League of Legends: RIP Sunfire Garen, 12-14-2010. You will be missed.

CorporateLogo · December 2010

Yes

Nerdgasmic · December 2010

Aegis wrote: »

Did...I just see a turret shot kill a Vlad who was in a pool just now? o_O I thought he evaded every goddamn thing during pool (annoying when you try and ult him as Karthus)?

I don't believe he can avoid turret shots that were targeted before the pool

Dark_Side · December 2010

Tree can get a little arrogant, but it seems pretty rare to me. I was watching one of his most recent streams and both him and his brother were bitching about a bad Warwick and how it was like a 3v5, he even had a rare kind of blow up, but they were getting rolled and their WW was dropping the ball. As per your MF example, if MF is constantly ganking the side lanes, then at some point yeah, the heroes in those lanes should be expecting and looking for it without him having to call her out MIA. (Though yeah, mid should still be doing it regardless.)

That said the guy usually gives people the benefit of the doubt, and seems pretty good about pointing out his own mistakes. I mean at first some of the stuff he says can seem mean, but if you follow the guy's line of reasoning he's usually right in the end, and he does teach you a buttload of stuff about the game.

Arikado · December 2010

I liked it when he had a teammate PhilosoPoppy. He was like "what? no. that's terrible..." *Poppy has slain an enemy*

OremLK · December 2010

Asiina wrote: »

OremLK wrote: »

Asiina wrote: »

Man, I tried to like Tree Eskimo's streams, but he's kind of a douche. He rags on his pubs a lot for being bad even when they're doing fine. He also tends to not take responsibility for stuff that was his fault.

He was midding against MF and she ports back, then goes for a gank on the way back to her lane. He calls her missing just as she is coming out for the gank. Same thing happens again. Later she's missing again and he doesn't call it at all, and when another lane dies to her gank he's all "I didn't call it because MF never goes ganking." When she's already disappeared twice to go ganking. Then he blames them for dying to it because "it's so easy to avoid that's why MF doesn't gank.

He has good advice, but I find he's a really bad team player and whines a lot about his teammates.

I much prefer Roku's stream, since he also does cool things but isn't a total douche while doing it.

He does make it a point to mention his own mistakes a lot. I don't really get the impression that he rages although he definitely comes off as a little arrogant.

I like Roku's stream but his commentary just doesn't teach very much. I feel like I learn something every time I watch Tree play.

It's not really rage as much as just casual arrogance and claiming their bad after about a minute and a half of gameplay. I've seen him complain about someone in another lane being destroyed by their lane opponent when they were 5 CS lower, but then that person goes on to kill their lane opponent and push down the tower first.

And with the case of the MF he says "oh that's my bad, but..." and went on for about 5 minutes giving excuses how it was equally their fault. And when she disappeared again after that he said but didn't call her, it was entirely their fault.

He does give good advice and it makes you think about doing things a little differently so you don't miss out on any experience by backing, but the attitude is definitely offputting.

No but a lot of the time he'll qualify that with a statement like "Well, I don't know how good he is, maybe he's just having a bad game, everyone has bad games". If you watch his stream a lot you'd know that's pretty much what he means when he says somebody is bad--he means they're playing badly. And I've never heard him make a big deal out of something as small as 5 CS, that's a huge exaggeration.

Pacificstar · December 2010

Yeah, don't slander the eskimo!! Errr, who wants to start the new thread? NOT IT.

Basil · December 2010

The next thread should be all about Teemo and how adorable he is.

CorporateLogo · December 2010

I call fives on the new thread

Asiina · December 2010

This was literally a minute and a half into the match and he was calling the solo lanes bad, saying they were getting destroyed by their opponents. This was only after looking at the score screen and while I admit the steam quality makes the CS count hard to see exactly, they were about 5 off.

I think this was the game where he played Urgot for the first time.

I've tried several times to watch his streams, but it always seems that he makes these really arrogant statements about his teammates that come off really douchey. Sometimes he ends up right, sometimes not, but I just don't really like the attitude that comes with the good advice.

