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999[DS] / VLR[3DS/PSV]: Wassup. You have Zero chance of Escape. Siggyyyyyy. Phidoooooo.

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  • GreenGreen Stick around. I'm full of bad ideas.Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Apparently we have one copy of this at work, and I'm torn over getting it or not. If I love the Ace Attorney/Hotel Dusk/Layton games will I like this?

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  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Vyolynce wrote: »
    I think people have a tendency to stick with the familiar, in other words, attempting to go through doors with the same people.

    I also think the people who play this game will be most likely to go through door 5 first, out of morbid curiosity. Akane isn't well enough established to make me care about her by the time we get to that first decision point.

    Theo only two people you can go through all three doors with are Lotus or Seven. You can never go with Clover or Ace the first time, and can't go with Santa or June the second time (unless you do, in which case they're shut out of the 3rd door).

    Although I think you missed my point. :)

    I don't think I missed your point. You want to know what the chance is that somebody would stumble across a route that leads to the final ending right off the bat.

    There are 14 possible "door paths" through the game, but also a few choices to be made on certain paths that can affect things too. If it were totally random, a little less than one in seven people would get one of those endings on their first try.

    But as I said I think the sort of people who would buy this game are probably more likely to make certain choices than others:
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    Personally I made my first game decisions this way:
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  • VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Yeah, it sailed over your head.
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  • Gaming-FreakGaming-Freak Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Vyolynce wrote: »
    Yeah, it sailed over your head.
    Spoiler:

    Don't you get it?
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  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Well it's kind of hard when you haven't gotten the true ending yet, geez.

    And I just did. Humorous thing here, major spoiler:
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  • Gaming-FreakGaming-Freak Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Well it's kind of hard when you haven't gotten the true ending yet, geez.

    And I just did. Humorous thing here, major spoiler:
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    But it's a neat thing to think over, eh?

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  • HedgethornHedgethorn Associate Professor of Historical Hobby Horses In the Lions' DenRegistered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Well it's kind of hard when you haven't gotten the true ending yet, geez.

    And I just did. Humorous thing here, major spoiler:
    Spoiler:

    Thank you for that spoiler. For the life of me, I couldn't figure out how that twist worked.

  • NickTheNewbieNickTheNewbie Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    It's not a point and click for the most part, there are individual segments where you have to find items and use them together to solve puzzles, but they're broken up into small chunks. Except in a few plot-related cases, there's not a lot of finding an item early on that will help you out at the end of the game.

    Outside of the "escape the room" puzzles, this is closer to an interactive novel than a game. If I remember right, Hotel Dusk had a lot of dialogue options and ways to influence the conversation. This game has maybe 10-20 dialogue decision points per playthrough, and they're not even all that significant, usually.

    I'd say it is both better written than Hotel Dusk and a better story than Hotel Dusk. Hotel Dusk was fun and awesome and all, but it played too safe, too family friendly. Not enough action, too tame a conflict. 999 gets into some high stakes situations and is a really awesome mystery. And there's actually something at stake, as you will be reminded multiple times before you see the real ending.

    It's pretty long too. I think my final playthrough took 5-6 hours, and that's including the ability to skip stuff you've already seen. The climax of the game is like 3 hours of nothing but reading, and I loved it.

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  • VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    I'd say it is both better written than Hotel Dusk and a better story than Hotel Dusk. Hotel Dusk was fun and awesome and all, but it played too safe, too family friendly. Not enough action, too tame a conflict. 999 gets into some high stakes situations and is a really awesome mystery. And there's actually something at stake, as you will be reminded multiple times before you see the real ending.

    I'd agree with all of this.

    And I just did. Humorous thing here, major spoiler:
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    Thank you, that was a major source of confusion about the true ending.

    The other is the mention that
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    And Gaming-Freak: I get how the game is supposed to work within its own logic. My idle curiosity was if the theory presented in the game (especially the portrait conversation with Lotus) would apply outside of the game.

  • Gaming-FreakGaming-Freak Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Vyolynce wrote: »
    I'd say it is both better written than Hotel Dusk and a better story than Hotel Dusk. Hotel Dusk was fun and awesome and all, but it played too safe, too family friendly. Not enough action, too tame a conflict. 999 gets into some high stakes situations and is a really awesome mystery. And there's actually something at stake, as you will be reminded multiple times before you see the real ending.

