking that change.

    "Do you know why Israelis are so calm? We have brutal terror attacks on our civilians and still, life in Israel is pretty good. The reason is that people trust their defence forces, their police, their response teams and the security agencies. They know they're doing a good job. You can't say the same thing about Americans and Canadians. They don't trust anybody," Sela said. "But they say, 'So far, so good'. Then if something happens, all hell breaks loose and you've spent eight hours in an airport. Which is ridiculous. Not justifiable

    "But, what can you do? Americans and Canadians are nice people and they will do anything because they were told to do so and because they don't know any different."

    I dunno if I'd take the isrealies ques on security. At least not harbor security...

  • Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Passerbye wrote: »
    The model took it in good humor.

    BA in Graphic Design with a focus in drawing and digital art.

    Yeah, most people who model for art classes are pretty even tempered.

    So you do the 2-D commercial art stuff, eh? That's pretty cool, a couple of my old college friends did that too.

    I'm a sell out yeah.

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  • emnmnmeemnmnme Heard about this on conservative radio:Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Your pets are all insane!

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  • Regina FongRegina Fong Allons-y, Alonso Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Our cat just liked to climb in things.

    We finally got her a couple kitty cubes, which are these collapsible nylon boxes with holes in 3 sides. It's a nap spot as is, but throw a jingly ball toy in there and the whole cube is alive must kill it from within.

  • matt has a problemmatt has a problem Six pack on a dick Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    h1DI1.jpg
    All my fuckin life I lived a normal fuckin life
  • EchoEcho very gravitas Super Moderator, Moderator mod
    edited November 2010
    Preacher wrote: »
    I dunno if I'd take the isrealies ques on security. At least not harbor security...

    They're totally right about using intelligence and threat analysis instead of backscatter gadgets and confiscating toothpaste, though.

  • japanjapan Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Passerbye wrote: »
    BobCesca wrote: »
    Doc wrote: »
    PLASTIC BAGS ARE NOT TOYS

    kitten licks plastic. We have tried to suggest this is not a good thing, but after 4 years have really given up now. She doesn't eat it or anything, just sits there for ages licking.

    Toby bites hard plastic things, like cell phones with plastic cases, plastic cups, toothbrush handles. Not really a hard bite either, just sort of mouthing it. It's very strange.

    Actually Farah does that too. She is constantly doing it to the corners of my laptop screen.

  • PasserbyePasserbye The Woman Who Is Not Short at The Moonlite All-Nite Diner; a glass box full of bad food and good people.Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Passerbye wrote: »
    The model took it in good humor.

    BA in Graphic Design with a focus in drawing and digital art.

    Yeah, most people who model for art classes are pretty even tempered.

    So you do the 2-D commercial art stuff, eh? That's pretty cool, a couple of my old college friends did that too.

    I'm a sell out yeah.

    Pfff. I was selling my jewelry long before I finished my BFA. Making art to make money doesn't mean the art is bad. I'm not judging you. :)
    Shivahn wrote: »
    Passerbye wrote: »
    Shivahn wrote: »
    Passerbye wrote: »
    Oh man. Cheese is just lovely. So lovely. The loveliest. <3

    Then it probably was you. <3 cheese.

    If ever you come to Seattle we can go to the different cheese shops and then talk about metal whilst nomming. :)

    If I'm ever in the area I'll drop you a line!

    I cannot resist good company or good cheese.

    :oops: I dunno about the former, but I can certainly help you find the latter. I know of three good places to find cheese within easy walking distance of downtown.

  • Regina FongRegina Fong Allons-y, Alonso Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Preacher wrote: »
    Echo wrote: »
    "We have a saying in Hebrew that it's much easier to look for a lost key under the light, than to look for the key where you actually lost it, because it's dark over there. That's exactly how (North American airport security officials) act," Sela said. "You can easily do what we do. You don't have to replace anything. You have to add just a little bit — technology, training. But you have to completely change the way you go about doing airport security. And that is something that the bureaucrats have a problem with. They are very well enclosed in their own concept."

    And rather than fear, he suggests that outrage would be a far more powerful spur to provoking that change.

