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[Mini]SPA: Skaian Strife: White King: Winning Karma
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:whistle:Rise with the Moon and go to bed with the Sun
Early to bed and you'll miss all the fun
Bring your wife trouble, she will never trouble you:whistle:
The black king is pursued. Cornered by some lowly white pawns, he is unable to do anything when the White King moves in for the kill.
Checkmate.
Meanwhile, in a timeless expanse...
Somewhere, a WARWEARY VILLEIN rues eternal struggle between feuding royalty.
The BATTLEFIELD holds little promise for the peaceful life of a simple farmer.
Tommy2hands: Black King Check, and mate.
Ok, here's the deal. Since someone didn't send in orders today, we still have one more day. However, since there's so few people left, I see no reason to wait until this time tomorrow to finish it, so when everyone is happy with the vote, confirm in lime. And once everyone has confirmed (or it's 9PM again), I'll resolve the day
Note to self: Factions, mafia ain't shit
Can someone explain why this game is still going on?
I'm the WV and my ability is either: kill if target is special (dragonnumbers, thetheroo etc) or convert if target is pawn (which so far was only lucedes. Segatai started masoned with me.)
If white king dies tonight (vote comes last, so my ability still goes through), white faction loses. You remain in play but you lost. None of you have abilities to prevent it if I aim true.
The white pawns however can still win with me if they defect. As I can have pawns join up with me.
Still waiting for clarification as to what happens when white king is dead and if I still lose to the vote. Spoit told me that if you defect (and king is dead) WV and pawns win but I want to be sure, even if the vote is a tie or whatever.
In any case you lose when white king dies unless you join up with me.
roman, antimatter - vote with me. And win, under the banner of the revolution
neotama
going for a short nap. if you have any questions I suggest you PM Spoit about all of this. Speaking of PMing spoit, In case I do lose to the vote PM him something in the lines of "I WILL DEFECT TO GLORIOUS WV", just in case. Not sure how to interprete one of his earlier PMs talking about defecting. Safest case is if I dont lose to the vote, of course.
Antimatter, don't forget to change your vote. When white king dies all of white lose. If you switch the vote you win with me after white king is dead (tonight).
Me killing white king cannot be prevented by the vote, so white voting me out doesn't work.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=407GWFMdiuE
The WV and the remaining white forces meet on the battlefield.
A plea made, a pawn swayed.
Neotoma makes to join with the rebels, but before he can take 2 steps, the other pawn leaps into action.
Without regard for his own safety, Antimatter flips out in the defense of the king. Weilding the mighty sword of innactivus, he cuts down the remaining rebels in a fit of WORKERS PURGATION.
White King: Survey Casualties:
Everyone is dead
Everyone but you
The White Kingdom are the winners!
Neotoma White Pawn innactivus
Antimatter White Pawn WORKERS PURGATION
Alegis Wandering Villein vote
Please can someone explain what happened.
And the roles:
WV?
You resigned as a soldier to work on a farm, but the battle came and destroyed all your crops. You hate kings and you think kings are really stupid. They are petty, bossy tyrants and are really full of themselves and are basically awful in every way.
God do you hate kings. So much that your goal is to ELIMINATE ALL THREATS TO PEACE
Democratic Demagogy:Once per day you may choose a target to try to convert to your cause. This only works on the lowliest pawns; Any higher ranked targets will not be swayed by your words, and are instead killed. For Democracy, and stuff.
You have already convinced a fellow pawn, SeGaTai to join your cause, playernames. If you gain more converts, the rebellion may gain additional powers. For Democracy.
Win Condition: Eliminate all threats to your rebellion
Converted Pawn
Jack Noir
Black King
Black Queen
Black Bishop
Black Rook
Black Knight
Black Pawn
The white roles are pretty much the same, except, you know yellow. And the white queen may not have had that one line, bluh bluh.
Yeah, i wasn't quite sure how it happened in the end, I thought I was ultra obvious as the white king.
Oh well. I was thinking that i wasn't being grudged enough. This game might change that.
This whole last day was a horrible mistake compounded on the other mistakes I made earlier. Waaaay back on the 1st day Alegis targeted romanqwerty, for his conversion/kill. When he asked me what was up with it taking the black queen out instead, I was the silliest of geese and made up something about busdriving in an attempt to not have the white king die day 2, ruining the game for half the people, rather than just admitting it was an auto-guard, or even the old clarification denied.