    I'd agree with all of this.

    And I just did. Humorous thing here, major spoiler:
    Spoiler:

    Thank you, that was a major source of confusion about the true ending.

    The other is the mention that
    Spoiler:

    And Gaming-Freak: I get how the game is supposed to work within its own logic. My idle curiosity was if the theory presented in the game (especially the portrait conversation with Lotus) would apply outside of the game.

    Well, certainly would be interesting, but until it's actually proven, the Morphogenic Field theory would remain fictional.

    As for your second thing in spoilers:
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  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    I wish we knew more about Seven. (massive superhuge spoilers)
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  • Gaming-FreakGaming-Freak Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    I wish we knew more about Seven. (massive superhuge spoilers)
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    It's also possible that...
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  • VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    I really feel sorry for Lotus. Everyone else had a reason for being "chosen", and some sort of role to play in Zero's design. All she had was
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    That hardly seems like a fair reason to put her through this.

  • Gaming-FreakGaming-Freak Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Vyolynce wrote: »
    I really feel sorry for Lotus. Everyone else had a reason for being "chosen", and some sort of role to play in Zero's design. All she had was
    Spoiler:

    That hardly seems like a fair reason to put her through this.

    Well, if you think about it...
    Spoiler:

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  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    It's also possible that...
    Spoiler:

    I thought I addressed that...
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  • WinkyWinky Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    So I completed the game, I didn't get the true ending but I feel like I got a pretty decent one.
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  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Winky wrote: »
    So I completed the game, I didn't get the true ending but I feel like I got a pretty decent one.
    Spoiler:
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  • B:LB:L Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    B:L wrote: »
    Ugh, forgot to pre-order it for the watch.
    Update: You can now order the game at the Aksys store, and it comes with the watch.

    http://www.aksysgames.com/store/

    Alternatively, at the very bottom of the store list is the watch itself for $4.95.

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  • GreenGreen Stick around. I'm full of bad ideas.Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Still fairly early into the game but so far I really like it

    Though the bit I just read seems really stupid
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  • GreenGreen Stick around. I'm full of bad ideas.Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Aaaaand my first ending was #3

    D:

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  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Green wrote: »
    Still fairly early into the game but so far I really like it

    Though the bit I just read seems really stupid
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    Well, it is logical based on the wording, but yeah, ultimately there is no reason to assume that. It could easily be an attempt to mislead.

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  • WinkyWinky Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Green wrote: »
    Still fairly early into the game but so far I really like it

    Though the bit I just read seems really stupid
    Spoiler:

    Well, it is logical based on the wording, but yeah, ultimately there is no reason to assume that. It could easily be an attempt to mislead.

    I'm just going to chalk it up to making more sense in Japanese.

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  • VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Green wrote: »
    Aaaaand my first ending was #3

    D:

    That one's just depressing. I think it's the worst, although 6 is right up there.

  • WinkyWinky Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Alright, got ending 4 and ending 6.

    I've realized that I can just go for the true ending now and I'll have visited all the rooms. Is there any really good reasons why I should get any of the other endings first or should I just go for it now?

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  • HedgethornHedgethorn Associate Professor of Historical Hobby Horses In the Lions' DenRegistered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Winky wrote: »
    Alright, got ending 4 and ending 6.

    I've realized that I can just go for the true ending now and I'll have visited all the rooms. Is there any really good reasons why I should get any of the other endings first or should I just go for it now?

    Now that you've gotten ending 4, you can't get ending 2. (The path to ending 2 is the same as the true ending, just without getting 4 first.)

    Endings 3 and 5 are interesting and give some clues to the overall story, but you won't be missing anything by not seeing them before you go through the long slog to the true ending.

  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Don't worry about missing ending 2 either, it is literally just the true ending but cut off part way through. TO BE CONTINUED?!?!

    You might get ending 3 by accident if you don't play your cards right on the way to the true ending.

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  • GreenGreen Stick around. I'm full of bad ideas.Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Fuuuuck, I need to stop playing this. Only had it for two days and I'm at 3 out of 6 endings. The Ace Attorney games usually lasted me about a week each, this will be lucky to make it four days. D:

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  • WinkyWinky Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Don't worry about missing ending 2 either, it is literally just the true ending but cut off part way through. TO BE CONTINUED?!?!

