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Rise, Shining [GUNDAM]!

Mortal SkyMortal Sky FONOTUNEElectric FairytaleRegistered User regular
edited January 2011 in Debate and/or Discourse
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Gundam - A Primer:
What is Gundam, you may ask?
Only the finest work of science fiction continuity that isn't Star Trek, with just as many fans (but no spock ears necessary!)
Gundam tends toward being a Real Robot series, in that the robots are grounded in some semblance of physics (there's even minovsky particles , which are the series' relatively well-founded fictional physics) and used more as tools. There are, however, exceptions, both within the UC at certain specific points (most notably
Spoiler:
) and also very evident in G Gundam.
A general summary of any given Gundam series goes like this:
Humans have colonized space, and the colonies are beginning to claim independence. People get in the crossfire, and a crew of giant robot pilots save the day. When people get killed, the survivors meditate on the nature of war. There are expections to this rule, but that's a general idea. These giant humanoid vehicles are called mobile suits, and among them is the eponymous Gundam line of mobile suits, which are always among the most powerful and generally given to the most important characters.
There's also a hobby! A constant since the show's inception, Gunpla (a portmanteau of gundam plastic) is the construction of miniaturized Gundams, ranging from the fairly cheap 1/144th scale High Grades (generally from $10 to $30, dpending on where you're buying them and which HG model it is) to the 1/60 Perfect Grades (upwards of $250, with literally perfect detailing and extensive posability, but limited selection). In between is the Master Grade (1/100th scale, with very good detail and varying degrees of challenge). There are also other grades but those don't really matter. More on the hobby below.


Universal Century - The main Gundam timeline. Much like how all Star Trek series are in the same timeline and occasionally connect, the Universal Century is a timeline spanning several series and hundreds of characters.
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Alternate Universes:
After some certain point in the production line-up, the Gundam guys at Sunrise wanted to shift things around, so they decided to make the first alternate universe Gundam series (note that these universes are referred to as timelines). Alternate universes tend to have large differences between both themselves and the UC timeline, including different mook mobile suits, a greater abundance of actual Gundam mobile suits (which are rather rare in UC), and different histories of colonization and conflicts. Some alt timelines will have even greater differences.
Spoiler:

By the way if you feel insulted by the brevity of your favorite series summary, then make a write-up and I'll post it!

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  • Mortal SkyMortal Sky FONOTUNE Electric FairytaleRegistered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Gonna reserve this second post for the gunpla section (if anyone does gunpla and has more experience than I do please help me out)

    Kochikens wrote: »
    oh man I saw an otter with a boner at the seattle one and this kid asked his dad, IS HE EATING A HOT DOG
    and I laughed forever
  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    More like take G Gundam seriously and don't take any other Gundam show seriously and you're doing all right.

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  • MagicPrimeMagicPrime "We're ready to believe you..." FireSideWizardRegistered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Somewhere near the end of Gundam: Seed, didn't like 90% of the characters die?

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    This neo-feudalism would be more tolerable if our betters had fancy titles.
  • tallgeezetallgeeze Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    G...GU...GUNNNNDAAAMMM!!!!!!!!

    Nice to see this thread. Anyone see the the 00 Gundam movie that just came out? It looked pretty, but that plot was silly even for a Gundam series.

    Also, a while back I saw Unicorn and I was impressed. I went into it expecting crap, but it was a joy to watch. I have to look up what the release schedule is for that.

    edit: Dammit, guys. I've barely been in here and the G Gundam music is in my head now. Specifically, the music that comes on when Domon puts on human condom of a fighting suit.

  • Armored GorillaArmored Gorilla Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    G Gundam is the best Gundam. Shuffle Alliance, hoooooooo!

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  • BehemothBehemoth Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Besides G Gundam, which is obviously the best, my favorite is Turn-A Gundam.

    It's one of the few Gundam series made by the original creator that isn't massively depressing (he started taking medication). And it has a weird, interesting plot that kinda-sorta ties together every other timeline.

    A shame it was never localized.

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  • MagicPrimeMagicPrime "We're ready to believe you..." FireSideWizardRegistered User regular
    edited January 2011
    I used to have a little model of Gundam DeathScythe

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    This neo-feudalism would be more tolerable if our betters had fancy titles.
  • DritzDritz Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Victory Gundam was one of the best shows no one watched cause they took the impossibly young person makes huge difference in a big war to it's extreme.

    There I was, 3DS: 2621-2671-9899 (Ekera), Wii U: LostCrescendo
  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    I've always liked the Turn-A Gundam designs.

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  • LanzLanz Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Does anyone know if Bandai has any actual intent or plans to toward Gundam UC on DVD in the US?

    Because I'm getting a little annoyed at its apparent BluRay exclusivity.

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  • TarranonTarranon Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Behemoth wrote: »
    Besides G Gundam, which is obviously the best, my favorite is Turn-A Gundam.

