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Pokemon Thread IIXV: Pokemon Beyond The Moon (Page 1 NSF56K)

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  • Romanian My EscutcheonRomanian My Escutcheon Two of Forks Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Remind me, is there any argument against 6v6s beyond the amount of time required to set up teams?

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  • NerdgasmicNerdgasmic __BANNED USERS regular
    edited March 2011
    it's really bizarre that they took that out

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  • T4CTT4CT BAFTA-NOMINATED NAFTA-APPROVEDRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    just so we're clear i'm voting best of 3 3v3 and make people use the fucking wonder launcher because that looks radtacular

    garryyyyyyyyy i found you gary

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  • undeinPiratundeinPirat Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    wonder launcher

    that sounds fabulous

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  • unintentionalunintentional smelly Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    k I'm going to pop this sucker in the daycare, run around til it gets an egg, grab the egg, get the emboar back and come right back to tradesville

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  • DichotomyDichotomy Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    mostly I'm just thinking that 90% of 3v3 battles will end with one dude predicting wrong and not possessing a viable counter to one of the other guy's killy sweepers and bam the game is over before it begins

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  • T4CTT4CT BAFTA-NOMINATED NAFTA-APPROVEDRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    k I'll just grab a shit poke for when you're done collecting my emboar's sperm samples

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  • Romanian My EscutcheonRomanian My Escutcheon Two of Forks Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Remind me, is there any argument against 6v6s beyond the amount of time required to set up teams?

    I'm really curious about this.

    3v3s just don't seem like they would be as much fun.

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  • unintentionalunintentional smelly Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Dichotomy wrote: »
    mostly I'm just thinking that 90% of 3v3 battles will end with one dude predicting wrong and not possessing a viable counter to one of the other guy's killy sweepers and bam the game is over before it begins

    isn't 6v6 also usually decided by one or two pivotal decisions whose significance isn't immediately noticed

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  • DichotomyDichotomy Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    yeah but with six dudes you got a lot more wiggle room

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  • unintentionalunintentional smelly Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Dichotomy wrote: »
    yeah but with six dudes you got a lot more wiggle room

    what else can we do to add wiggle room other than the best-of-three set-up

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  • unintentionalunintentional smelly Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    like, I completely agree with you, and I am also trying to figure out what we can do to have the most fun with this

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  • DichotomyDichotomy Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    I dunno I'm still in "game over man, game over" mode

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  • IsoldaeIsoldae Hats Off To JigglypuffRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    As long as I don't have to grind and dudes to anything higher than 60 I would be ok with whatever we end up doing.

    No fucking way I would go to 100 though.

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  • InvisibleInkInvisibleInk Po,OrRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Best of 3 is a good idea, 3v3 is usually very quick so it shouldn't take any longer than a 6v6 battle

    Wonder Launcher? I don't know. Change is scary! Using items online? I just don't know

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  • unintentionalunintentional smelly Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    k T4CT get back in here

    you have one horny pig monster

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  • T4CTT4CT BAFTA-NOMINATED NAFTA-APPROVEDRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Dichotomy wrote: »
    I dunno I'm still in "game over man, game over" mode

    well let's get some test online battles in tonight so stuff can get figured out because you organized this so it's time to transition into "pick up your balls and make the best of the situation" mode

    e: but the way wonder launcher makes you buy items is neato burrito

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  • unintentionalunintentional smelly Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    T4CT wrote: »
    Dichotomy wrote: »
    I dunno I'm still in "game over man, game over" mode

    well let's get some test online battles in tonight so stuff can get figured out because you organized this so it's time to transition into "pick up your balls and make the best of the situation" mode

    But like

    I don't have a focus sash or a choice band or a life orb or a choice scarf or a lum berry or a...

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  • Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Think about the problem like this

    if you had only 1v1 pokemon matches, there would be almost no strategy whatsoever. Matches would essentially be decided before they even started, just based on which pokemon the players brought. If you brought a Slowbro and they brought a Blissey, they're gonna win. If you brought a Blissey and they brought a Machamp, they're gonna win. No two ways about it. There's no point in playing a 1v1 match, because excepting some bizarre fluke the outcome is decided at the outset.

    so, the closer you get to 1v1, the closer you get to a game that there's no point in playing

    3v3 is closer to 1v1 than 6v6 is.

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  • Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    the wonder launcher though is an idea I think is really cool and I'm curious to see if it makes battling more interesting, so I am 100% in favor of trying it out

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  • unintentionalunintentional smelly Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Think about the problem like this

    if you had only 1v1 pokemon matches, there would be almost no strategy whatsoever. Matches would essentially be decided before they even started, just based on which pokemon the players brought. If you brought a Slowbro and they brought a Blissey, they're gonna win. If you brought a Blissey and they brought a Machamp, they're gonna win. No two ways about it. There's no point in playing a 1v1 match, because excepting some bizarre fluke the outcome is decided at the outset.

    so, the closer you get to 1v1, the closer you get to a game that there's no point in playing

    3v3 is closer to 1v1 than 6v6 is.