    You might get ending 3 by accident if you don't play your cards right on the way to the true ending.

    I did exactly that :P.
    Spoiler:

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  • VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Green wrote: »
    Fuuuuck, I need to stop playing this. Only had it for two days and I'm at 3 out of 6 endings. The Ace Attorney games usually lasted me about a week each, this will be lucky to make it four days. D:

    Yeah, I blasted through all six endings in the space of two (non-work) days.

    Also, my review went up earlier than I expected.

  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    edited November 2010
    Winky wrote: »
    Don't worry about missing ending 2 either, it is literally just the true ending but cut off part way through. TO BE CONTINUED?!?!

    You might get ending 3 by accident if you don't play your cards right on the way to the true ending.

    I did exactly that :P.
    Spoiler:

    I read somewhere that besides the obvious thing to do, there is another discussion you need to have as well:
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  • Raiden333Raiden333 Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Just picked this up today and beat the first puzzle on my way home. Pretty great.

    One thing though... Is there any way to skip the yellow "THIS IS HOW YOU CHANGE NUMBERS" text, or a way to stop it from showing up every single damn time you try to interact with something?

    Or, was that just there for the first puzzle?

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  • HedgethornHedgethorn Associate Professor of Historical Hobby Horses In the Lions' DenRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Raiden333 wrote: »
    Just picked this up today and beat the first puzzle on my way home. Pretty great.

    One thing though... Is there any way to skip the yellow "THIS IS HOW YOU CHANGE NUMBERS" text, or a way to stop it from showing up every single damn time you try to interact with something?

    Or, was that just there for the first puzzle?

    The tutorials are hardcoded into the first puzzle. You have to click by them every single time you solve the first puzzle (which, if you're anything like everyone else here, will be about five times). But they don't appear again.

  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    On future replays you'll be holding right to fast forward, and it'll take .1 second to skip past it. :)

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  • JesuitsJesuits Registered User
    edited December 2010
    So far, I've managed to get every ending BUT 4 (and thus, 1). Got Ending 2 on my first run, somehow, but now I'm a little curious how I'm gonna manage to get 4. Time to dig through the thread, I guess!

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  • KaseiusKaseius Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Ending 6 was my first one. :(

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  • HedgethornHedgethorn Associate Professor of Historical Hobby Horses In the Lions' DenRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Kaseius wrote: »
    Ending 6 was my first one. :(

    So depressing.
    Jesuits wrote:
    So far, I've managed to get every ending BUT 4 (and thus, 1). Got Ending 2 on my first run, somehow, but now I'm a little curious how I'm gonna manage to get 4. Time to dig through the thread, I guess!

    A small hint for getting ending 4:
    Spoiler:

    Exact directions for getting ending 4:
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  • ReynoldsReynolds Japan's Greatest Import Proto Neo TokyoRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    I found out about the watch and immediately ordered one. I haven't even gotten a chance to play the game yet. But it's just so dorky I couldn't resist. I had been telling my friend about the game, and then about the watch, and he didn't believe me. After seeing the price - with no charge for shipping - he immediately bought one as well.

    So dorky.

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  • JesuitsJesuits Registered User
    edited December 2010
    Hedgethorn wrote: »
    Kaseius wrote: »
    Ending 6 was my first one. :(

    So depressing.
    Jesuits wrote:
    So far, I've managed to get every ending BUT 4 (and thus, 1). Got Ending 2 on my first run, somehow, but now I'm a little curious how I'm gonna manage to get 4. Time to dig through the thread, I guess!

    A small hint for getting ending 4:
    Spoiler:

    Exact directions for getting ending 4:
    Spoiler:

    Thanks for this, I forgot all about that.

    I'm really digging the music in this game, especially This track.

    Also this one.

    At parts, it sounds like the electronic pieces you'd hear in Half-Life 2, but never loses that tense, suspenseful quality. Er, ignore the comment in the first song's link, though, I swear it isn't mine.

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  • EVOLEVOL Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    I got the Axe ending and the Knife ending. This game's way more tense than I thought it'd be. Writing's top-notch, it makes Hotel Dusk and the AA series' writing laughable(yeah, they were never exactly good, but you get the point).

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