Bethryn · December 2010

Tree's is the most informative stream in terms of what he's saying. Hotshot doesn't talk strategy much but when he does, it's usually very good (and beyond calling people out on being bad in-game, he's really nothing like as obnoxious as people on this board want others to believe he is). Jiji's is probably the most informative to watch, in terms of what he's actually doing (I would say he's far and away the best mechanical player). Reginald and DanDinh's are the two that I find the least watchable, both in terms of the players' mechanical ability, and their actual attitude. I mean, Reginald in particular spends half his streams swearing without limit or thought for people watching (honestly, I do not particularly enjoy watching someone call others n*s over and over).

Kias · December 2010

Basil wrote: »

The next thread should be all about Teemo and how adorable he is.

So much hate for Teemo.

Dinger is the real star.

Constrictor · December 2010

I think I'm going to start playing more solo ranked just so I can avoid having to face the most blatantly broken champions.

Asiina · December 2010

Bethryn wrote: »

Tree's is the most informative stream in terms of what he's saying. Hotshot doesn't talk strategy much but when he does, it's usually very good (and beyond calling people out on being bad in-game, he's really nothing like as obnoxious as people on this board want others to believe he is). Jiji's is probably the most informative to watch, in terms of what he's actually doing (I would say he's far and away the best mechanical player). Reginald and DanDinh's are the two that I find the least watchable, both in terms of the players' mechanical ability, and their actual attitude. I mean, Reginald in particular spends half his streams swearing without limit or thought for people watching (honestly, I do not particularly enjoy watching someone call others n*s over and over).

I've only really watched Roku's stream and informative or not, it's damned entertaining. Especially when he plays Lux and is just giggling to himself the whole game.

Aegis · December 2010

Armor Pen Zilean! =D

OremLK · December 2010

Roku is entertaining with Lux. I've watched his stream a pretty good amount and his Lux games are by far the most fun I've had watching it, mostly because you can tell he is having tons of fun himself.

However, I find his commentary very bland and boring, generally speaking. I guess I'm spoiled because I just love that Tree talks about why he does things constantly. Roku almost never does that.

I watched a little of GuardsmanBob today and he was really entertaining.

Pacificstar · December 2010

Constrictor wrote: »

I think I'm going to start playing more solo ranked just so I can avoid having to face the most blatantly broken champions.

I KNOW RIGHT

Nisi · December 2010

Constrictor wrote: »

I think I'm going to start playing more solo ranked just so I can avoid having to face the most blatantly broken champions.

Duo queue with me Constrictor! I've been wanting to play more solo ranked but am not big on queuing by myself.

Saldonas · December 2010

I'm still working for another 4 hours but I'd love to do some normal matches with some people. How would one go about playing with you all? I have the vent info, I just haven't had the time to try it out.

After the talk about Gangplank I was thinking about buying him and trying him out.

schuss · December 2010

Nisi wrote: »

Constrictor wrote: »

I think I'm going to start playing more solo ranked just so I can avoid having to face the most blatantly broken champions.

Duo queue with me Constrictor! I've been wanting to play more solo ranked but am not big on queuing by myself.

Queue with me instead! Nisi hates people, it's a proven fact*.

*hate may be limited to not inviting me to games

Nisi · December 2010

schuss wrote: »

Nisi wrote: »

Constrictor wrote: »

I think I'm going to start playing more solo ranked just so I can avoid having to face the most blatantly broken champions.

Duo queue with me Constrictor! I've been wanting to play more solo ranked but am not big on queuing by myself.

Queue with me instead! Nisi hates people, it's a proven fact*.

*hate may be limited to not inviting me to games

I don't hate yordles and Constrictor is a yordle.

Zoelef · December 2010

Zoelef's Law: In a true solo-queue match, the team with the fewest ragers wins.

Corollary: In the event of a 0-0 rager situation, the match will be difficult yet rewarding even in defeat.

OremLK · December 2010

I put so many people on ignore today. In my last game I had three people all fighting over who got to solo mid (including a Trundle) and then bitch about KSing the entire game. I dunno if they were a partial premade just trolling the pubbies or if they were being serious, but either way, okay, you're 12, and you're on ignore now.

kedinik · December 2010

Zoelef wrote: »

Zoelef's Law: In a true solo-queue match, the team with the fewest ragers wins.

Corollary: In the event of a 0-0 rager situation, the match will be difficult yet rewarding even in defeat.

I Luxed with Cho'gath against a Teemo who kept raging in all chat, just in range of Cho's stun.

So he landed stuns left and right, which I followed up with e -> snare -> hit -> pop e -> hit.

And the more he died the more he raged, it was a vicious cycle.

