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Feminism [chat]

Dread Pirate ArbuthnotDread Pirate Arbuthnot Registered User regular
edited March 2011 in Debate and/or Discourse
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SUCK IT, MEN

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  • AriviaArivia Registered User
    edited March 2011
    Yessssssssss

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  • radroadkillradroadkill MDRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    girl power!

    rawr!

    something something!

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  • Captain CarrotCaptain Carrot P'burg, MTRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    I don't have anything to suck

    Spoiler:
  • wazillawazilla Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    I propose that the very act of sucking "it" would reinforce the patriarchy, once again holding the sucking of "it" in the highest regard.

  • NerdgasmicNerdgasmic __BANNED USERS regular
    edited March 2011
    I can't decide if this is better or worse than '80s chat

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  • Dread Pirate ArbuthnotDread Pirate Arbuthnot Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    I don't have anything to suck

    get out of here, man

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  • Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Cass, why would you do this thing?

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  • RiemannLivesRiemannLives Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Hey Cass, in keeping with the theme of the Chat I was wondering if there is much discussion of (or even awareness of) vaccinations among the kind of feminist circles you keep refering to.

    I ask because vaccinations have historicially (and should continue to be for some time) the single most important factor in improving the status of women worldwide. The future gains are mostly to be expected outside the 1st world of course but if someone wanted to pick one issue which would make the biggest difference for the most women I can't think of anything more effective (or realisticially possible and cost effective) than universal vaccinations.

    What you think "makes sense" has nothing to do with reality. It just has to do with your life experience. And your life experience may only be a small smidgen of reality. Possibly even a distorted account of reality at that. So what this means is that, beginning in the 20th century as our means of decoding nature became more and more powerful, we started realizing our common sense is no longer a tool to pass judgment on whether or not a scientific theory is correct. - Neil Degrasse Tyson
  • wazillawazilla Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Riemann talkin' 'bout cootie shots.

  • Dread Pirate ArbuthnotDread Pirate Arbuthnot Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Hey Cass, in keeping with the theme of the Chat I was wondering if there is much discussion of (or even awareness of) vaccinations among the kind of feminist circles you keep refering to.

    I ask because vaccinations have historicially (and should continue to be for some time) the single most important factor in improving the status of women worldwide. The future gains are mostly to be expected outside the 1st world of course but if someone wanted to pick one issue which would make the biggest difference for the most women I can't think of anything more effective (or realisticially possible and cost effective) than universal vaccinations.

    I haven't seen this discussion in the circles I inhabit but I'm sure it's out there.

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  • mrflippymrflippy Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    SUCK IT, MEN

    But you don't have a cock for me to suck, so how is this supposed to work?


    Also, wtf Microsoft? Windows 7 audio recorder only records in wma format and doesn't support wav anymore? O_o

  • Dread Pirate ArbuthnotDread Pirate Arbuthnot Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    WHAT I MENTION 'SUCK IT' AND YOU AUTOMATICALLY ASSUME THE 'IT' IS A PENIS

    ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THIS

    MALE DOMINATED

    PHALLOCENTRIC

    WOMEN OPPRESSING CULTURE

    GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY [CHAT]

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  • RiemannLivesRiemannLives Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Hey Cass, in keeping with the theme of the Chat I was wondering if there is much discussion of (or even awareness of) vaccinations among the kind of feminist circles you keep refering to.

    I ask because vaccinations have historicially (and should continue to be for some time) the single most important factor in improving the status of women worldwide. The future gains are mostly to be expected outside the 1st world of course but if someone wanted to pick one issue which would make the biggest difference for the most women I can't think of anything more effective (or realisticially possible and cost effective) than universal vaccinations.

    I haven't seen this discussion in the circles I inhabit but I'm sure it's out there.