    It's one of the few Gundam series made by the original creator that isn't massively depressing (he started taking medication). And it has a weird, interesting plot that kinda-sorta ties together every other timeline.

    A shame it was never localized.

    i tried watching this recently. i think i made it about 20 or so eps in before giving up? i can't stand 90s anime women anymore. it's like creators collectively decided to go out of their way to make all of them shrill and over emotional

  • QuickSnapQuickSnap Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Put on your nostalgia glasses boys, I've got something relevant to this thread. 8-)

    The original two minute Gundam Wing promo for Toonami.

    "A little bit esoteric. Just bare with him, he'll get it right eventually; or drink himself death. Which wouldn't be the worst thing in the world, really."

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  • Der Waffle MousDer Waffle Mous WALK 3X FASTER New Yark, New Yark.Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Behemoth wrote: »
    Besides G Gundam, which is obviously the best, my favorite is Turn-A Gundam.

    It's one of the few Gundam series made by the original creator that isn't massively depressing (he started taking medication). And it has a weird, interesting plot that kinda-sorta ties together every other timeline.

    A shame it was never localized.

    Last I heard they were planning on bringing it over. This was during the summer, I think.

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  • tallgeezetallgeeze Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Tarranon wrote: »
    Behemoth wrote: »
    Besides G Gundam, which is obviously the best, my favorite is Turn-A Gundam.

    It's one of the few Gundam series made by the original creator that isn't massively depressing (he started taking medication). And it has a weird, interesting plot that kinda-sorta ties together every other timeline.

    A shame it was never localized.

    i tried watching this recently. i think i made it about 20 or so eps in before giving up? i can't stand 90s anime women anymore. it's like creators collectively decided to go out of their way to make all of them shrill and over emotional

    Maybe they were inspired from their home life.

  • SlicerSlicer Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Lanz wrote: »
    Does anyone know if Bandai has any actual intent or plans to toward Gundam UC on DVD in the US?

    Because I'm getting a little annoyed at its apparent BluRay exclusivity.

    Last I heard the plan was to have two bundles or some such, instead of single episode releases.

    And while we're talking about new Gundam stuff I just want to say that the Gundam 00 movie was poop. From a butt.


    Edit: I'd be down for helping out with the OP later on if anything in particular is needed. Don't really have time at the moment but I will say that Crunchyroll has legal streams of the original Gundam, Zeta Gundam, Gundam Wing, and Gundam 00 so that should probably be mentioned.

  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    The thing you have to remember about Turn A Gundam is that it is a world where every single person involved in the general plot decides to make the worst, most irrational situation at any given time.

    Watch it again with this in mind and you'll know I'm telling the truth.

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  • BehemothBehemoth Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    I've always liked the Turn-A Gundam designs.

    A lot of the designs were done by Syd Mead, who also worked on Blade Runner, Aliens and Tron.

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  • ACSISACSIS Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Behemoth wrote: »
    Besides G Gundam, which is obviously the best, my favorite is Turn-A Gundam.

    It's one of the few Gundam series made by the original creator that isn't massively depressing (he started taking medication). And it has a weird, interesting plot that kinda-sorta ties together every other timeline.

    A shame it was never localized.

    Last I heard they were planning on bringing it over. This was during the summer, I think.

    Personally i liked the Stargazer mini-story the best.

  • PataPata Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    The thing you have to remember about Turn A Gundam is that it is a world where every single person involved in the general plot decides to make the worst, most irrational situation at any given time.

    Watch it again with this in mind and you'll know I'm telling the truth.

    In other words like every other Gundam show.

    Spoiler:
  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    No, there is usually one or two rational decisions made in your normal Gundam show.

    Turn A...is special.

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  • Irond WillIrond Will Dragonmaster Cambridge. MASuper Moderator, Moderator mod
    edited January 2011
    by "irond will approved" he means that i gave a green-light for him to create the thread

    not that i am into gundams or anything

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  • ACSISACSIS Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    No, there is usually one or two rational decisions made in your normal Gundam show.

    Turn A...is special.

    It manages to surprise occasionally.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdvQwUt-zzg

  • Casually HardcoreCasually Hardcore Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    G Gundam was certainly the best series.

    Though ever since SEED I just don't care about Gundam anymore.

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  • tallgeezetallgeeze Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    I guess I have to watch Turn A Gundam one of these days to see what all the fuss is about. I remember people praising it(I think it was praise) in the 'Ol General Anime Thread days.
    G Gundam was certainly the best series.

    Though ever since SEED I just don't care about Gundam anymore.

    I would say watch 00 Gundam, but that would distance you further. Watch the latest entitled, Gundam Unicorn. It's pretty badass.

  • mynameisguidomynameisguido Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    I personally really enjoyed Gundam SEED for the most part though it had its' low moments.

    But nothing I heard about Destiny gave me much reason to go seeking it out.