Anyway, at the beginning of today, there was Alegis, with his conversion/kill power, Romanqwerty, the king who had to live, and the 2 white pawns with their sacrificial power, and who also would lose if the king died.
So to make up for that mistake earlier, and also because I was advised by Rawkking_goodguy that I probably shouldn't autoresolve when there are conversions in play, I offered Alegis a deal. Rather than having no one win if he took out the king, and was in turn taken out by the vote, I bent the rules a bit. If he managed to kill the king (which would have gone off first), I would have allowed the (then leaderless) pawns to win under him if he wasn't vote killed.
But then that whole thing with him suspecting neotoma of being the king made me remember what a goose I was, and how I'd made up that lie all the way back then, so I came clean with him and extended the vote to give him a chance to put the clues together. But he went offline a couple minutes before I PMed him, and didn't get back until now
Not that it would have mattered, as antimatter used his sacrificial guard to protect the king anyway, so even if he had changed to the right target, he wouldn't have died.
On a side note, how useful do you think a double vote count would be? Strikes me as a not very useful power, but then again I could be looking at it from the wrong angle.
FTC: HONK.
In retrospect, I probably should have used a more standard busdriver power. I thought that with everyone having a power, and it being a faction game, switching who's targeting who rather than who's being targeted would be more useful. I don't think it actually successfully processed even once. Though to be fair, farangu didn't send in orders most of the time and duna bit it day 1.
I probably also should have given the queen a bit more useful of a secondary power. The auto-guard worked as intended, but the double voting power was rather worthless with how much the village sheeped. I thought that the faction nature of the game and specifically pointing out that the vote trickled would have involved more fighting over the 2nd place vote.
In fact, as far as I can tell, there wasn't much networking going on until half the people were killed? The seers were really unlike with their targets, except for thetheroo, who said that he had successfully infiltrated one (which is what I intended with his powers, to make up for only having an every other day kill as a SK), but was killed that day by a lucky shot from WV.
EDIT: Yeah, in retrospect, I really screwed over the queens.
Also, what would've happened if Jack would've killed a royal? Game over, he wipes the battlefield?
FTC: HONK.
Haha...That explains the green part below..I was wondering how Alegis knew so much.
<Alegis> welp, apparently not sending in orders last night wasnt too swell of me
<Alegis> anyways if you're a pawn you can with me
<Roman> I...Guess
<Alegis> else you lose when white king is dead
<Roman> uhh
<Roman> explain more
<Roman> because i'm not gonna betray the king without more info
<Alegis> Like I said before I convert pawns and spoit will allow me to take over orphaned pawns if they defect
<Alegis> else they lose with the white king
<Alegis> 'Also, if a faction loses their king, they instantly lose, however their players are not removed from the game.
<Alegis> '
<Roman> yeah
<Roman> obviously, you know that right now, there's two white pawns, the white king and you...
<Alegis> yeah
<Roman> you can only convert one of the pawns right?
<Alegis> any pawn. if king is dead and the pawns decide they want to defect spoit will allow it
<Alegis> or something, otherwise one would be dead by the vote day after
<Roman> yeah i suppose
<Roman> but the best we can do right now is tie the vote?
<Alegis> an attack on you was deflected to dragonnumbers, whose ability was that?
<Roman> what day?
<Alegis> actually I can die from the vote and white king will still lose. He said something confusing about me winning if the pawns defected even if I lost the vote
<Alegis> day 2 orso
<Alegis> when I killed dragonnumbers and you told the thread you deflected an attack and people shouldnt try it again
<Roman> ok looking back now
<Roman> lol what?
<Alegis> oh, night 1 even
<Roman> i don't understand this defecting
<Roman> do we PM spoit saying we're defecting?
<Roman> or is it assumed?
<Alegis> I told him Id lose the vote and he said
<Alegis> 'Basically, your power goes before the vote, and if you take out the king, the white team loses anyway. So if you kill the king, I'll allow the then orphaned pawns to win with you if you can convince them not to defect'
<Alegis> I assume with 'not to defect; he actually meant 'defect'
<Roman> yeah i guess so
<Alegis> the only way this is bad for you is if you're actually the king. I havent decided yet
<Roman> so i assume we just PM spoit with defecting
<Alegis> but if the vote is on one and the kill/convert on the other I have certainty
<Alegis> actually PMing wouldnt even be needed
<Alegis> vote is last day after so my convert comes before vote kill
<Alegis> so everyone would be converted before vote hits
<Alegis> or the vote hits a converted person and he still wins
<Roman> huh??