    "Do you know why Israelis are so calm? We have brutal terror attacks on our civilians and still, life in Israel is pretty good. The reason is that people trust their defence forces, their police, their response teams and the security agencies. They know they're doing a good job. You can't say the same thing about Americans and Canadians. They don't trust anybody," Sela said. "But they say, 'So far, so good'. Then if something happens, all hell breaks loose and you've spent eight hours in an airport. Which is ridiculous. Not justifiable

    "But, what can you do? Americans and Canadians are nice people and they will do anything because they were told to do so and because they don't know any different."

    I dunno if I'd take the isrealies ques on security. At least not harbor security...

    Can you imagine their security here in the states? the number of lawsuits for profiling, and God forbid, people who can't make eye contact due to social or cognitive problems, they'd be getting picked up right and left and screaming ADA all the way to the ACLU.

  • LudiousLudious The Poopsmith A butt, where the poop isRegistered User regular
    edited November 2010
    my dogs methodically tear paper towels to pieces.


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  • Silas BrownSilas Brown Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    I miss cheese in seattle :(

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  • nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    echo still has the most adorable kitty ever

  • LudiousLudious The Poopsmith A butt, where the poop isRegistered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Preacher wrote: »
    Echo wrote: »
    "We have a saying in Hebrew that it's much easier to look for a lost key under the light, than to look for the key where you actually lost it, because it's dark over there. That's exactly how (North American airport security officials) act," Sela said. "You can easily do what we do. You don't have to replace anything. You have to add just a little bit — technology, training. But you have to completely change the way you go about doing airport security. And that is something that the bureaucrats have a problem with. They are very well enclosed in their own concept."

    And rather than fear, he suggests that outrage would be a far more powerful spur to provoking that change.

    "Do you know why Israelis are so calm? We have brutal terror attacks on our civilians and still, life in Israel is pretty good. The reason is that people trust their defence forces, their police, their response teams and the security agencies. They know they're doing a good job. You can't say the same thing about Americans and Canadians. They don't trust anybody," Sela said. "But they say, 'So far, so good'. Then if something happens, all hell breaks loose and you've spent eight hours in an airport. Which is ridiculous. Not justifiable

    "But, what can you do? Americans and Canadians are nice people and they will do anything because they were told to do so and because they don't know any different."

    I dunno if I'd take the isrealies ques on security. At least not harbor security...

    Can you imagine their security here in the states? the number of lawsuits for profiling, and God forbid, people who can't make eye contact due to social or cognitive problems, they'd be getting picked up right and left and screaming ADA all the way to the ACLU.

    But the problem is, they need to be doing that with the TSA now. Invasive porno scanners and sexual assault patdowns should not stand.


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  • FroThulhuFroThulhu Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    I miss cheese in seattle :(

    Do... do they not have cheese in Seattle? I seem to remember eating some cheese in Seattle...

    Help?

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  • PasserbyePasserbye The Woman Who Is Not Short at The Moonlite All-Nite Diner; a glass box full of bad food and good people.Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    I miss cheese in seattle :(

    You need to move here so we can do a regular cheese thing. That time at PAX wasn't nearly enough.
    japan wrote: »
    Actually Farah does that too. She is constantly doing it to the corners of my laptop screen.

    Maybe it just feels nice on their jaws? I'll have to ask the vet next time I take Toby in.

  • nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    its ok Regina

    if they complain we'll just launch some rockets at their cars in traffic

    problem solved

  • ThomamelasThomamelas Bro!Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Thomamelas wrote: »
    Thomamelas wrote: »
    japan wrote: »
    Thomamelas wrote: »
    japan wrote: »
    What the heck is up with that grip?

    Going to take a wild guess and suggest it is some kind of weird workaround so that it doesn't count as a "pistol grip".

    That's exactly it.

    Finally, a practical application for rules lawyering.