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    DESTINY is a gigantic train wreck and totally worth watching for that reason alone.

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  • tallgeezetallgeeze Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Wasn't singing a big element in Destiny? I remember my dislike correlating with singing somehow.

  • LanzLanz Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    by the way, how is the state of Gundam Models these days? I haven't kept up too well and would be interested in hopping back in there.

    Are Master Grades now even more 1/100 scale Perfect Grades?

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  • TNTrooperTNTrooper Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    ACSIS wrote: »
    Behemoth wrote: »
    Besides G Gundam, which is obviously the best, my favorite is Turn-A Gundam.

    It's one of the few Gundam series made by the original creator that isn't massively depressing (he started taking medication). And it has a weird, interesting plot that kinda-sorta ties together every other timeline.

    A shame it was never localized.

    Last I heard they were planning on bringing it over. This was during the summer, I think.

    Personally i liked the Stargazer mini-story the best.

    I haven't even clicked play and I see a room full off naked boys.

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  • LibrarianThorneLibrarianThorne Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Gundam SEED is the worst Gundam show ever. They took the plot of Mobile Suit Gundam and relentlessly hate fucked it into this bland, generic, terrible waste of time. Then they topped themselves with SEED Destiny.

    00 Gundam wasn't bad, but the mobile suit designs were terrible. Mostly I just pretended it was Japan's take on BattleTech and I was happy with it.

    My personal fave after G Gundam is Mobile Suit Gundam, though.

  • Mortal SkyMortal Sky FONOTUNE Electric FairytaleRegistered User regular
    edited January 2011
    I'm watching 08th MS Team right now, and after that I'm going to start up Double Zeta. Somewhere down the line after that I've got Turn A in mind.

    Kochikens wrote: »
    oh man I saw an otter with a boner at the seattle one and this kid asked his dad, IS HE EATING A HOT DOG
    and I laughed forever
  • Mortal SkyMortal Sky FONOTUNE Electric FairytaleRegistered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Lanz wrote: »
    by the way, how is the state of Gundam Models these days? I haven't kept up too well and would be interested in hopping back in there.

    Are Master Grades now even more 1/100 scale Perfect Grades?

    Yeah, Master Grades are still good and they just came out with the Real Grade which is a 144th scale Master.

    Kochikens wrote: »
    oh man I saw an otter with a boner at the seattle one and this kid asked his dad, IS HE EATING A HOT DOG
    and I laughed forever
  • BourneBourne Registered User
    edited January 2011
    I don't know if this has been posted, but is there anywhere to watch full seasons on the internet anywhere?

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  • TaminTamin Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    MagicPrime wrote: »
    I used to have a little model of Gundam DeathScythe

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    DeathScythe really is the best gundam. From the perspective of someone who has only watched Gundam Wing.

    I will be rectifying this, later.

  • KelorKelor Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Bourne wrote: »
    I don't know if this has been posted, but is there anywhere to watch full seasons on the internet anywhere?

    I get the feeling I read somewhere that some of them might be on Hulu?

    Short of that you could probably pick them up super cheap off Amazon during a sale or Rightstuf.


    And yeah, that 00 movie was just terrible. It looked amazing but the plot was terrible and the Celestial Being suits were horrendous. Which is a shame, because the first season was great.

  • Mortal SkyMortal Sky FONOTUNE Electric FairytaleRegistered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Yeah I watched a few episodes of Wing recently on a 4chan stream. It hasn't aged particularly well, as awesome as it was on Toonami forever ago. Also, the wing HG models aren't particularly aging well. However there is a relatively recent set of Wing MGs that are apparently good.

    Kochikens wrote: »
    oh man I saw an otter with a boner at the seattle one and this kid asked his dad, IS HE EATING A HOT DOG
    and I laughed forever
  • BourneBourne Registered User
    edited January 2011
    Kelor wrote: »
    Bourne wrote: »
    I don't know if this has been posted, but is there anywhere to watch full seasons on the internet anywhere?

    I get the feeling I read somewhere that some of them might be on Hulu?

    Short of that you could probably pick them up super cheap off Amazon during a sale or Rightstuf.


    And yeah, that 00 movie was just terrible. It looked amazing but the plot was terrible and the Celestial Being suits were horrendous. Which is a shame, because the first season was great.

    I really liked the first season of 00, that was actually on youtube. I just have a craving for different gundams.

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  • FCDFCD Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Yup, much love for G Gundam here. It's like the spiritual predecesor to Gurren Lagann, only with a better ending and Windmill Gundam. All Hail Windmill Gundam.

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  • ApollohApolloh Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    QuickSnap wrote: »
    Put on your nostalgia glasses boys, I've got something relevant to this thread. 8-)

    The original two minute Gundam Wing promo for Toonami.

    Ohmygodohmygodohmygod

    This was the first anime I ever watched, and this was the promo that made the watch it.

    I was so in love with Gundam when i was young...

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