I have a question for those of you who think poker is a lot of luck.
Why do you see the same people making final tables and winning tournaments? If it was 50% luck, you wouldn't see the same people in final tables year after year.
Well, I lost in the final round. 3 hands in, got dealt pocket sixes, i raise, guy reraises, I go all-in thinking he has AK or something. He calls and shows pocket 8's. I lose, but turn $5 into $36, so it's all good.
I was playing in a house game, once. A total berry patch. I was kind of half playing, half tutoring. We were playing no limit Texas Hold 'Em. Mainly, I was helping people recognize the more common tells. One that I really focused on is the good hand slouch; most experienced players can recognize when an inexperienced player has good cards, because he'll lean back in his seat.
One of the guys, this Vietnamese fella named Hai, was making a little headway, but his betting was pretty transparent. Basically, you could always tell the quality of his hand by his betting pattern.
So we are checking out our hole cards on one hand, and he is like two or three off the button, so he calls. I'm looking at big slick, so I raise. He stays in, along with a couple other guys. Post-flop, he checks. Now, I am looking at two pair after the flop, with two cards to go. I raise aggressively. He fucking re-raises. I am smelling a bluff, so I go all-in.
Then I notice that motherfucker is leaning way back in his seat.
Fucker slow-played me. As it turns out, he hit trip Aces on the flop, and went on to have Aces over sixes, I believe.
I didn't get knocked out on that hand, but I might as well have. I was severely short-stacked, and was out not long after.
tl;dr I ignored my own goddamned advice, and got tore the fuck up.
Hold 'em is largely a skill-based game, and you can make a living if you're good...but luck definitely plays a factor, more than the average professional will admit.
When I hear a tournament announcer say "It's not gambling for these people..." I want to smack them, because it's still gambling, it's just they are gambling with the odds in their favor. Poker skills only help you calculate the odds and play smart, all the skill in the world can't stop somebody from running to the river and managing to beat your monster hand in a pot you have a significant investment in, if your luck happens to go sour.
You are right, you can bluff all you want, you eventually need the cards to strike it big. Nobody ever went home a winner when the cards have been giving you shit all night.
I walked out with $127, not bad for 20 minutes work.
Now i have to go to work, to earn a real living.
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FalloutGIRL'S DAYWAS PRETTY GOOD WHILE THEY LASTEDRegistered Userregular
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A buddy of mine won ten grand playing poker a while back, i want to get better at it so i can replicate that sort of luck
I love playing poker but i always get my ass kicked
A buddy of mine won ten grand playing poker a while back, i want to get better at it so i can replicate that sort of luck
I love playing poker but i always get my ass kicked
i go for long shots waaaay too fucking often
too much TV
Limit hold-em in particular is often jokingly nicknamed Texas Fold-Em, simply because one of the best strategies is to find a loose table and throw away hands until you pull monsters then milk the table with one or two big hands. I've done this online a few times and my poker skills are terrible, but I have still made significant amounts of money.
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FalloutGIRL'S DAYWAS PRETTY GOOD WHILE THEY LASTEDRegistered Userregular
edited May 2007
Yeah, that's what I really should do, but I get impatient and want to win quickly, naw'mean? I gotta work on my willpower.
Speaking of willpower, I need another pack of smokes. (Fallout equips pants)
A buddy of mine won ten grand playing poker a while back, i want to get better at it so i can replicate that sort of luck
I love playing poker but i always get my ass kicked
i go for long shots waaaay too fucking often
too much TV
Limit hold-em in particular is often jokingly nicknamed Texas Fold-Em, simply because one of the best strategies is to find a loose table and throw away hands until you pull monsters then milk the table with one or two big hands. I've done this online a few times and my poker skills are terrible, but I have still made significant amounts of money.
A buddy of mine won ten grand playing poker a while back, i want to get better at it so i can replicate that sort of luck
I love playing poker but i always get my ass kicked
i go for long shots waaaay too fucking often
too much TV
Limit hold-em in particular is often jokingly nicknamed Texas Fold-Em, simply because one of the best strategies is to find a loose table and throw away hands until you pull monsters then milk the table with one or two big hands. I've done this online a few times and my poker skills are terrible, but I have still made significant amounts of money.
Yeah you are absolutely right, that is probably even an understatement. I once heard a professional describe No Limit Hold 'em as "a psychological slaughter", and that is pretty much what it is. I've never even played a cash no-limit game, I don't have the nerves for it.
