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Bioshock - choice *is* wrong

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    RookRook Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    If you look at the videos they run around for cover.

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    EdcrabEdcrab Actually a hack Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Yeah, I'm assuming that Little Sisters will somehow take cover or interpose a Protector between themselves and trouble or hide in little hatches someplace or something. I doubt they'll be invulnerable in the "ah-ha, now a point-blank grenade to the face and wah?" sense.


    EDIT: Urgh. Slow Ed is slowwwwwww.

    Problem with cover is there's not much to stop me ignoring combat and seeking out the sister, so I'm still assuming there's more to it than the AI deciding to stand behind something.

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    XagarathXagarath Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Well, that forum quote relieves a lot of worries I had with this one.

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    GoslingGosling Looking Up Soccer In Mongolia Right Now, Probably Watertown, WIRegistered User regular
    edited May 2007
    I was about to come in here all "dude they totally broke the immersion thing".

    Then Ken gave a very reasonable explanation as to why- there are a finite amount of them and they kept getting caught in the crossfire, removing the intended impact. The only reason they're immune to everything but extraction is specifically so you have to see them face-to-face.

    Compare to when swords went by the wayside in warfare in favor of guns. It's easy to kill from a distance; you never see who you're killing. Try standing right in front of him and running him through the heart, screams and all. Now how easy is it?

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    PharezonPharezon Struggle is an illusion. Victory is in the Qun.Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    We all know that modders will make it so that you can kill-kill them and not just harvest them with the pc version.

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    XagarathXagarath Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    I am, however, getting a feeling there may be some entertainment for some people in throwing explosives and watching them bounce off little girls.

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    scootchscootch Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Rook wrote: »
    If you look at the videos they run around for cover.

    what the hell for?

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    RookRook Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    scootch wrote: »
    Rook wrote: »
    If you look at the videos they run around for cover.

    what the hell for?

    They seem to go ow when they get hit in the videos. Perhaps it still hurts them. Perhaps healing uses up precious Adam. Perhaps they're got a phobia of walking through flames and getting shot at. Perhaps they want to make the job easier for their Big Daddies. Perhaps the developers wanted to keep the sense of immersion as much as possible. Perhaps they can still get killed, and it'll just be in scripted situations.

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    PharezonPharezon Struggle is an illusion. Victory is in the Qun.Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    scootch wrote: »
    Rook wrote: »
    If you look at the videos they run around for cover.

    what the hell for?

    Wouldn't you run around the corner if there were bullets and grenades flying everywhere?

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    EdcrabEdcrab Actually a hack Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    scootch wrote: »
    Rook wrote: »
    If you look at the videos they run around for cover.

    what the hell for?

    Presumably because the ingame/in-universe reason for their invulnerability isn't "so you have to interact with them up-close and personal".

    I imagine in Half-Life 2 my allies aren't really bulletproof and rocket proof, because- oh. That guy just got shot in the face.

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    LewishamLewisham Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    mtvcdm wrote: »
    I was about to come in here all "dude they totally broke the immersion thing".

    Then Ken gave a very reasonable explanation as to why- there are a finite amount of them and they kept getting caught in the crossfire, removing the intended impact. The only reason they're immune to everything but extraction is specifically so you have to see them face-to-face.

    Compare to when swords went by the wayside in warfare in favor of guns. It's easy to kill from a distance; you never see who you're killing. Try standing right in front of him and running him through the heart, screams and all. Now how easy is it?

    Well I'd only kill real men, who look you right in the eyes and then push the sword deeper into their own chest.

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    OrikaeshigitaeOrikaeshigitae Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited May 2007
    Ken Levine wrote:
    “…what am I going to do now…” she cries, or pathetically intones “Muh-muh-muh Mr. Bub-bub-bles…”

    I wonder how long it'll take before that gets on your nerves. I hate canned repetitive responses with a small pool to choose from.

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    EdcrabEdcrab Actually a hack Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    "Oh for the... you call that pathetic and melancholy? Fuck that, you did that last time. No sympathy for you! GIVE ME THAT ADAM!"