    Ah, well I guess that teaspooning thing takes up an aweful lot of time and effort. Wouldn't want to stand in the way of the Glorious Work :)

    What you think "makes sense" has nothing to do with reality. It just has to do with your life experience. And your life experience may only be a small smidgen of reality. Possibly even a distorted account of reality at that. So what this means is that, beginning in the 20th century as our means of decoding nature became more and more powerful, we started realizing our common sense is no longer a tool to pass judgment on whether or not a scientific theory is correct. - Neil Degrasse Tyson
  • tyrannustyrannus Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    feminism is boring

    HAVE SOME TAX CHAT
    Al Pacino, who may be best known for the Godfather movies about the notorious Corleone mob family, is now finding he's up against a real foe... the Internal Revenue Service. Public documents show Pacino owes the IRS nearly $188,000.

  • Dread Pirate ArbuthnotDread Pirate Arbuthnot Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Hey Cass, in keeping with the theme of the Chat I was wondering if there is much discussion of (or even awareness of) vaccinations among the kind of feminist circles you keep refering to.

    I ask because vaccinations have historicially (and should continue to be for some time) the single most important factor in improving the status of women worldwide. The future gains are mostly to be expected outside the 1st world of course but if someone wanted to pick one issue which would make the biggest difference for the most women I can't think of anything more effective (or realisticially possible and cost effective) than universal vaccinations.

    I haven't seen this discussion in the circles I inhabit but I'm sure it's out there.

    Ah, well I guess that teaspooning thing takes up an aweful lot of time and effort. Wouldn't want to stand in the way of the Glorious Work :)

    punches inc

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  • mrflippymrflippy Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Honestly, I can't really help that my penis is so large that it creates its own cultural gravity well.

  • wazillawazilla Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    I at no point referred to a penis. Merely "it".

    Why do you automatically assume I was talking about a penis?

    Sexist.

  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    hey cass are you ready for me to train you on wednesday

  • The CatThe Cat Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited March 2011
    ahahahahhaa

    "I found it!"

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  • Dread Pirate ArbuthnotDread Pirate Arbuthnot Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Pony wrote: »
    hey cass are you ready for me to train you on wednesday

    i don't like this

    i sense a trap

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  • mrflippymrflippy Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    I heard that vaccinations are bad and will give me autism or mercury poisoning or something. Maybe we should stop vaccinating fish so we can eat sushi without fear of being poisoned.

  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Pony wrote: »
    hey cass are you ready for me to train you on wednesday

    i don't like this

    i sense a trap

    what's wrong

    don't you want me to educate and explain things to you, altering your perceptions and viewpoints of the world

  • AriviaArivia Registered User
    edited March 2011
    Riemann, I'd hazard a guess that educating women (especially female heads of households) would be as important if not more so.

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  • tyrannustyrannus Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Pony wrote: »
    hey cass are you ready for me to train you on wednesday

    i don't like this

    i sense a trap

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnZQNATOiU0

  • Dread Pirate ArbuthnotDread Pirate Arbuthnot Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Pony wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    hey cass are you ready for me to train you on wednesday

    i don't like this

    i sense a trap

    what's wrong

    don't you want me to educate and explain things to you, altering your perceptions and viewpoints of the world

    you're embarrassing me in front of my friends

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  • HappylilElfHappylilElf Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Cass, this blatant attempt at pandering to your former comrades will not earn you back their trust.

    It is too late. Embrace your new role amongst you newfound allies in the Great Patriarchal Conspiracy and make us a collective sandwich.

    It is the only way

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  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    cass likes to make fun of people sometimes when they are getting the voice out about social issues

    Koshian wrote: »
    actually NAFTA has been that bad for Mexico, so uh

    Well thank God someone put a poster up in impact font, that's going to fix everything.

  • AriviaArivia Registered User
    edited March 2011
    Pony wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    hey cass are you ready for me to train you on wednesday

    i don't like this

    i sense a trap

    what's wrong

    don't you want me to educate and explain things to you, altering your perceptions and viewpoints of the world

    Mansplain harder, please.

