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[WARMACHINE & HORDES] Pipe Cleaners, Reimagined
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Looks like you're pretty adamant on going with the tier list. First things first, you really don't need five dedicated arc nodes. Second, your Necrotech is going to get picked off pretty quickly, so I'd want at least 2. What I would do is replace the Nightwretches and Pistol Wraith with Ripjaws and a second Necrotech.
From there, you could pick up a Heavy Warjack Kit for a Reaper+Warwitch+Necrotech, or a Slayer+Pistol Wraith+Necrotech.
The Scyir is the worst of Ret's 2 point Solo models.
However, the Scyir has to compete with the House Shyeel Magister and the Mage Hunter Assassin.
So it's kinda like saying that the Scyir is the least hot supermodel at the supermodel convention.
That is a lot of Juggernauts. You own a lot of Juggernauts.
With his Flank, he hits the most reliably of the three and is the least "swingy" in his damage output. That said, the Mage-Hunter, when she swings, swings like a champ. The bitch took out in a single transfer a fully healthy Warpwolf Stalker and still did enough damage to take 8 off of Morvahna once. Was some ol' bullshit.
She turned into a forest that turn. <_<
And stuff.
Pants. Exploding.
COME FORTH, AMATERASU!
PP: "FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK YOU."
Also: More angrybald elves. I'm going to have to buy this now.
Aidan Twosouls, Dwarf Shaman, in Vale of Buried Shadows
I dunno, I think "Suddenly, Gunblades! Thousands of them!" is pretty sweet, but that's me. But yah, this bad boy would be nice to have.
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Also apparently there was some new concept art of a Battle Mechanik Officer attachment in MoW-style armor.
COME FORTH, AMATERASU!
Why does it give me a good sense of this. Is. AWESOME!
Because Torch is awesome. I have an intense, undying hatred of him, as I do with all Khadoran things, but I still respect their power.
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And stuff.
So what's the over/under on him modding a heavy into having dick arms?
COME FORTH, AMATERASU!
Ah, we're not that bad. Take away the Choir and Vassals and our Jacks become Uber-gimped.
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@PMAvers: Not taking any sucker's bets, but I give it a couple months at least, he hasn't even mentioned conversions yet. Though I'm sure we'll see a Dickean before too long.
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Menite jacks are cheap and powerful at the cost of being slow and giant focus hogs.
The choir is just our faction's Skarlock, MHA, Journeyman, Burrowers, Widowmakers, Typhon, Paingivers, or Druids. Those models that just really shouldn't exist, but do.
And stuff.
ANd stuff.
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Ooooh, do I get to complain about spending 8pts for seven Gun Mages? This is gonna be fun!
TL;DR: My faction costs too much for good stuff and everyone else' faction is OP and undercosted.
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Given that his Menoth army is pretty vanilla, from what I understand. . . not that high.
[FACTIONS I LOSE TO] are(is) overpowered, and all of their wins are directly attributed their handicap!
[FACTIONS I WIN AGAINST] is(are) currently at an adequate power level!
Oh, yeah, I figured. I just mostly wanted to make a Legion-dong-hands-beast joke.
COME FORTH, AMATERASU!
So that's how you make Nephilim.....
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Something like:
Zerkova
Vanguard 4
Vanguard 4
Marauder 6
Marauder 6
Juggernaut 6
Greylords 4
Greylords 4
Kayazy+UA 10
Kayazy+UA 10
Gorman 2
Zerkova's feat gives her whole army Polarity Field, more or less. Should help her jacks get an alpha strike once in a while, maybe let the Marauders smite a heavy into the charge range of some unscrupulous Kayazy.
Ugh.....I don't know if I can choose what needs to die first in there. Eh, All Burn.
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Reckoner is indeed one of our monster jacks, for his cost. But the Crusader's cost lets it find it's way into lists once in awhile as an el cheapo muscle choice.
Otherwise, you're correct in that once you start facing infantry, the Vanquisher is a solid choice. I would say if you've got the materials for conversion, might as well do it, if only because the situation to use it might come up.
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That gun has a 14" threat, and with pKreoss' feat, your opponent can't screen his Caster. One PS14+3d6 followed by a POW 12+2d6(with no overboosted armor, I might add) makes him a great choice. The loss of 2 POW on his weapon, and the loss of his fist is a bit harsh, but I'd say it's worth it if you have the points.
You have 5 bonejacks. Personally, I only run 2-3 maximum in a 25 pt game. Mostly because outside of arc nodes, of which you probably don't have enough focus to spread around, the bonejacks themselves aren't very sturdy. Personally I'd swap out two of those bonejacks for a heavy, I like Reapers. Alternatively you could drop 3 bonejacks and gain a Deathjack-- which would still be able to cast your spells like the skarlock/arc nodes would, but would also be a pain for your enemy to deal with.
Beyond that suggestion, I'd say that you lack something usually critical to a Cryx army: Units. Cryx send hordes of units to die and bring them back over and over again. You seem to be trying to do that with the necrotechs in terms of your bonejack repairing, but I feel like those techs would get killed and you'd be fucked in more cases than you'd like. Generally having at least one unit of something gives you more diversity of play than a hobble of bonejacks forming a line to protect Denny.
Your list could be pretty potent, with the right use of that Slayer, but I figure it's pretty niche given its reliance on the bonejacks. With regard to fighting Khador, Bane Thralls do well to lower MOW and Khador's high armor, but using Deneghra+ something that hits hard would do the trick too. Probably a ripjaw, or some Bane Knights would be a good defense against his MOW, though speed or your Pistol Wraiths are probably your one way to deal with his sniper.
Just a thought, since no one's chimed in and I only really play Cryx.
... and I cough for every crater that I could see, / on the surface of that coffin we've come to call the moon." Circle Takes the Square
Just that I think that, while Druids are strong, they are 9pts, and I think justifiably 9pts. strong.
And stuff.
Fair. I feel the same way about ATGM. I just felt the need to PPForum this argument up a bit.
I dunno that there's a Circle model/unit that I would put on the "WTF were they thinking?" list, as they tend to be tricksy and buff-based.
Indeed, just "I'm playing this why again?" But you learn, you roll the dice, have some laughs.
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Warmachine is, I think, the only game where I didn't come to that point.
Not due to any talent on my part, but rather things like 'pFeora with 2 focus survives 7 attacks from Mulg with both Carnage and Rage, then kills enemy warlock with fire damage'. Now I'm at the point where when I lose, I feel like I was fairly outplayed; except for [FACTIONS I LOSE TO], those guys are assholes.
Not that I find the Cryx unit choices lacking, but I'd like to know what more experienced players think about mercs.
Edit: Thanks Carnarvon!
Cooool.