A buddy of mine won ten grand playing poker a while back, i want to get better at it so i can replicate that sort of luck
I love playing poker but i always get my ass kicked
i go for long shots waaaay too fucking often
too much TV
Limit hold-em in particular is often jokingly nicknamed Texas Fold-Em, simply because one of the best strategies is to find a loose table and throw away hands until you pull monsters then milk the table with one or two big hands. I've done this online a few times and my poker skills are terrible, but I have still made significant amounts of money.
Yeah you are absolutely right, that is probably even an understatement. I once heard a professional describe No Limit Hold 'em as "a psychological slaughter", and that is pretty much what it is. I've never even played a cash no-limit game, I don't have the nerves for it.
See, the issue with me is that it only takes one retard making a bad call but getting the right card to ruin your shit in No Limit. I have the nerve, but I get really frustrated when I make the right call, and only lose because some dipshit gets a fucking thousand-to-one hand because he made a bad call and stayed in.
I mean, that can still happen in Fixed Limit, but you won't be losing your whole kitty.
It's just way more strategic, and for the most part, you never bluff. You just play your good hands and ride off to glory on your gigantic pile of monies.
Why do people keep bitching that they sometimes lose? It's gambling, not baseball.
If you go all in with an 83% chance to win, that's only an 83% chance to win. I wish people would man up and stop expecting to follow some rules and win every time.
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Still, I have seen a lot of guys that should've mucked before the flop bet stupid, only to hit something totally retarded on the river.
Luck is definitely still involved.
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Yeah, I liked Rounders, too.
fixed limit > no limit
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Full table cups is cautious and plays tight and aggressive when he gets a hand
Heads up cups will reraise you with 3-7 offsuit and be out into a flop of A-K-Q
Well that's how you're supposed to play, though maybe not THAT aggressive
If you're playing 1v1, there's a lot fewer hands that can beat you than if you were against 9 other people.
I was playing in a house game, once. A total berry patch. I was kind of half playing, half tutoring. We were playing no limit Texas Hold 'Em. Mainly, I was helping people recognize the more common tells. One that I really focused on is the good hand slouch; most experienced players can recognize when an inexperienced player has good cards, because he'll lean back in his seat.
One of the guys, this Vietnamese fella named Hai, was making a little headway, but his betting was pretty transparent. Basically, you could always tell the quality of his hand by his betting pattern.
So we are checking out our hole cards on one hand, and he is like two or three off the button, so he calls. I'm looking at big slick, so I raise. He stays in, along with a couple other guys. Post-flop, he checks. Now, I am looking at two pair after the flop, with two cards to go. I raise aggressively. He fucking re-raises. I am smelling a bluff, so I go all-in.
Then I notice that motherfucker is leaning way back in his seat.
Fucker slow-played me. As it turns out, he hit trip Aces on the flop, and went on to have Aces over sixes, I believe.
I didn't get knocked out on that hand, but I might as well have. I was severely short-stacked, and was out not long after.
tl;dr I ignored my own goddamned advice, and got tore the fuck up.
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Limed into a 0.25/0.50 table with $10, currently sitting on $107.
10 man table.
When I hear a tournament announcer say "It's not gambling for these people..." I want to smack them, because it's still gambling, it's just they are gambling with the odds in their favor. Poker skills only help you calculate the odds and play smart, all the skill in the world can't stop somebody from running to the river and managing to beat your monster hand in a pot you have a significant investment in, if your luck happens to go sour.
I walked out with $127, not bad for 20 minutes work.
Now i have to go to work, to earn a real living.
I love playing poker but i always get my ass kicked
i go for long shots waaaay too fucking often
too much TV
Limit hold-em in particular is often jokingly nicknamed Texas Fold-Em, simply because one of the best strategies is to find a loose table and throw away hands until you pull monsters then milk the table with one or two big hands. I've done this online a few times and my poker skills are terrible, but I have still made significant amounts of money.
Speaking of willpower, I need another pack of smokes. (Fallout equips pants)
That's why I said:
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Yeah you are absolutely right, that is probably even an understatement. I once heard a professional describe No Limit Hold 'em as "a psychological slaughter", and that is pretty much what it is. I've never even played a cash no-limit game, I don't have the nerves for it.
I mean, that can still happen in Fixed Limit, but you won't be losing your whole kitty.
It's just way more strategic, and for the most part, you never bluff. You just play your good hands and ride off to glory on your gigantic pile of monies.
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If you go all in with an 83% chance to win, that's only an 83% chance to win. I wish people would man up and stop expecting to follow some rules and win every time.
Losing comes with the territory.
I hate losing to a fucking idiot who is "fighting the chimp", as we call it.
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mainly because I don't play it very often
not really suprising
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