    *stabbity surgery-type nastiness ensues*

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    endlosnullendlosnull Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Anyone else see the winners of the Limited Edition box art contest?
    3rd place winner
    10.jpg

    Look familiar?;-)

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    FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Ken Levine wrote:
    “…what am I going to do now…” she cries, or pathetically intones “Muh-muh-muh Mr. Bub-bub-bles…”

    I wonder how long it'll take before that gets on your nerves. I hate canned repetitive responses with a small pool to choose from.

    I'm sure they're not all gonna be like that.

    Come on, folks, it's the freaking System Shock people. Have a little faith.

    Furu on
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    JJJJ DailyStormer Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    If we don't bitch about everything they might make a mistake!!!!

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    RookRook Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    endlosnull wrote: »
    Anyone else see the winners of the Limited Edition box art contest?
    3rd place winner
    10.jpg

    Look familiar?;-)

    The fact that they even included the ring is kinda surprising.

    edit: Wedding Ring that is.

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    durandal4532durandal4532 Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Rook wrote: »
    The fact that they even included the ring is kinda surprising.

    edit: Wedding Ring that is.
    The what now? What is that supposed to look like to me?

    Also, even though it's a reasonable explanation that they died to often, it annoys me a bit that trigger-happy moron characters don't have to deal with "Wait... all the ADAM is gone... oops!" And this whole back and forth on "we didn't want it to be all about killing children" vs. "now you super have to kill children and feel bad!" is annoying. Whether it's so I don't or so I care more when I do, I don't really enjoy a very wide-open game restricting me like that.

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    RookRook Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Rook wrote: »
    The fact that they even included the ring is kinda surprising.

    edit: Wedding Ring that is.
    The what now? What is that supposed to look like to me?

    It's got a kinda Capra aegagrus look to it. I saw one once whilst surfing around the Christmas Islands, not something you forget in a hurry.

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    durandal4532durandal4532 Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Rook wrote: »
    Rook wrote: »
    The fact that they even included the ring is kinda surprising.

    edit: Wedding Ring that is.
    The what now? What is that supposed to look like to me?

    It's got a kinda Capra aegagrus look to it. I saw one once whilst surfing around the Christmas Islands, not something you forget in a hurry.

    Wait. Am I going insane? It looks like a goat with a wedding ring?

    ... which is familar?

    Did I not read a book or something? Is there a goat-based equivalent to Star Wars that just never came my way?

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    augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Did I not read a book or something? Is there a goat-based equivalent to Star Wars that just never came my way?

    I'm pretty sure these guys are in the Illuminati or something. Soon the both of us will receive terminal visits from Men in Black for reading this thread.

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    JWFokkerJWFokker Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    So what the fuck is it supposed to look like?

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    XagarathXagarath Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    I have seen that symbol before and do not remember where.

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    Edge_TurnEdge_Turn Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Rook wrote: »
    Rook wrote: »
    The

    Did I not read a book or something? Is there a goat-based equivalent to Star Wars that just never came my way?


    If you don't know what it is, consider yourself blessed, blessed, thrice blessed. And DON'T investigate any further. You stand upon the brink of Google-related doom.

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    Houk the NamebringerHouk the Namebringer Nipples The EchidnaRegistered User regular
    edited May 2007
    JWFokker wrote: »
    So what the fuck is it supposed to look like?
    a married goat, apparently.

    Houk the Namebringer on
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    NarianNarian Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    As soon as I read the first post I said "Levine will put in a good way to implement the Little Sister's invulnerability." I tend to give Devs the benefit of the doubt on unreleased games.

    And sure enough I was right.

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    EdcrabEdcrab Actually a hack Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    I am utterly, hopelessly, and completely confused.

    ...what?

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    RookRook Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Houk wrote: »
    JWFokker wrote: »
    So what the fuck is it supposed to look like?
    a married goat, apparently.

    From the christmas islands.