<Roman> vote is last yes
<Alegis> the only thing I'm not sure what happens is if I kill white king and lose to the vote
<Alegis> if then the defecting comes into play after white king is dead and game is over or everyone simply loses
<Roman> the trouble i'm having is that the vote could very well be tied
<Roman> and then you die
<Roman> and the white king dies
<Roman> and i'm boned
<Roman> (i don't trust that i can still win even if you die)
<Alegis> yeah game has to end before I'm dead, I guess that's what spoit's pm about 'defecting' was about
<Alegis> ill pm him, hopefullu hes onlione
<Roman> ask him what happens in that scenario
<Alegis> whose ability was the target deflecting thing on night 1?
<Roman> his own iirc
<Alegis> but it was on you!
<Roman> yeah?
<Roman> that's the queens power, sacrificial guard i think
<Alegis> automatic?
<Roman> what do you mean?
<Alegis> that you're the king after all
<Alegis> and the queen automatically hits it sacrificial guard
<Roman> i'm not the king?
<Alegis> I was wondering why my target on you earlier went to dragonnumbers instead, makes sense that its the sacrific. ability of the queen
<Roman> yes?
<Alegis> she chose to sacrifice herself for a pawn?
<Alegis> one she didnt even have contact with on day 1 likely
<Roman> the kings, queens and 2 pawns begin masoned together
<Roman> the king can promote one of those 2 pawns to any lost special
<Roman> i asked to be guarded because i get hit by kills day 1 ALOT
<Roman> i didn't realise it was sacrificial and i don't think dragon did either
<Roman> until it was after the fact
<Alegis> yeah the one thing that bugged me about all of this is going into the thread "ha! dont try that again!" or something
<Roman> yeah
<Roman> why would i say that
<Roman> unless i didn't want them to try again
<Roman> since we'd lost our guard
<Alegis> you started masoned with neotama?
<Alegis> who got upgraded to the lost special? you to queen?
<Roman> nope
<Roman> upgraded the other pawn
<Roman> since i was already 'made'
<Alegis> oh yeah there's two queens, and that explains the upgrade in narration
<Roman> yeah
<Roman> and this time we kept the guard on the king
<Alegis> you started the vote on antimatter because you werent sure he was a pawn
<Alegis> he's one of the peeps who came in knocking later I guess, you still werent sure about all the roles yesterday or something
<Roman> no i knew he was a pawn
<Roman> i wasn't sure he was white
<Roman> since lucedes could have been either
<Alegis> why do you think the vote will be a tie?
<Roman> well neo won't vote with us
<Roman> and antimatter might stick with him
<Alegis> asked him as well what happens if it's a tie
<Alegis> going to bed, ill try to wake up before deadline in case funny stuff is going on
<Alegis>
<Alegis> I suggest you PM spoit as well
<Roman> what?
<Roman> in 3 hours?
<Alegis> it's at 6 Am?
<Alegis> thought it was 9 AM my time
<Roman> nah
<Roman> 2 hours it closes
<Roman> pretty sure
<Roman> 2hors 12 mins
<Alegis> bleh. well I'm not that desperate I think. ill just go to bed and see what happens
<Roman> yeah
<Roman> lets just hope neo is inactive as he's been most of the game
<Alegis> if antimatter votes it should be alright
<Roman> yeah i'll try and convince him
<Roman> but i dunno
<Roman> i think they're SE++ buddies or something
<Alegis> oh
<Alegis> yeah that could be troublesome
<Alegis> but we'll see
<Roman> yeah
<Roman> at the very least
<Roman> a tie could be funny
<Roman> if everyone loses
<Alegis> good night
<Roman> night
Not that I could do much except broker for my life the night prior when roman tried to vote me out. but then I messed up not sending in orders to convert a pawn
I thought there was a mafia, which was why I called off the hit on the white king when Void had told me he knew who he was, instead opting to find the Midnight crew first :c
I was a bit surprised that the pawns died whether they guarded or not, assumed they died on guard when Spoit was talking about it.
This game does not deserve any farangus, only things that could be improved is Spoit learning you really should never outright lie in your clarifications no matter what that may result in
How could you lose
How could you lose :[
I was
cheering for you
You had victory in your grasp!