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  • Dread Pirate ArbuthnotDread Pirate Arbuthnot Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    NOO MY SHAME

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  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Arivia wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    hey cass are you ready for me to train you on wednesday

    i don't like this

    i sense a trap

    what's wrong

    don't you want me to educate and explain things to you, altering your perceptions and viewpoints of the world

    Mansplain harder, please.

    ok, will do, arivia

  • mrflippymrflippy Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Arivia wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    hey cass are you ready for me to train you on wednesday

    i don't like this

    i sense a trap

    what's wrong

    don't you want me to educate and explain things to you, altering your perceptions and viewpoints of the world

    Mansplain harder, please.

    It's better to mansplain smarter, not harder.

  • RiemannLivesRiemannLives Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Arivia wrote: »
    Riemann, I'd hazard a guess that educating women (especially female heads of households) would be as important if not more so.

    I would disagree, though of course both are important. First off because vaccinations are orders of magnitude cheaper and easier to provide in developing nations than ongoing education. But also they have shown to have some non-intuitive long term positive effects.

    Obviously they save lives by preventing disease. Also there are the secondary effects of preventing disease. Many of the people who survive diseases like polio, pertussus, measles as children still have long term physical and mental developmental problems because of them. Preventing those developmental problems makes for a big difference among all the surviving population.

    The bigger long term effect (and perhaps more relevant to this conversation) is that it has proven to be the case that (suprisingly quickly) the reduction in child mortality due to vaccinations leads to a substantial and voluntary reduction in the birth rate (without the need to apply any morally squicky means to force people to have fewer children). This is where the big gains in the status of women are to be had. Less emphasis on women as a baby-making automatons, more women in the workforce, the physical time and ability to even contemplate higher education etc...

    What you think "makes sense" has nothing to do with reality. It just has to do with your life experience. And your life experience may only be a small smidgen of reality. Possibly even a distorted account of reality at that. So what this means is that, beginning in the 20th century as our means of decoding nature became more and more powerful, we started realizing our common sense is no longer a tool to pass judgment on whether or not a scientific theory is correct. - Neil Degrasse Tyson
  • tyrannustyrannus Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    i always thought mansplaining was just explaining something to someone else that you have absolutely no idea about, and being completely cocksure about it

  • wazillawazilla Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    tyrannus wrote: »
    i always thought mansplaining was just explaining something to someone else that you have absolutely no idea about, and being completely cocksure about it

    Apparently what mansplaining actually specifically refers to is when a woman is talking to two men, and one of the guys has to translate what the woman is saying into man speak for the other to understand.

    I think that's according to Pony, if I'm not mistaken.

  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    tyrannus wrote: »
    i always thought mansplaining was just explaining something to someone else that you have absolutely no idea about, and being completely cocksure about it

    nope, that wasn't what the original coining of the term was about

    mansplaining, as a term, came about to describe the phenomenon where someone will listen to the same explanation more readily from a man vs. a woman

    like, a woman tries to explain something to you, and you're like "pfft, i don't think so", but a man does it and you are like "oh, ok, i understand"

    that's mansplaining.

    it's a cultural/gender bias.

    however like all feminist jargon it's become so detached from anything meaningful and is now just a way to dismiss anything a man says at any time, especially if it is to a woman.

  • wazillawazilla Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    OK, so I was kind of wrong. Yay Pony!

  • Niceguy MyeyeNiceguy Myeye Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    That makes so much more sense when Pony types it.

  • NerdgasmicNerdgasmic __BANNED USERS regular
    edited March 2011
    my life would be meaningless and without direction if I didn't have Pony

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  • AriviaArivia Registered User
    edited March 2011
    Like all feminist jargon. Sheez.

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  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Arivia wrote: »
    Like all feminist jargon. Sheez.

    I'm sorry give me a piece of feminist jargon that isn't over-used and detached from it's original meaning due to usage deviation and shit.

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