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    Gotcha ForceGotcha Force Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    :^:O:v:

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    augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    :^:O:v:

    Wow. I am proud I didn't get that.

    The rest of you I am worried about.

    Still: goats? What? Islands? What?

    EDIT: Apparently I am a fucking moron.

    Although I am better than anyone who can recognize the fucking wedding ring you freakos.

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    FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    OH GOD

    I FINALLY GOT IT

    OH FUCK WHY DID I HAVE TO GET IT

    AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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    FugitiveFugitive Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Furu wrote: »
    Ken Levine wrote:
    “…what am I going to do now…” she cries, or pathetically intones “Muh-muh-muh Mr. Bub-bub-bles…”

    I wonder how long it'll take before that gets on your nerves. I hate canned repetitive responses with a small pool to choose from.

    I'm sure they're not all gonna be like that.

    Come on, folks, it's the freaking System Shock people. Have a little faith.

    Tribes Vengeance.

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    EdcrabEdcrab Actually a hack Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Oh Jesus Christ I just figured it out

    I even got the first "goats" hint and still didn't click- I was like "how is that related to this?"

    GOD NO

    SOMEONE HOLD ME

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    Der Waffle MousDer Waffle Mous Blame this on the misfortune of your birth. New Yark, New Yark.Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGH

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    Der Waffle MousDer Waffle Mous Blame this on the misfortune of your birth. New Yark, New Yark.Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Fugitive wrote: »
    Furu wrote: »
    Ken Levine wrote:
    “…what am I going to do now…” she cries, or pathetically intones “Muh-muh-muh Mr. Bub-bub-bles…”

    I wonder how long it'll take before that gets on your nerves. I hate canned repetitive responses with a small pool to choose from.

    I'm sure they're not all gonna be like that.

    Come on, folks, it's the freaking System Shock people. Have a little faith.

    Tribes Vengeance.
    Oh, you're one of those people.

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    FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Fugitive wrote: »
    Furu wrote: »
    Ken Levine wrote:
    “…what am I going to do now…” she cries, or pathetically intones “Muh-muh-muh Mr. Bub-bub-bles…”

    I wonder how long it'll take before that gets on your nerves. I hate canned repetitive responses with a small pool to choose from.

    I'm sure they're not all gonna be like that.

    Come on, folks, it's the freaking System Shock people. Have a little faith.

    Tribes Vengeance.

    Freedom Force.

    Furu on
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    augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Fugitive wrote: »
    Furu wrote: »
    Ken Levine wrote:
    “…what am I going to do now…” she cries, or pathetically intones “Muh-muh-muh Mr. Bub-bub-bles…”

    I wonder how long it'll take before that gets on your nerves. I hate canned repetitive responses with a small pool to choose from.

    I'm sure they're not all gonna be like that.

    Come on, folks, it's the freaking System Shock people. Have a little faith.

    Tribes Vengeance.

    Could have been good if they hadn't split their resources over single and multi.

    And it had sold.

    And the fans had supported it.

    And the publisher had supported it.

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    endlosnullendlosnull Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    JWFokker wrote: »
    So what the fuck is it supposed to look like?

    In the words of the artist who made it, "I'm positively agape!"

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    FugitiveFugitive Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Furu wrote: »
    Fugitive wrote: »
    Furu wrote: »
    Ken Levine wrote:
    “…what am I going to do now…” she cries, or pathetically intones “Muh-muh-muh Mr. Bub-bub-bles…”

    I wonder how long it'll take before that gets on your nerves. I hate canned repetitive responses with a small pool to choose from.

    I'm sure they're not all gonna be like that.

    Come on, folks, it's the freaking System Shock people. Have a little faith.

    Tribes Vengeance.

    Freedom Force.

    Tribes Vengeance had one of the best narratives in a videogame.

    But man, on the whole?

    A blemish and a murder.

    Please excuse me while I cradle my childhood.

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    FireflashFireflash Montreal, QCRegistered User regular
    edited May 2007
    omg I finally understood that picture. That's horrible and clever at the same time.

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