    Totally agree. Where do you think (6C3 V 6C3) * 3 fits on the spectrum

    I have no idea, and I am hoping it's closer to 6v6 than 1v1

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  • IsoldaeIsoldae Hats Off To JigglypuffRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    If it is 6v6 was there a decided level that isn't completely retarded?

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  • Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Think about the problem like this

    if you had only 1v1 pokemon matches, there would be almost no strategy whatsoever. Matches would essentially be decided before they even started, just based on which pokemon the players brought. If you brought a Slowbro and they brought a Blissey, they're gonna win. If you brought a Blissey and they brought a Machamp, they're gonna win. No two ways about it. There's no point in playing a 1v1 match, because excepting some bizarre fluke the outcome is decided at the outset.

    so, the closer you get to 1v1, the closer you get to a game that there's no point in playing

    3v3 is closer to 1v1 than 6v6 is.

    Totally agree. Where do you think (6C3 V 6C3) * 3 fits on the spectrum

    I have no idea, and I am hoping it's closer to 6v6 than 1v1

    I definitely think it's the best solution suggested so far

    I don't think it's a very good solution

    but it's definitely the best

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  • unintentionalunintentional smelly Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Isoldae wrote: »
    If it is 6v6 was there a decided level that isn't completely retarded?

    no
    some things learn moves in the 70s and having to level everything up past 70 is completely retarded

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  • Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Maybe someone will discover an easily exploitable item dupe glitch

    then free rare candies for everyone!

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  • unintentionalunintentional smelly Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    that would be fantastic

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  • T4CTT4CT BAFTA-NOMINATED NAFTA-APPROVEDRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    well I mean 6C3 alone is 120 possible combos out of just whatever your 6 pokemon going in are

    multiply that times 3? 360 possible combos with only six pokemon is pretty damn good without getting into the math of possible pokemon choices per team

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  • IsoldaeIsoldae Hats Off To JigglypuffRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    That made me remember, I am at the 8th and I haven't seen a rare candy yet.

    What is up with that?

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited March 2011
    The changes to wifi are objectively bad. I am pissed that I bought this game, basically under false pretenses. I already had a game that I was having fun with on the single player and I'm going to get DA2 soon. I never would have bought this game if I had known I would only get to enjoy the single player mode of it.

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  • Romanian My EscutcheonRomanian My Escutcheon Two of Forks Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    I have to admit, I am really curious as to why Game Freak would do this, because there is very little logic behind this shift.

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  • DichotomyDichotomy Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    isn't the 3v3 flat battle how they do their tournaments?
    so

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  • undeinPiratundeinPirat Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Isoldae wrote: »
    That made me remember, I am at the 8th and I haven't seen a rare candy yet.

    What is up with that?

    i've been getting some from having the itemfinder on a lot and i saw that you could buy them at the battle subway (although it is 48 bp so fuuuuuck that)

    and im only at the amusement park place

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  • Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Isoldae wrote: »
    That made me remember, I am at the 8th and I haven't seen a rare candy yet.

    What is up with that?

    I'm only at the 5th and I have one

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  • unintentionalunintentional smelly Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    there was someone who just hands you three or four at one point

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  • Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Dichotomy wrote: »
    isn't the 3v3 flat battle how they do their tournaments?
    so

    I think official tournaments are 4v4 doubles matches

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  • T4CTT4CT BAFTA-NOMINATED NAFTA-APPROVEDRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    do people not understand what the word objective means or something

    look it's not like i'm not upset, I had a team of 6 pokemon planned and ready to go for this damn game

    and i bought it without doing any research as to how the online play worked

    but this game has been out for a while, people in north america have had it a while, and they certainly knew how the online worked. If any of us had bothered to look, we would've known this long ago.

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  • Romanian My EscutcheonRomanian My Escutcheon Two of Forks Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Dichotomy wrote: »
    isn't the 3v3 flat battle how they do their tournaments?
    so

    If that's the case, why not make that an option, along with the classic wi-fi settings and 6v6?

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  • DichotomyDichotomy Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    why are you asking me
    why would any rational being take away a ruleset that demands no additional resources and is beloved by the community

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  • unintentionalunintentional smelly Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    it's absolutely a step backward in functionality
    I still think we can have fun with this video game
    that is for fun having

    maybe it's not the fun we were expecting
    maybe we won't have AS MUCH fun as we thought we would, or for as long
    but it's still pokemon, the single player was already worth the price of admission in my opinion
    whatever blood we squeeze from this stone is a gain

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited March 2011
    T4CT wrote: »
    do people not understand what the word objective means or something

    It's objective. If you disagree with it being a bad thing you are either stupid or ignorant.

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