    Gun laws are fun and strange. An example.

    stringtrick1ev.jpgThat bit of string has some foil on it. Why? Because the ATF declared it a machine gun. The way the law is written in the US, the part that allows for automatic fire is what is actually a machine gun. That way people can't try to swap parts to get around the restrictions on Automatic weapons. So the bit of string has a $200 stamp tax applied to it. Eventually the ATF realized the silliness of the whole situation and corrected the regulations to make a little more sense.
    You can do the same thing by sticking your thumb through the trigger guard and hooking it into a belt loop on your pants.

    It depends. That mechanism requires a single trigger pull. I'm trying to imagine your method and I keep picturing a moving finger, which wouldn't violate it at all.
    You use your other hand to pull the rifle forward, keeping your forearm locked. It pulls the trigger against your thumb, fires, gives just enough recoil for the trigger to be released before your other hand pulls the rifle forward, repeating the process. I thought it was called "belt looping", and I'd seen a few youtube videos but I can't find any at the moment.

    :edit: Found it, it's bump firing.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjdBcslW4p8

    The rule in this case is for mechanical devices that cause multiple rounds to be fired with a single trigger pull of the finger. What you're describing isn't considered a mechanical device, and the ATF considers bump firing via recoil like that to be multiple trigger pulls. And it's grounds to be kicked off every range I've ever been on.

  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited November 2010

    Can you imagine their security here in the states? the number of lawsuits for profiling, and God forbid, people who can't make eye contact due to social or cognitive problems, they'd be getting picked up right and left and screaming ADA all the way to the ACLU.

    Well it also overlooks the size and cultural break down of our country. I mean a one size fits all security arrangement is impossible in the US, its one of the problems with the TSA to begin with.

  • ShivahnShivahn Eastern coastal temptressRegistered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Passerbye wrote: »
    :oops: I dunno about the former, but I can certainly help you find the latter. I know of three good places to find cheese within easy walking distance of downtown.

    I dunno. You seem pretty cool :P

    I really wish I had more spending money. I could go for some fancy fancy cheese so bad right now.

  • japanjapan Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Echo wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    I dunno if I'd take the isrealies ques on security. At least not harbor security...

    They're totally right about using intelligence and threat analysis instead of backscatter gadgets and confiscating toothpaste, though.

    I tend to think it is because the Israelis have long since come to the realisation that security is a mitigation, and not a prevention exercise. I don't think the US has really come to grips with the notion that terrorist attacks are going to happen whatever you do.

  • PasserbyePasserbye The Woman Who Is Not Short at The Moonlite All-Nite Diner; a glass box full of bad food and good people.Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    FroThulhu wrote: »
    I miss cheese in seattle :(

    Do... do they not have cheese in Seattle? I seem to remember eating some cheese in Seattle...

    Help?

    No. He had cheese when he was here for PAX. I took him to a couple fancy cheese shops, in fact. Normally he's in the barren cheese wasteland of Alaska, so he's jonesing for a little good curdled milk.

  • matt has a problemmatt has a problem Six pack on a dick Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Thomamelas wrote: »
    Thomamelas wrote: »
    Thomamelas wrote: »
    japan wrote: »
    Thomamelas wrote: »
    japan wrote: »
    What the heck is up with that grip?

    Going to take a wild guess and suggest it is some kind of weird workaround so that it doesn't count as a "pistol grip".

    That's exactly it.

    Finally, a practical application for rules lawyering.

    Gun laws are fun and strange. An example.

    stringtrick1ev.jpgThat bit of string has some foil on it. Why? Because the ATF declared it a machine gun. The way the law is written in the US, the part that allows for automatic fire is what is actually a machine gun. That way people can't try to swap parts to get around the restrictions on Automatic weapons. So the bit of string has a $200 stamp tax applied to it. Eventually the ATF realized the silliness of the whole situation and corrected the regulations to make a little more sense.
    You can do the same thing by sticking your thumb through the trigger guard and hooking it into a belt loop on your pants.

    It depends. That mechanism requires a single trigger pull. I'm trying to imagine your method and I keep picturing a moving finger, which wouldn't violate it at all.
    You use your other hand to pull the rifle forward, keeping your forearm locked. It pulls the trigger against your thumb, fires, gives just enough recoil for the trigger to be released before your other hand pulls the rifle forward, repeating the process. I thought it was called "belt looping", and I'd seen a few youtube videos but I can't find any at the moment.