OremLK · December 2010

By the way the game with the people raging about kill stealing? We were winning that game. By a lot. It wasn't even close.

If they were being serious I can't even imagine what they're like when losing.

Zoelef · December 2010

kedinik wrote: »

Zoelef wrote: »

Zoelef's Law: In a true solo-queue match, the team with the fewest ragers wins.

Corollary: In the event of a 0-0 rager situation, the match will be difficult yet rewarding even in defeat.

I Luxed with Cho'gath against a Teemo who kept raging in all chat, just in range of Cho's stun.

So he landed stuns left and right, which I followed up with e -> snare -> hit -> pop e -> hit.

And the more he died the more he raged, it was a vicious cycle.

/nod

On the other hand, one of these days I'm going to get tempbanned for poking at ragers.

e.g.

Enemy Taric: THIS TRISTANA IS SO BAD
Me: You mispelled Taric
Enemy Taric: STFU
Me: Report you after the match. Got it.

and of course he blows up in the postgame screen, so I ss'd that for educational purposes.

OremLK · December 2010

ESKI!

Holy shit that was fucking epic if anyone else is still watching.

Nidalee is to TreeEskimo as Lux is to Roku.

reVerse · December 2010

That was some epic cougaring.

Aegis · December 2010

Serves me right for turning off the stream. Hopefully he'll put the vids up later.

OremLK · December 2010

Haha, now he's being kind of a dick

But his team did play horrible

Aaaand this is why I don't play solo queue ranked outside of prime hours for the most part

Aegis · December 2010

Listening to his description of 5 minute, zero-creepscore Gragas and the way the team is acting...I feel sorry for Tree.

OremLK · December 2010

Like yeah it was one of those things where the entire team has 0 kills and at least 4 deaths except him

Their solo mid Gragas (who made Tristana duo lane) died like the instant his lane opponent arrived

It was pretty horrible

Talith · December 2010

So the change in Garen's Judgement means you need more than 254 AD from items in order to do more damage than pre-change Garen with the same build. Except if you go tank Garen then you do considerably less damage at all ranks. Why bother playing him again?

Ryadic · December 2010

Talith wrote: »

So the change in Garen's Judgement means you need more than 254 AD from items in order to do more damage than pre-change Garen with the same build. Except if you go tank Garen then you do considerably less damage at all ranks. Why bother playing him again?

He never dies. And his steady damage output is pretty good in team fights.

This is all assumption on my part, too.

nealcm · December 2010

my friend has been having pretty awesome success with AD garen, actually

i always jungle, he always solos top, and i'd say 95% of the time he gets first blood

he said that rank 1 judgement's damage is terrible since the patch, but rank 2 does roughly similar damage as pre patch so he still rips squishies apart and keeps them at 30% until he hits 6

Cutfang · December 2010

Rank 1 judgement has 10 less damage than pre nerf. It's the later ranks that got nerfed.

nealcm · December 2010

huh thats weird

well either way he gets first blood whenever he solos top as garen while i jungle so whatever!

nealcm · December 2010

i am tired and sick and it is finals week so i will steal the next new thread for JAM MOBA SON

i concede the current new thread

MonkeyConQueso · December 2010

I always have a good time when a team/a person on a team whom I'm facing immediately starts talking trash. Like...

Enemy Trundle does a good pillar of filth, blocking me between it, a wall, and a creep wave just out of reach of my tower with my lane mate on the other side, ALMOST resulting in my death as Poppy. I say in /all "Damn Trundle, that was a good pillar, props".

Enemy Irelia from a completely different lane immediately responds with /all "I'm going to push your shit in fag"

To which one of my teammates says /all "Uhhh...he complimented him?"

Fast forward 5 minutes when our solo lane Shen gets his THRID double kill on Rammus and Irelia (I wish to fuck I had a recording of that shit), Irelia ragequits, and I pipe up with /all "Wow, really".

Enemy Trundle /all "He was a having a bad day".

Me /all "Well, it's not exactly a great way to start a game by trash talking."

unintentional · December 2010

thinkin' about buying movespeed quints, specifically for cass, but I'll get use out of them on other people too eventually I bet

nealcm · December 2010

how much movement speed does she get when she Q's a dude

Penny Arcade

League of Legends: RIP Sunfire Garen, 12-14-2010. You will be missed.

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