    :edit: Found it, it's bump firing.
    snip

    The rule in this case is for mechanical devices that cause multiple rounds to be fired with a single trigger pull of the finger. What you're describing isn't considered a mechanical device, and the ATF considers bump firing via recoil like that to be multiple trigger pulls. And it's grounds to be kicked off every range I've ever been on.
    I know, I was just pointing out that you don't even need a piece of string to do it. Also, that piece of string operates basically on the same principle, the trigger is still being pulled multiple times, it's just being pulled by the action and not a finger.

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    All my fuckin life I lived a normal fuckin life
  • EchoEcho very gravitas Super Moderator, Moderator mod
    edited November 2010
    japan wrote: »
    Echo wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    I dunno if I'd take the isrealies ques on security. At least not harbor security...

    They're totally right about using intelligence and threat analysis instead of backscatter gadgets and confiscating toothpaste, though.

    I tend to think it is because the Israelis have long since come to the realisation that security is a mitigation, and not a prevention exercise. I don't think the US has really come to grips with the notion that terrorist attacks are going to happen whatever you do.

    Yeah, that's very likely to be a big part of it too. TSA is looking for some 100% certain method, but they're still just going after symptoms by hunting explosive liquids and stuff.

  • PasserbyePasserbye The Woman Who Is Not Short at The Moonlite All-Nite Diner; a glass box full of bad food and good people.Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Shivahn wrote: »
    Passerbye wrote: »
    :oops: I dunno about the former, but I can certainly help you find the latter. I know of three good places to find cheese within easy walking distance of downtown.

    I dunno. You seem pretty cool :P

    I really wish I had more spending money. I could go for some fancy fancy cheese so bad right now.

    Do your local places offer any small hunk type of deals? One that I go to offers the hunks which are left over from tastings at about $2 each, makes a nice lunch with fruit and some bread.

  • EchoEcho very gravitas Super Moderator, Moderator mod
    edited November 2010
    So here I am chatting about airport security while watching youtube movies about bump firing.

    Well, didn't plan to leave the country anyway.

  • FroThulhuFroThulhu Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Passerbye wrote: »
    FroThulhu wrote: »
    I miss cheese in seattle :(

    Do... do they not have cheese in Seattle? I seem to remember eating some cheese in Seattle...

    Help?

    No. He had cheese when he was here for PAX. I took him to a couple fancy cheese shops, in fact. Normally he's in the barren cheese wasteland of Alaska, so he's jonesing for a little good curdled milk.

    Safeway usually has non-cheddar/America/Swiss...

    Cinders wrote: »
    Dogs helped us evolve and create new technology.
    New technology eventually led to the band Queen.
    Without dogs we never would have had Freddy Mercury.
    Declarative Statement!
    XBL: DexHavok
  • NerdgasmicNerdgasmic __BANNED USERS regular
    edited November 2010
    passerbye is a barren Alaska wasteland

    @nealcm @faynor
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  • ThomamelasThomamelas Bro!Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Spoiler:
    I know, I was just pointing out that you don't even need a piece of string to do it. Also, that piece of string operates basically on the same principle, the trigger is still being pulled multiple times, it's just being pulled by the action and not a finger.

    It's the mechanical aspect that's the issue. Part of it is how you define what makes an automatic weapon automatic. You can achieve the same effect from a Gatling gun but it also gets an odd exemption. Like I said, gun laws are strange.

  • PasserbyePasserbye The Woman Who Is Not Short at The Moonlite All-Nite Diner; a glass box full of bad food and good people.Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    FroThulhu wrote: »
    Safeway usually has non-cheddar/America/Swiss...

    When you've had Nonna Capra a factory-made Cambozola or Fromage de Meaux just doesn't quite cut it anymore.

  • MazzyxMazzyx Changing the World Order. Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    I think in general Israelis take a more healthy look at being in danger from terrorism than most Americans. They have had a lot longer to work on it and sometimes they over react like mad but I think the standard Saul on the street is better at coping that your average Joe in the US.

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